my 69 z28 survivor,
 

Hey guys, testing to see if my pic works here... I took out my 69 z last night for a photo at the local gm dealer with the new camaros. My car is a mostly original paint (80%) all matching numbers early 69 with a flat hood. Hope the pics work!

matt

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<span style="font-size: 23pt">MOAR PLEAZ</span>

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Don't tease this crowd like that...

Whats the vin? And please post photos of the deck lid stripe!

Welcome to the forum!

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here is a photo of the back of it, this is when i got the car. Someone had stolen the z28 emblem off the rear. The car had been sitting since the 70's in a shed that looked like you could push it over.

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another of when i bought the car..

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last one i have, as of now. If you notice, someone back in the day had painted the underside of the car white, which probably saved the car as is it super clean with no rust anywhere on the floors, rockers, etc. The front fenders were soft on the bottoms, and one rear quarter has a little soft spot also.

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NICE! No spoilers, Endura, RG/white top. Very cool.

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AWESOME!

Original motor? trans? rear? Whats the vin?

Dan

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WOW... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif[/img] I am diddin' that flat hood..but I thought all 69 Z's came with a cowl hood.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]
So what is the build date ?
You may have opened up a can of worms here too....Now it is required that we see under hood pics... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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Vin is 124379l525407, original vin stamped motor and trans. Original rear also. Its a Los car, no x codes here ! luckily the car had original paint, motor and trans and rear

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Nice!! I love the green and white color combo...

Rich

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Nice!!More pics when you get a chance.

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That is AWESOME! RG Endura, No spoilers, Style trim, nice combo!

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Thanks for posting pics - love that color combo!!

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Very nice combination !!!

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NICE! I love it! How it never got a spoiler or cowl hood in the first 20-25 years of it's life surprises the crap outta me!!

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Have you checked on the gas tank for a build sheet yet?

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I've got the build sheet, but its hard to read, pretty much can see the radiator code

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m22mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WOW... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif[/img] I am diddin' that flat hood..but I thought all 69 Z's came with a cowl hood.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]
So what is the build date ?
You may have opened up a can of worms here too....Now it is required that we see under hood pics... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] </div></div>Nope, most came with a flat hood Mike. Very nice original car!

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I think Mikey is trying to be funny Sammy!

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I think Mikey is trying to be funny Sammy! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif[/img]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m22mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WOW... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/drool.gif[/img] I am diddin' that flat hood..but I thought all 69 Z's came with a cowl hood.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]
So what is the build date ?
You may have opened up a can of worms here too....Now it is required that we see under hood pics... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] </div></div>Nope, most came with a flat hood Mike. Very nice original car! </div></div>

Thanks Sam, did not realize that.. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img]

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I think there were only so many hoods to go around and the Pace Cars and COPO's got them first I believe.

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Only 11% of all 1969 Z-28s got the ZL-2 hood. So do the math? On the cars you see today! Benny [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think there were only so many hoods to go around and the Pace Cars and COPO's got them first I believe. </div></div>Not a question of how many ZL2 hoods were available to go around. That number depended on how many orders GM received for the cowl hoods.

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I really like the colors with the vinyl roof, and no spoilers,
very nice looking Z28.

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thanks guys for all your comments!

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is that a trailer hitch on the rear? cool color combo. love the flat hood

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Yep! thats my &quot;day 2&quot; hitch haha. i need to get it back on the car. i had to remove it to drop the tank and get it cleaned.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bbbenny</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Only 11% of all 1969 Z-28s got the ZL-2 hood. So do the math? On the cars you see today! Benny [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img] </div></div>

where can you find a percentage like that?

I understand there were only production totals of all OPTIONS, not combinations of options ...

ie :

10,026 ZL2 hoods for the 1969 model year

subtract 3,675 for all the Z11 pace cars

then subtract whatever number for Z10 pace cars

then subtract whatever number of COPO cars, L72, ZL1, as all of those got the hood

that leaves the number of SS &amp; Z28 Camaros that <span style="font-weight: bold">could</span> have opted for the hood option

1969
SS production: 34,932
Z28 production 20,302

I am not aware of any EXACT number or percentage of Z28's built with ZL-2 hoods (or any other combos), any numbers would only be a WAG based off percentage of the RPO's

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Is the illegibility of the build sheet due to staining or fading?
Staining whether from tar or oil can be removed. Fading is a bit more of an issue?

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Great Find! Can you tell us any history on the car? More Pictures please.

Mike

Any updates or recent pics on this car ? really cool car !!!

Options included with others are not counted. For example Chevrolet lists 116 cars built with CE1 Headlamp Washers. Standard equipment on RS; the 37, 773 Rally-Sports built with them aren't counted and CE1 is not listed on docs.

The ZL2 hood was included with COPOs 9560 & 9561 and is never listed on docs for those cars. Not included in the ZL2 total of 10,026.

Production totals indicate there were 997 L72 COPO Camaros.

I'd still love to see some more pictures of your Rally Green car? :cool2:

So was the ZL2 hood included with the pace cars, or was it listed separately on the window sticker. That's 3000 or so hoods. I'm assuming that they are included in the 10,026 total?