How rare is a 69 Camaro Rosewood radio delete ???
 

Just wondering how rare is a 1969 Camaro Rosewood radio delete ? Has anyone seen one ??? Whats a real one worth any Ideas ???

Thanks SYC
Jim

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The last real one I saw was a picture of one that Charley had. I think the only way you would get one in a Camaro was if you ordered deluxe interior and no radio. That sounds like a very rare combintation to me.

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There are a bunch of fakes out there that come out of I think a buick. A orig one has the woodgrain panel studded thru a black delete. same part # on the black plate. I have pics somewhere.

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Charley I will post the pictures of the one I bought from you years back... Mark

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Here is some pictures of the one I bought from Charley. Some of these are his pictures and some are mine of the same plate. Then I have another set from an auction years back that still retains the GM stickers. Enjoy... Mark
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/396L35/08_3.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/396L35/10_322.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/396L35/cf_3.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/396L35/72_3.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...5/DSC06215.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...5/DSC06216.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...diodelete2.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...diodelete4.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y29...diodelete3.jpg

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I think the only way you would get one in a Camaro was if you ordered deluxe interior and no radio.

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Actually, it would be console, deluxe (Z87), or special int (Z23). All of those would put woodgrain on the driver's side.
http://www.camaros.org/interior.shtml#1969Woodgrain

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Just a pet peeve of mine and many others in the hobby, but when are we going to begin describing this as a "no radio plate" rather than a radio delete?

You can not delete something that was optional, it simply was not ordered from the options list. Something that was "standard" equipment that was factory removed was a "factory delete" e.g. a no heater plate.

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Just a pet peeve of mine and many others in the hobby, but when are we going to begin describing this as a "no radio plate" rather than a radio delete?

You can not delete something that was optional, it simply was not ordered from the options list. Something that was "standard" equipment that was factory removed was a "factory delete" e.g. a no heater plate.

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That would currently be known as a "radio block-off plate".
Feel free to join with the "many others" that have this pet peeve and call it what you like. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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Just a pet peeve of mine and many others in the hobby, but when are we going to begin describing this as a "no radio plate" rather than a radio delete?

You can not delete something that was optional, it simply was not ordered from the options list. Something that was "standard" equipment that was factory removed was a "factory delete" e.g. a no heater plate.

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That would currently be known as a "radio block-off plate".
Feel free to join with the "many others" that have this pet peeve and call it what you like. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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Is that what the GM parts book refers to it as?

I am not certain of ALL the different actual terms the different manufacturers referred to them as, but I DO know that the term "radio delete" is definately NOT correct. That was my only point here.

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I thought all 69 Camaros came standard with an AM radio umless it was 'deleted' from the order form.....but, maybe I'm wrong on this one...anyone???

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I thought all 69 Camaros came standard with an AM radio umless it was 'deleted' from the order form.....but, maybe I'm wrong on this one...anyone???

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An AM radio was never "standard". Any radio was optional/extra cost equipment. Most got it, but unless specifically ordered, you got the block off/delete plate, as well as a taped-in cardboard blackout cover that went under the dash where the speaker opening was, as well as a plastic plug in the door jamb where the antenna would normally pass through.

Because these cars were already set up for a radio, including a hole in the plastic dash housing with 2 separate circular openings for the volume and tune knobs (the cluster even has VOL and TUNE molded into it, which gets covered by the block off/delete plate) as well as a speaker grille in the metal dash, and hole for the antenna, IMO, calling it a "delete" plate is ok, even though it was indeed optional equipment to actually have the radio installed.

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Acording to the numbers that I have found only 25857 cars out of the total production of 243085 did not receive a radio. 16% percent of the production had deluxe interior. I was just curious how many of the rosewood versions had been seen still in cars or for sale. Most of the camaro people I had spoken to had never seen one just pictures. I know from working back in the Chevy dealerships in the seventies even our price leader cars that were ordered without a radio received a dealer installed radio before delivery and the plates went back to parts or were thrown away. My 70 SS convertible was ordered without a radio and still retains its original grained blockoff and I have only seen 1 other like it in the Blue LS-6 convertible that Chris White just finished. I have a whole collection of block off plates from 55 to 72 that I am thinking of letting go even 70-72 Monte Carlo wood grained ones that are never seen.


Jim

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-----Can I have 'em???????........Bill S

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I have been looking for one since I got my my car in '96, but so far no luck.
I have even stepped up with some serious coin for the ones that have shown up on E-Bay, but was always outbid.

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Is this most likely the way all Chevy radio block off plates with woodgrain are constructed? I am wondering because I once saw a 68 Caprice one but the woodgrain was a metal cutout and was glued onto a regular plate.

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here is the window sticker to my car showing no radio ordered but ordered with deluxe interior
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2...C-002F-1-1.jpg

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I knew a guy that went into a chevy dealer and found(bought) literally hundreds of radio-block off plates that had been removed from cars and just stored for many years. Apparently this dealer ordered all his cars w/o radios and installed radios themselves after the cars were delivered.

Re: How rare is a 69 Camaro Rosewood radio delete ???
 

I thought all 69 Camaros came standard with an AM radio umless it was 'deleted' from the order form.....but, maybe I'm wrong on this one...anyone???


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An AM radio was never "standard". Any radio was optional/extra cost equipment. Most got it, but unless specifically ordered, you got the block off/delete plate, as well as a taped-in cardboard blackout cover that went under the dash where the speaker opening was, as well as a plastic plug in the door jamb where the antenna would normally pass through.

Because these cars were already set up for a radio, including a hole in the plastic dash housing with 2 separate circular openings for the volume and tune knobs (the cluster even has VOL and TUNE molded into it, which gets covered by the block off/delete plate) as well as a speaker grille in the metal dash, and hole for the antenna, IMO, calling it a "delete" plate is ok, even though it was indeed optional equipment to actually have the radio installed.

I stand corrected...Thanks Joe

Re: How rare is a 69 Camaro Rosewood radio delete ???
 

Thanks for all the input I guess I'm going to list the Mint one I have in the Classified section and over at camaro's.net

Jim

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Clean out your mail box JIM

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Almost all of the 69 Camaros were ordered with the extremely popular "COPO delete" option.

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Posted picts over at Camaro's.net in the Classified section cant get them to load here

Jim

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I knew a guy that went into a chevy dealer and found(bought) literally hundreds of radio-block off plates that had been removed from cars and just stored for many years. Apparently this dealer ordered all his cars w/o radios and installed radios themselves after the cars were delivered.

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I believe that is where most of these "delete" plates come from. I've seen a lot of original paperwork where the radio is priced out on the dealer order form and invoice, but the radio is not on the window sticker. (my own '62 is an example). Apparently, the dealers could make more profit by installing it themselves rather than just getting the mark-up on the option cost.
Verne https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't each dealer get a required initial accessory shipment form the General every year?? If that was the case it made more sense to install the radio's that they had to buy instead of ordering them in the car???

Brian