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The Superbird's styling proved to be a little extreme for 1970 tastes (many customers preferred the regular Road Runner), and as a consequence, many examples sat unsold on the back lots of dealerships as late as 1972. Some were converted back into 1970 Road Runners to move them off the sales lot. In recent years, however, the Superbird has become quite valuable. A Superbird can fetch anywhere from $80,000 to US$300,000. On eBay, bids for original Superbirds crossed $800,000. Some manufacturers produce Superbird conversion kits for 1970 Road Runners and Satellites. Kits are also available for non produced 1971 and 1972 bodies for the Superbird.

The Superbird and the Dodge Charger Daytona were each built for 1 model year only (1970 and 1969 respectively). Appearing at the peak of the muscle car era, it is certainly one of the rarest and most desirable of muscle cars
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I need to know what on the fender tag would have IDd the cars as a Superbird or Daytona?? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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I can´t answer your question Jeff, but are you saying that they are making the special reinforcements in the trunk and also the special rearwindow arrangements for these cars today ?

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A11 on 69...its also in the VIN XX29
A13 on 70

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They weren't "converted" back into anything, they simply had the wings and noses removed and normal fenders and grill hardware put into place. Our local dealership in West Haven, Connecticut did that to their Superbird back in the day.

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They weren't "converted" back into anything, they simply had the wings and noses removed and normal fenders and grill hardware put into place. Our local dealership in West Haven, Connecticut did that to their Superbird back in the day.

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Steve, if a car was found that once was a winged car but then those items were removed would it be worth more as is or with the wing/nose added back onto the car? Do they even make those items as REPO parts??

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Mahalo for the answer on the codes https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

now I have two cars to check to see if those were on the tags. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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Here's the repo stuff to make a Daytona/Superbird. These guys are the ones who make all the cool "phantom" 1-of-none wing cars that have gotten ink the last few years.

http://www.officialdayclona.com/services

Don't forget that '70 Superbirds had '70 Dodge Coronet front fenders, so those will have to be swapped back on as well. Hard to imagine now that a 'Bird was so sale-proof by 1971 that it made sense to put a whole FRONT CLIP on, remove the wing, and paint most of the car to make it go away.

I think they're definitely worth more in wing trim. Would a ZL1 Camaro be worth more with the random small block put in after the dealer sold the engine to a racer to try and get the $7000 white elephant off his lot?.

I hope you'll show pics if you're successful! I think the Cars In Barns site might show a couple of Superbirds sans the pointy beaks, but with the telltale rear window treatment (the flush mounted rear window and resulting mandatory vinyl top would not have been changed back)

TOM

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http://wwnboa.org/patik.htm

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If you spot a 70 Road Runner with a "U" engine code (I.E. RM23U0), it's a 'Bird.

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If you spot a 70 Road Runner with a "U" engine code (I.E. RM23U0), it's a 'Bird.

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For the uninitiated, that's because the Roadrunner came with the 383 (N code) or the 440-6 barrel (V code) or the Hemi (R code). Only the GTX and the Superbird came with the 440 4bbl (U code) in 1970.

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Steve, do you mean to say just in the B bodies? I have owned 2 E bodies (cudas) with the "U" code 440 ci 4 barrel.

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Only applies to Road Runners in 1970.

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Interesting I did not know that. I have had some b bodies, but I have not had a Road Runner.

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If you spot a 70 Road Runner with a "U" engine code (I.E. RM23U0), it's a 'Bird.

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But there are Hemi superbirds that were converted back to Roadrunners, they have the R-code.

One lucky guy over here found out that it wasn't just an ordinary Hemi roadrunner he had, it was a Superbird. Telltale was of course the rearwindow and the rearwing reinforcements in the rear quarters.

Car is in its final moments of restoration and should be ready for next summer.

Jan

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You're reading way too much into this. He was just giving a heads up for people. What he is saying is that since the 440 4bbl was not avail in a RM23 Roadrunner, if you find an RM23 Roadrunner with a U engine code in the VIN, it was originally a Superbird because there were no 440 4bbl Roadrunners except for the RM23U Roadrunner Superbirds.

Your buddy's car must have been a heck of a find. Not only a Superbird but a hemi, too. Was it found over there or in the states and shipped over?

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Your buddy's car must have been a heck of a find. Not only a Superbird but a hemi, too. Was it found over there or in the states and shipped over?

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It was one of many musclecars that ended up here in the mid 70's, and it came here as a Hemi Roadrunner. It was many years later that the owner of it then made the discovery.
After many years of restoration it is now a Superbird again. It has been a lot of hassle to find parts for it, especially the nose.


Jan

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Awesome. Post some photos when you get a chance.

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Janne, is it this one ?

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/q...Superbirds.jpg

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That would be one de-winged Superbird.

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Janne, is it this one ?

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Yes that's the one, came to Sweden in 1976.

Jan

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If you spot a 70 Road Runner with a "U" engine code (I.E. RM23U0), it's a 'Bird.

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For the uninitiated, that's because the Roadrunner came with the 383 (N code) or the 440-6 barrel (V code) or the Hemi (R code). Only the GTX and the Superbird came with the 440 4bbl (U code) in 1970.

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Yes, all of the above is true but may confuse some here. The "U" code engine is the standard engine for a S-Bird but it was available optionally with both the six barrel and the Hemi as well.

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Quite correct, Superbirds were either U, V, or R-coded.

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Yes, all of the above is true but may confuse some here. The "U" code engine is the standard engine for a S-Bird but it was available optionally with both the six barrel and the Hemi as well.

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That's correct, but I was just making the point that RM23+U engine code=Superbird, everytime.

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Janne, is it this one ?

http://i436.photobucket.com/albums/q...Superbirds.jpg

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Wow. That brings back memories of my first 70 RR. Sans the funny looking back window, of course. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif