Gobi Yenko Deuce finds its way to EBaY
 

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1970 Yenko Deuce for sale on EBaY - Gobi Beige, 4 speed, p/s, sold from Mancuso in IL. The ad says 4k miles, but it's probably 104k. Car looks pretty solid, would make a nice project for someone - Alan Cardo???????

Nice pics, especially the vintage ones with the whitewall tires! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

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Marlin - do you have iny info on the car? Drive train orig ??

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Marlin, was this car previously known?

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It was known, but kinda forgotten about. My self included I guess.

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What would be a reasonable price for a car like this to sell for in today's market? What are the fully restored and documented cars going for these days? Are there any cars available on the market?

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Wow!

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Nice docs. Could be a nice project. Did DC tell me he checked out Deuces at Mancuso?

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That old crow Cumby wrote (actually using snail mail) Rick Mancuso inquiring about Deuces way back in 1970. He &quot;settled&quot; on a new LS6 from Fred Gibb! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: enio45</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Marlin - do you have iny info on the car? Drive train orig ?? </div></div>

I don't have much on this one - it was kept quiet, and when we did confirm the car awhile back it just wanted to stay quiet. We don't bug folks who wish to be left alone, so we left it be. I was excited to hear that a Deuce was on EBaY though, great pics, great doc's, really - a great project! Oh, awesome color too, [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

Today's value? That could be tough, I've seen cars sell that were resto'd but needed to be redone sell in the $90k+ range recently. So, I'd use that as a starting point. Comparably, I'd say that the going rate for a well done car is up in the $180k range somewhere, so back off $60-80k for a resto and that puts you at around the same number. So, I'd throw it out there as a $80-$100k value. Its very hard though, Deuces don't sell nearly as often as the Camaros, so we don't have a lot of comparables.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY</div><div class="ubbcode-body">http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet...5fCarsQ5fTrucks

1970 Yenko Deuce for sale on EBaY - Gobi Beige, 4 speed, p/s, sold from Mancuso in IL. The ad says 4k miles, but it's probably 104k. Car looks pretty solid, would make a nice project for someone - Alan Cardo???????

Nice pics, especially the vintage ones with the whitewall tires! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] </div></div>

Oh man, this is killin' me! I'd even take a Gobi Beige one. Probably would need to sell my '69 Vette, '70 Nova, and get into the home equity line of credit to touch it. Sigh.

But it'd be cool to have a twin of Marlin's car.


Allen

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Anyone know anything about the drive train - born with ?

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Allen</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Oh man, this is killin' me! I'd even take a Gobi Beige one........... <span style="font-weight: bold">it'd be cool to have a twin of Marlin's car. </span>

Allen </div></div>

Ain't nuthin wrong with Gobi!!!! Plus, the car's in Elgin; right close to Barnhart.

DAMN GUYS; <span style="text-decoration: underline"><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">it's a 4 speed car!!!!!!!! DO IT!!!!!!!</span></span></span>

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Cool project! Wouldn't mind having that in the garage.

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Non-original block apparently, its a CE - stamped CE A131309 ? Can anyone decipher?

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When the Flint engine plant went through the whole series of replacement V8 engine block serial numbers,in this case starting with &amp; including #20000 all the way up to &amp; including #49999,they reused them again only this time by prefixing them with the letter <span style="font-weight: bold">A</span> to designate that.

<span style="text-decoration: underline">Breaks down as follows:</span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">CE</span>=Chevrolet Engine.
<span style="font-weight: bold">A</span>=Revisited/reused LATE production serial number.
<span style="font-weight: bold">1</span>=last digit for model year it was issued..1971.
<span style="font-weight: bold">31309</span>=service engine blocks actual serial #.

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Cool car..got to love them Deuces.

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Does it have the uber rare original CBW rear? M21 original?

Thanks!

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FYI: Ebay lister has a link back to this thread.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body">FYI: Ebay lister has a link back to this thread. </div></div>

That's weird, like looking at a mirror of yourself in a mirror of yourself.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The ad says 4k miles, but it's probably 104k.</div></div>

Given that the car was sold new in northern IL and is now for sale in northern IL, one could reasonably assume it's been in northern IL much, if not all, of its life. Judging by the appearance of the subframe and undercarriage, I seriously doubt that car traveled 104K miles on northern IL roads [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif[/img]

Will definitely be interesting to see where this goes, moneywise [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

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I think it might be the 104k, if you note the dash has been changed so it might be that too. The car has a '72 dash bezel - note the seat belt warning light.

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You guys are sharp - great eyes!

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Also - at 40K the reserve has been met

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Correct, the reserve was $40k. My last conversation with the seller was that the general value for a car in this condition was $50-$75k. The high end gets knocked down a bit bec/ of the NM engine, and unknown about the trans &amp; rear. Also, the color is a factor for some. The body looks very nice, the floors look good, bumpers appear to be in good shape, etc... Some high dollar items are mia; shifter &amp; rubber mat - but both can be found reasonably with some swap meet / junk yard searching.

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11 bids and at $40,000, with 7 days to go, looks like it will fall within the 50-75 range you stated.

Of course, who would doubt you and your insight regarding Yenko Deuces? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Neat that the banker is going to let the auction run its course rather then end it early. By already meeting reserve, a smart move.

The more I look at the pictures of the car, and paperwork, the cooler it becomes.

IMO, this would be a good car to leave as is for now, do some racing at the SCR then display it at MCACN.

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I studied the photos a bit more, some minor items to note:

1. Steering column might have been hacked on - look carefully.
2. Has a fender mounted radio antenna
3. I don't see any E-brake stuff
4. SB trans crossmember
5. Scattershield instead of the requisite 621

Nothing major on any of these items, just noting them.

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I noticed on the vintage photo that the left side of the trunk lid has what appears to be a dealer emblem (Mancuso? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img] ). No rear sway bar.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sYc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">11 bids and at $40,000, with 7 days to go, looks like it will fall within the 50-75 range you stated.

Of course, who would doubt you and your insight regarding Yenko Deuces? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Neat that the banker is going to let the auction run its course rather then end it early. By already meeting reserve, a smart move.

The more I look at the pictures of the car, and paperwork, the cooler it becomes.

IMO, this would be a good car to leave as is for now, do some racing at the SCR then display it at MCACN. </div></div>

Agreed 100%!

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

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Who ever buys it may indeed get a immediate invite to be the Gobi representative in the deuce color display at the MCACN this fall. I have one on the line, but not a for sure.

Let me add, until the gentleman who has possession of this car can answer the question as to if the trans is original, and the rear is the correct CBW, I don't think it will, or should move much. The CBW is a deuce/COPO Canadian piece only. It should add, or subtract 10-15k from the value of the car if not more. Come on guys. You got it on the lift, It's no big deal to check that axle tube for the stamp, and if the VIN on the trans matches the car.
And, I think the frt ends been off not that it matters. Note that the bumper filler panel is painted body color, not argent. It looks ok, but ain't no virgin. FWIW

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My belief ref the rear - as im hearing, if the rear is NOT orig to the car, then finding an orig Deuce rear is next to impossible. As i shared with Marlin, usually you can find a COPO BE rear for sale and at the end of the day for a correct one, inside and out - you will have 14-15K into it. BUT, you can find them!

As for the Deuce Rear, I'm not seeing them available anywhere for a long long time and for a few people that may have a spare rear - 15K will not get you one.....so having said all the above -without the rear, the car should be at least 15K or more LESS than a car with an original rear.

JMO from a Camaro GUY :-) with a BE rear!!

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As for the value - it is hugely dependant upon knowing if the trans matches the vin tag and if the rear is in the car. Without these pieces in the car - the car has probably already reached the full value. The car appears to have been completely disassembled and put back together at one time. Note the body color painted underside - maybe I am wrong but I think this should be black and not fully painted to match the body color. As well, the bumper valance has been painted incorrectly to match the body color as well. Unless the current owner has removed the air cleaner for display - it would appear that this car has been setting a long time open to the elements.

This will be a great project from someone - I spoke to the owner and he is a great guy representing the bank that repossesed the car.

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You are correct Ed. I think it's irresponsible on the sellers part to not state if both the rear, and trans are original to the car. Almost like they want you to bid it up, (roll the dice) to see if they are there. Your bad if they're not.
Bidding on a &quot;maybe they're there&quot; just don't cut it. Not when it's easy to just look.
It's a cool car with good paper. I'd love to have it. It is what it is. But not listing all the assets, or lack of them is wrong. I'm done venting now......for a little while.

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I am confused on a couple of observations because I do not know enough about these cars. It was noticed that the car has a small block trans cross member but with the car being built with an LT-1 350 from the factory what cross member should it have? I thought if a Nova came with a radio in 1970 the antenna would be mounted in the windshield. Was a fender mounted antenna ever offered in 1970? Is just the dash gauge panel from a later model Nova or has the whole dash carrier assembly been replaced?

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Non original drivetrain sounds like a plus to me...that way the buyer won't feel guilty when he builds it for Pure Stock! 12.50s or bust! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 92646</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am confused on a couple of observations because I do not know enough about these cars. It was noticed that the car has a small block trans cross member but with the car being built with an LT-1 350 from the factory what cross member should it have? I thought if a Nova came with a radio in 1970 the antenna would be mounted in the windshield. Was a fender mounted antenna ever offered in 1970? Is just the dash gauge panel from a later model Nova or has the whole dash carrier assembly been replaced? </div></div>

The Deuces came with a BB crossmember, not sure why but we think its a carryover from the '69 COPO 9737 which was BB based. The '70 Deuces all have AM Radios w/ windshield antenna's, I think even the FM cars got 'em - but got ground straps. Can't tell if the speedo unit is from '72 or just the bezel.

The car looks like it indeed had its frame off at some point in order to get the gobi bottom treatment, not a huge deal, but is another indicator that the car is more likely a 104k mile car. I noticed the tach wires go to the center of underside of the hood, but the tach appears to be mounted in the correct location - just made me curious.

I asked the seller on Monday to post pics of the trans/rear, and told him exactly where/how to do it. The car is easily accessible as is the lift. Ed is correct, I don't know that I've ever seen but one CBW rear found loose in the market, so they are all but unobtainable - they are also rarely missing from Deuces, but until we know this car very well may stall.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chevy454</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Non original drivetrain sounds like a plus to me...that way the buyer won't feel guilty when he builds it for Pure Stock! 12.50s or bust! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] </div></div>

That's very true. And not a bad idea. I guess unless the owner verifies that it has the CBW, and original trans, we should assume it doesn't. Otherwiswe I'd certainly think it would be to his advantage to post that it/they are there. Whoever is representing this car through the bank has not done his due dilligence to try to get the best return on the auction.
Or, by being silent, slightly deceptive. It's the difference between 40, and maybe 60+.
I think if I bought it, I'd have to paint it blk with wht stripes. Big smile.

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Thank you Marlin. I was one of the bidders but to be honest I would like to to see pictures of hidden VINS in addition to the drivetrain numbers and I am concerned about any major damage the car may have seen in it's past. Still a neat car but it would be better with some answers.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Schonyenko2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think if I bought it, I'd have to paint it blk with wht stripes. </div></div>

Paint it Shadow Gray with Black Stripes and I'll take it! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img] (That's what I wanted back in 1970.)

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I don't think I'm too far away from the car.
If the seller is obliging,and someone wants me to go get a closer look and take pix of it for them,contact me at REDL78@Junodotcom or call me at home at 630-654-three five 0 nine.
~Replace the word dot with an actual dot..
Rick

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I think if you look close at the underneath it is painted white. alot of street racers did this back in the day as they believed it kept the heat down and they ran faster.