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Old pics - 1969 Z/28
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Looks like it has already had a black grill installed.
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Yeah, I thought it looked better that way! I was 16, what did I know. Even worse, I rebuilt the motor and painted the block BLUE. All of my HS buddy's thought I dropped in a Ford motor because of the color and because of the lack of knowledge of the Chev 302 (even with the 302 call out on the hood).
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Awesome, love that car!
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It had the basic interior, console, working flapper in the hood and a long spoiler. It had a really low vin, somewhere in the 4,000's so I think originally it may have been a flat hood, no spoiler car with those parts added later. If so, it was done well. Pioneer Super tuner under the dash. You can see me smiling in one of the pictures. I see For Sale signs in one of the pictures so I think this was the day I brought it home.
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Are those Firestone Parnelli Jones's on the back rims?
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Steve, I believe they are. This is Norwalk CT by the way - we may have crossed paths at a cruise.
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There's a finite number of people in the universe and eventualy we all start crossing paths again and again. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]
Back in the early 80's I used to go to the cruise nights at Marcus Dairy and the Sycamore drive-in restaurant in south west CT. Back then I had various Cuda ragtops but back in my high school daze (late 70's) I had a 69 Z11 pace car and a 70 Superbird. |
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Very cool vintage pics!
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My vin was 124379N504656
Steve, been to Marcus many times as well as the Danbury Fair Races (I was friends with Don LaJoies son) but in the late '70's we usually stayed around Norwalk, Calf Pasture Beach, and Westport, Compo Beach. Calf Pasture was just like the movie Happy Days on Saturday nights. The Rt.7 extension just happened to have a nice 1/4 mile straight also. |
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Other late '70's fun.
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wouldnt have a silver z-28 gotten a black grille anyway?
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I was wondering that myself but haven't hit the books yet. I think only if it had the RS option but I'm no expert.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TMagda</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Other late '70's fun. </div></div>
wheelies and smokey burnouts [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TMagda</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Circa 1975 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbt...e=1969z28c.jpg </div></div>
I know I am going to hate the response but I'll ask it anyways - what were you asking for it at the time? |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hylton</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I know I am going to hate the response but I'll ask it anyways - what were you asking for it at the time? </div></div> He just bought it, wasn't for sale. |
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I'm fairly sure I paid $1,600 for it and got $1,800 when I sold it a few years later. Shrewd.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: x77-69z28</div><div class="ubbcode-body">wouldnt have a silver z-28 gotten a black grille anyway? </div></div>
No they didn't, they were silver as all others except black cars who got the black grille. GM made a mistake on the grille color and a lot of people changed them to black, looks a thousand times better. BTW, nice color on that Z. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cool.gif[/img] Jan |
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ummmm... here is a GM Photographic black and white Press Release photo of the early 69 Z28 ...
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26.../69camaroz.jpg note the color of the front grille . . . also note the narrow, early rear spoiler and lack of the ZL2 cowl induction hood. This same picture was airbrushed later to include the cowl hood . . . these "before and after" pictures were used in the 69 Camaro sales brochure too, and the "changes" were included in the many Revisions of the brochure: Cover: http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/che...m/bilder/1.jpg Z28 picture / section in the brochure (before the Cowl hood was added): http://www.lov2xlr8.no/brochures/che...m/bilder/6.jpg Z28 picture AFTER the cowl hood was added, plus after the rear stripes were changed (courtesy of CRG site: http://www.camaro-untoldsecrets.com/articles/1969.htm): http://www.camaro-untoldsecrets.com/...if/1969_h3.gif |
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Don't use any photo in Chevy sales info as an example of how cars were built in production. The 300/350 engine photo shows finned rocker covers.
All standard '69s in black had a silver [argent] grille, even SS. All standard Z/28s had a silver grille. All non-black RS had a black grille regardless of model. The very few factory black '69 RS had a silver grille. |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: William</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't use any photo in Chevy sales info as an example of how cars were built in production. The 300/350 engine photo shows finned rocker covers.
All standard '69s in black had a silver [argent] grille, even SS. All standard Z/28s had a silver grille. All non-black RS had a black grille regardless of model. The very few factory black '69 RS had a silver grille. </div></div> I didn't say one way or another on the Z28 but the SS cars came with the BLACK grille. I am unaware of an engine picture in the 69 Camaro sales brochure: Here is the early version of the brochure: http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA...e/dirindex.html |
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I didn't say one way or another on the Z28 but the SS cars came with the BLACK grille.</div></div> Not a black SS. Back in late '68 SS & DI magazine did an editorial on the trouble they had with Chevy in trying to order a black stripe delete L78 Camaro SS. They finally got the car with white D90 stripes. Plenty of photos; has a silver grille just as Chevy sales info said it would. Motion used it in their ads. Later on they removed the stripe; photos of it both ways are common. Strange car-L78 auto, power windows, VE3 bumper, black vinyl roof. Stolen later in '69, never recovered. The L48 engine photo is in the showroom album. |
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just some more to add to the fire.
this was my mothers ex-boyfriends car back in 78-79. i was just a kid then. i rescued these photos from her collection for posterity sake. notice this car has silver grille, D-80 , non ZL2 car. this car was unrestored at this time. (as were most i reckon.) i think its a shame that almost every Z nowadays is restored with all the bells and whistles. when fact is...most 69 Z cars did not have a ZL2 hood or spoilers. http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...scan0001-3.jpg http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...scan0002-1.jpg http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...scan0004-4.jpg |
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These pictures made my night. I'll add to the batch. Photos of my dad's second '69 in 1980-82. Lots of family history in these photos...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...P1010005-7.jpg My late grandfather with my older sister. Amazing to see him so healthy... My strapping, young, non-bald father... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...p1010004-5.jpg Motor shots after a $5,000 rebuild http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...p1010003-9.jpg |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: William</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I didn't say one way or another on the Z28 but the SS cars came with the BLACK grille.</div></div> Not a black SS. Back in late '68 SS & DI magazine did an editorial on the trouble they had with Chevy in trying to order a black stripe delete L78 Camaro SS. They finally got the car with white D90 stripes. Plenty of photos; has a silver grille just as Chevy sales info said it would. Motion used it in their ads. Later on they removed the stripe; photos of it both ways are common. Strange car-L78 auto, power windows, VE3 bumper, black vinyl roof. Stolen later in '69, never recovered. The L48 engine photo is in the showroom album. </div></div> you just repeated the info above, silver grills for black cars, the SS 69 Camaros that were not black came with black grills ... |
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Repeated because you didn't understand it based on this comment:
...but the SS cars came with the BLACK grille. How about this: ALL factory black 1969 Camaros had a silver grille. |
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man who run those ign wires?
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I quote Jerry MacNeish on this matter.
"All factory built non-rally sport Z/28s and 427 COPOs received an Argent Silver grille with matching headlight housings. Rally Sport Z/28s were equipped with a black grille. A black Z/28 rally sport would receive a silver grille. Only SS models without the rally sport package received a factory installed black grille" Since this thread is about X77 cars it would be a sliver grille. Jan |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 396/425blr</div><div class="ubbcode-body">man who run those ign wires? </div></div>
A $5000.00 early 1980's rebuild ? |
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I'll post the receipt later for all you nonbelievers...
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OK, since we're posting vintage pics of 69 Z28's, I dug out some old pictures of mine and scanned them. Brief history: bought in January of 73 with a dented up lf fender, no hood or grille, no engine or trans, no wheels or tires. Frost green, green deluxe interior, green vinyl top. Paid a whopping <span style="font-weight: bold">$300 </span>for it. Rebuilt the LT1 out of my daily driver 70.5 Z28 to go in it, and bought an M22 from a 71 or 72 Corvette to go behind the LT1. Swapped the factory 4.10 gear for a 4.88 and eventually ran a best time of 11.98.
Pics as purchased: http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...9Z28/69Z_1.jpg http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...9Z28/69Z_2.jpg Engine built, readying it for installation with a bunch of my friends (and my bride-to-be at the far right) in attendance - http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...9Z28/69Z_3.jpg One of the first outings, at Byron IL dragstrip, fall of 1973 - http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...8/69ZByron.jpg http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...9Z28/gated.jpg Some time in 1974, ready to head to the body shop to get a whole lot more body work than my friend the bodyman and I had planned on, followed by paint to make it all purty. Another friend's 68 L89 Camaro hiding in the weeds behind it - http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...9Z28/69Z_4.jpg http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...9Z28/69Z_5.jpg All done, in 1975... http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...9Z28/69Z_6.jpg http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...9Z28/69Z_7.jpg http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...9Z28/69Z_8.jpg continued... |
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Who needs the extra weight of door sill plates [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smirk.gif[/img]
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...9Z28/69Z_9.jpg And for that matter, who needs a heater or wipers? Red Dymo Labelmaker tape on heater blockoff plate listed valve lash settings for the '140' Z28 off-road cam. http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...Z28/69Z_10.jpg |
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From CRG
1969 Camaro Grille Color Grille Color Model non-RS | RS ------------ ---------------- SS black* | black* Z28 silver | black* All else** silver | black* -------------------------------- * except Tuxedo Black exterior, which always received a silver grille. ** incl COPO 1969 Grille Part Numbers * Color Model black silver ------ -------- -------- Non-RS 3957062 3957044 RS 3938641 3949759 ------------------------- *1969 P&A30 Chassis Manual |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bill Pritchard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OK, since we're posting vintage pics of 69 Z28's, I dug out some old pictures of mine and scanned them. </div></div>
bravo! i love this thread. nothin better then seeing these cars as they were back then. again... another 69 Z with no spoiler. i see more pics of original Z's back then without spoilers. now every Z on the planet has a spoiler. |
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Bill, fantastic photos! Thanks for sharing!
The work as indicated... Does anyone remember this place? Super Cars? My Dad has fantastic stories from it... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...P1010001-9.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...P1010002-8.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...1010003-10.jpg |
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-----Bill,,,To your knowledge did this Z have its original springs when you took these pics. Am trying to make a point to myself.......Bill S |
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Love the old pictures!!!
Another thing I would like to add to this is that these 69 Z's were few and far between with the cowl hoods. Flat hoods were found on a very large # of these cars. But now almost every Z you see has a cowl hood. One of the first comments that MacNeish said when going over my car was wow you still have the flat hood... http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n.../wacZ28001.jpg |
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It looks like that car had the factory stereo kick panel speakers ... and they are gone too, too much weight ... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i1...9Z28/69Z_9.jpg |
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Hey, nobody would ever find the keys hanging on the wiper switch.......
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Hey Bill - those are some great pix and stories! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif[/img] |
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