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Next Years Power Tour Car
Every story has a beginning, a middle, and an end........I had hoped to start this build in the middle......Let me explain, LOL.......
After driving the 66 Nova on last years Power Tour, it became apparent that the Nova's trunk space and the "Princess's" idea of what is needed to travel for a week did not match.........so......we needed a larger trunk for future travel.......And.....after driving the street rod with the LS drivetrain, it became clear that we needed a big trunk and a LS engine to pull it around...... Finding the engine was the easy part, I ended up buying a low mile LS2 drivetrain out of a 2006 GTO (just like the 37 Ford)....."And"........I wanted to purchase the best survivor 66 Impala Convert I could find.......I basically wanted a car that would be a Rust Free original panel and paint car so I could do the drivetrain/ suspension thing and not mess with going thru the whole car frustration and expense thingy..... So......The search began, after going thru a bunch of car sites I found a car that got my interest right away.....The car was located on Long Island New York and I contacted a member here to see if they could take a look at it for me........No problem I was told.....so ....I continued looking and found a couple more that were looked at by members here and took passes on them as they weren't what I was looking for........ As I said earlier, I wanted to start this build in the middle part of the story with a perfect car (or pretty close).........After a month of waiting on the member to look at the New York car, I kept thinking that was the car for me as the pictures and description seemed to be exactly what I wanted.........I called the owner and he assured me the car was "Perfect" as described......"NOW....This is not a Whiney Woe is me situation"......."I JUST WANT OTHERS NOT TO MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AS I DID IN THE FUTURE" .......Again.......Do not "EVER" buy a car without someone looking at it.......... So.....here's where it starts.........Here's the ad and pic's http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC02983.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...hev51200-1.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...hev51200-2.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...hev51200-4.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...hev51200-7.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...hev51200-8.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...hev51200-6.jpg Looks good in the pic's and described as just what I am looking for............I called the owner and asked for a honest assessment as to the condition of the car and was assured it was about as perfect as they get..............I decided to roll the dice after missing out on another car the day before........Doesn't look too bad in the pic's and with the owners assurance about the condition......"I was Hooked"..............LOL.......The seller was upset with me because I didn't have it shipped in an enclosed trailer......In reality, I wire transferred the money on Friday afternoon, contracted with a transport company on Monday morning, the car was picked up Monday afternoon and delivered to my house (900miles) on Tuesday afternoon at 5pm........Everything is going so smooth I can't believe it.........LOL Here is the car arriving............Look'in Good!!.....LOL http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC05800.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC05801.jpg Uh Oh!!......Whats this.......... http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC05798.jpg |
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http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC05806.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC05807.jpg Humm!! The Excitement is going away fast.......... http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC05805.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC05821.jpg Seam missing in the 1/4 panel/trunk....... http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC05809.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC05818.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC05817.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC05820.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC05816.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC02980.jpg |
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If there is anything that is good.......It seems the floor pans are in very good shape as they seemed to have been undercoated since day one.....
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So.......It is what it is and I'm stuck with it.......So....Now that that's over with....I took it over to Puleras Collision Center in Kenosha (They painted the Biscayne and the 37 Ford Street Rod) and we have it scheduled to go in at the end of August to get everything corrected .....I'll get the car media blasted before going there so it will end up as nice as the Biscayne.......I ordered a Holley Oil pan for the LS swap, got a NOS right front fender, got a radio,.....so I'll get the LS drivetrain fit and installed before Body and Paint...Then we will order an Interior Kit, suspension kit, brake kit,A/C kit and wheels and tires .......Almost done.....LOL
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So sorry you got stuck with that. It sounds like you ran into the typical non-car guy who has a "classic" and has no clue what a "mint excellent condition" car should actually look like.
Reminds me how my Grandfather repaired the front valance on my Grandmother's 75 Firebird back in the late 1970's after she ran into some paint cans in the garage. He was the consumate do-it-yourselfer and darn proud of it. He filled the cracks in the front valance with PlasticWood, that stuff you fill nail holes in plywood with, and then painted the repair with semi-gloss, exterior latex paint. (probably out of one of the very cans my Grandmother ran over!) [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img] God bless 'em. I do miss them both! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/t...lasticwood.jpg |
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Ken,
I know my opinion wasn't requested, but having been thru a very similar situation 11 yrs ago (except that I <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">PAID</span></span> an alleged professional inspector to look at the car before I forked over the $$$ [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] ) I can tell you your best bet is to cut your losses and peddle it <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-style: italic">now</span></span>, before you get to 'the point of no return' [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img] |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">....."NOW....This is not a Whiney Woe is me situation"......."I JUST WANT OTHERS NOT TO MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AS I DID IN THE FUTURE" .......Again.......<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="color: #FF0000">Do not "EVER" buy a car without someone looking at it</span></span></span>..........
</div></div> X eleventy-billion (emphasis added). That said...go ahead and whine...I sure as hell did. Sorry you got hosed on this deal Ken. That sucks. BTW, get that back seat out and check for rust in the rear floors and convertible top well area. A family member had a `66 Imp droptop and it was gonzo under the seat, but the rest of the floors looked good. |
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That just sucks Ken. I got boned in the very same manner a couple of years ago on a Corvette.
At least when you are done, you will know what you have and a great car with ROOOOOOMMMMM! The very same reason I bought my 59. Let me know if there is anything I may be able to do for you. I've got a couple of friends that fool with those cars. Tim |
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Now, Nothing to do but to Get-R-Done! This car will be as nice as the rest of your Fleet by next Summer!
We will all once again be eating a lot of pop corn over the winter! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img] Dan |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Pritchard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ken,
I know my opinion wasn't requested, but having been thru a very similar situation 11 yrs ago (except that I <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-weight: bold">PAID</span></span> an alleged professional inspector to look at the car before I forked over the $$$ [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] ) I can tell you your best bet is to cut your losses and peddle it <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-style: italic">now</span></span>, before you get to 'the point of no return' [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img] </div></div> Bill......If I tried to get rid of it now, I would lose about 1/2 of what I paid.....So.....With that said.....I'll just put that much back into it(It's gone anyway) and get what I thought I was getting (and paid for) when I bought it..... It's Funny now (I think), but when the car arrived I called the seller and asked him what the hell was going on with this piece of crap that he worshipped.......He said he was "Shocked" that I was disappointed with his baby...And it pained him to sell it.... So.....I said to him "I'll tell you what"......I'll pay to have it shipped back to you and you keep $1000 and return the rest......So, Basically I'm giving you a $1000 for nothing......He hung up on me.....Imagine that....Such a Deal!! |
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I like your attitude Ken. Admit your mistake and move on. Or FIDO. (F___ it, drive on.) Pay up and make it your own and next summer when you're on Power Tour and the LS is humming and the AC is blowing cold you'll have a laugh over it all.
Oh, and the P.O. hung up on you because he knew he made out like a bandit. He'll get his someday. Bad karma goes around and then comes around. |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427TJ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like your attitude Ken. Admit your mistake and move on. Or FIDO. (F___ it, drive on.) Pay up and make it your own and next summer when you're on Power Tour and the LS is humming and the AC is blowing cold you'll have a laugh over it all.
Oh, and the P.O. hung up on you because he knew he made out like a bandit. He'll get his someday. Bad karma goes around and then comes around. </div></div> Exactly! Sorry Ken...that it wasn't what you had hoped for... That guy will get his one day.... That being said, it will be fun to watch the build...let me know if you need parts...there seems to be quote a few aprts around this area [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] |
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For those of you who have never met Ken, or seen any of his cars, let me tell you something. One year from today you'll swear he replaced THIS car with another similar one. It will be flawless, in spite of what you see today.
Ken called me Thursday evening and told me the story. Knowing Ken and how HE treats EVERYONE else, this makes you sick that HE gets this kind of deal. By the end of our conversation he was laughing, saying, "I bought a brand new convertible top and they threw in a car." Can you believe it? You're one helluva man Ken. I'm blessed to call you my friend and look forward to following another of your fantastic builds. Get busy Buddy. See ya in Monmouth. |
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Ken, if you ever find another one in New Jersey, I'd be happy to check it out for you. That car you got looks like it was a typical Long Island car - never a good thing due to the salt air.
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Ha, Love it [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif[/img]
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looks good from here LOL http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...s/DSC05800.png
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Lets see it with the 6 inch lift with the 30's under it like Puff Daddy X would have it in Miami
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: IM RARE</div><div class="ubbcode-body">looks good from here LOL http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j7...s/DSC05800.png </div></div>
Dave.......You are pretty close........But....You already knew that.....LOL |
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Here's another pic of the optional Long Island Scotch Tape mirror adjustment feature......LOL
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Early cars got black tape...it's these kinda details that really make this site worth while.
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That sucks!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes, it does Rob! Esp. when it happens to nice people!
Sorry to hear this Ken! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img] Sounds like you have a great attitude though and I look forward to seeing it done [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img] <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> After driving the 66 Nova on last years Power Tour, it became apparent that the Nova's trunk space and the "Princess's" idea of what is needed to travel for a week did not match.... </div></div> LOL! Bill and I never agree on this either! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif[/img] All he needs is a duffle bag...I need a duffle bag just for my shoes! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img] Looking forward to seeing you and your Princess in Detroit next year! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here's another pic of the optional Long Island Scotch Tape mirror adjustment feature......LOL
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC02984.jpg </div></div> Actually, that's a blessing in disguise:. That is actual evidence of his misrepresentation. I guarantee that the felonious seller's fingerprints are all over that tape. Remember how you asked him what condition the rear view mirror was in and he said it was in mint, original, excellent, untouched condition? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: njsteve</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here's another pic of the optional Long Island Scotch Tape mirror adjustment feature......LOL
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC02984.jpg </div></div> Actually, that's a blessing in disguise:. That is actual evidence of his misrepresentation. I guarantee that the felonious seller's fingerprints are all over that tape. Remember how you asked him what condition the rear view mirror was in and he said it was in mint, original, excellent, untouched condition? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] </div></div> Steve.....I wish it was that easy.....I was sort of hoping when I went to the DMV there would have been a legal issue with the New York registration.....LOL....Darn!! |
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Sorry to see this Ken, but I'm positive you'll whip it into shape and I'll enjoy watching your progress.
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Ken,
I just came across a couple of LS3's with less than 100 miles (Camaro takeouts). Let me know if you are interested. Tim |
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Sorry to hear about this Ken. Friends of mine have bought some cars on Long Island and most of them have had the same type of issues as your car. My friend in CT who sends them over here says to stay away from there, but I guess there are some nice cars there to.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: napa68</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ken,
I just came across a couple of LS3's with less than 100 miles (Camaro takeouts). Let me know if you are interested. Tim </div></div> Tim.......I already have one.....I already sent the harness and Computers to Speartech for mod's...... http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC02995.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC02994.jpg Computer and Oxygen Sensor Guy........... |
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Ken.....I really think you need to send Guido and the boys to pay this schmuck a little visit!!! He'll never get to the bank without his knee caps [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] I too look forward to watching this build....you are such a craftsman and this car, like all of your other ones, will be perfect in the end!!! Good luck with the project my friend!
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One of the major issues in installing a LS engine in a 66 "B" body is the oil pan, the 66 has the steering behind the crossmember and causes some major pan modifications to a stock factory rear sump pan.....The GTO pan is a front sump so it needed to be changed anyway.....So....Holley just came out with a pan that is supposed to make everything fit so I went ahead and ordered one and it showed up today.....Christmas in July...
I'll get it put on in a day or two and should be test fitting the engine into the Impala next week...Here we go!! http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC02994.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC02996.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC02997.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC02998.jpg |
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The exhaust manifolds are another issue....so...I was reading that the 2010-11 Camaro manifolds would fit with lots of clearance.......They showed up also......Lot's "O" Stuff showing up.......
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----Ken,,,That pan is sweet. Nice piece!!!.......Bill S
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Don't trip on that stuff going down the stairs. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC05806.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC05807.jpg Humm!! The Excitement is going away fast.......... </div></div> this is disturbing... was this car beaten with a chain? sorry I was not the one to stop this sale. Is this car solid above the rear? Both my big cars, one a vert, were both soft in the floors there. |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: x Baldwin Motion</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC05806.jpg http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...t/DSC05807.jpg Humm!! The Excitement is going away fast.......... </div></div> this is disturbing... was this car beaten with a chain? sorry I was not the one to stop this sale. Is this car solid above the rear? Both my big cars, one a vert, were both soft in the floors there. </div></div> Floors are rock solid.......So, it's not all bad..... |
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Ken...may the force be with you... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
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Took the pan down to the shop today and switched the pan and hardware..........The only problem was that the bracket that holds the pick-up tube in place was not formed correctly and there were some clearance issues with the windage tray......the instructions shown how to modify the windage tray to suit.....but.....it would have been easier for Holley to do their job correctly and just form the bracket with a tighter radius so it would clear.....anyhow we cut and welded the bracket to suit........much easier.....just a minor glitch....after that it was a 5 minute job.....I also picked up a NOS "Made In America" original GM fender.....I almost don't want to put it on the car it's so nice.....Thanks to Jon Krogh
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I also picked up a NOS "Made In America" original GM fender...Thanks to Jon Krogh
</div></div> Jon is certainly a great resource to have when working on a late 60's full size Chevy....and he's a hop, skip, & a jump away from you! |
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