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737Driver 12-29-2009 09:45 PM

1/4 Mile Forward Visibility
 
Last 500' of an ILS approach to minimums.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v4...imumsinCLT.flv

Ngtflyr 12-29-2009 10:56 PM

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It's always a welcome sight to see the runway appear when you are at or approaching minimums, especially after a long day/night. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Xplantdad 12-29-2009 11:32 PM

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Mark...that's just crazy. That'd be a bit of a pucker factor for me! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Woj 12-29-2009 11:43 PM

Re: 1/4 Mile Forward Visibility
 
Cool video Mark,

You earn your money on approaches like that.

Did one down to 300 RVR back in the day at TWA on a 757.

Phil W. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

MosportGreen66 12-30-2009 01:44 AM

Re: 1/4 Mile Forward Visibility
 
Thats amazing! Thanks for sharing.

kwhizz 12-30-2009 01:55 AM

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Wow!!...............Pretty Scary!!......but, I guess you learn to trust your Instruments after a while......But....Better than seeing this........LOL

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...ord/runway.gif

Ken

JRSully 12-30-2009 04:52 PM

Re: 1/4 Mile Forward Visibility
 
When my old man was a DC10 Capt, he used to just flip the "iron monkey" (autoflare/autopilot)and let that land the aircraft

flyingn 12-31-2009 05:26 AM

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thats plain ol crazy right there!! lol

737Driver 12-31-2009 08:23 AM

Re: 1/4 Mile Forward Visibility
 
That ain't as big a deal as you might think...among professional airline pilots. Woj, don't you guys do CAT II approaches off the HUD?

At my airline, we can cut the visibility and ceiling that you see in my video by more than half and still land...safely. I'll try to capture one of those one day. Next time you are having a round of drinks in the cabin, remember to hoist one for the guys up front. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Happy New Year everyone!

Mark

Woj 12-31-2009 03:48 PM

Re: 1/4 Mile Forward Visibility
 
Mark,

We are CAT IIIa at with the Heads Up Display.

Happy New Year everyone.

Phil Woj.

737Driver 12-31-2009 05:15 PM

Re: 1/4 Mile Forward Visibility
 
Cool gadget, that HUD. Wish we had them. I believe Alaska uses them also.

427TJ 01-01-2010 10:53 PM

Re: 1/4 Mile Forward Visibility
 
Yes, Alaska has HUDs on the captain's side. We can go down to 600 RVR (ILS Category IIIa/autoland) at Seattle. 600/600/Required, as a matter of fact. 600 feet runway visual range at touchdown, 600 midfield, "Required" at the rollout end. "Required" means that there has to be an operable Transmissometer (visibility measurement device) but no visual range value is required for rollout so zero is acceptable for the rollout value. Our minimum vis for takeoff is 300 RVR at Seattle and that's hand-flown. There is no such thing as an autopilot takeoff. Yet. Once they figure that out--and people will still be willing to get on airliners--Mark and I are out of a job!

Yeah, the first time you fly a CatIIIa down to "mins" it's an eye-opener but then they become routine. When the vis is that bad the winds are calm--or very light--so the landing is a non-event. The runway is straight ahead so it appears out of the fog right where you want it to be. In high crosswinds and low ceilings (not fog) you rock and roll down final approach and because the jet is "crabbed" into the wind, sometimes 15-20 degrees off, you have to look for the runway at one side of your windscreen or the other as you emerge from the clouds. Big fun!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runway_visual_range

BARN FIND 01-02-2010 02:19 AM

Re: 1/4 Mile Forward Visibility
 
Just outa curiosity, what was the RVR on that approach?

737Driver 01-02-2010 03:36 AM

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Mine was 100 overcast with the RVR 1,000 variable to 3,000.


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