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sappy787 09-29-2009 09:04 AM

67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
Recently bought a 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR.

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sappy787 09-29-2009 09:22 AM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
Trying to post a picture but says file is to big !!

sappy787 09-29-2009 09:24 AM

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It was a one owner Camaro .

JChlupsa 09-29-2009 10:06 AM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
send me the pictures and i can re-size it and post it for you

sappy787 09-29-2009 09:31 PM

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Pictures sent. Thanks

mockingbird812 09-29-2009 10:02 PM

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How come you haven't posted the pix yet Jeff!!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

sappy787 09-29-2009 10:12 PM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
I got an email from Helmut Eckert and he said he would post. ??

sappy787 09-29-2009 10:31 PM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
i tried to reformat pictures and still can post. I have some sweet original pictures of interior when new, car with decals still on fresh off the car lot in Texas.

67L78conv 09-30-2009 12:15 AM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
Feel free to send them to me, I make a living doing this stuff so I can resize, etc. for you very quickly. Will PM you the e-mail would love to see them.

L78M22Rag 09-30-2009 03:23 AM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
Sorry for the delay... got busy at work today.

Here it is back in it's prime...
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...ert/img013.jpg

Here it is today...
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...t/000_2631.jpg

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...t/000_2632.jpg

iluv69s 09-30-2009 03:59 AM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
Congrats on a cooolllll carrrrrr !!!! i guess the hideaways were not working early on..and that's why GM switched to the vacuum hideaways...and are they the "simulated mags" in that original pic?..dig the red stripes...cool color pic...

So what is the story on the original owner buying the car ..and keeping it so long?? If you don't mind my asking...I just think that is one of the coolest parts of a car like this !!

Thanks for sharing.... Max

427TJ 09-30-2009 04:39 AM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
Looks like a drum-brake car with N96 covers. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Xplantdad 09-30-2009 05:16 AM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
I thought that you had to get front disc brakes with a big block 67 Camaro? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

rafbody 09-30-2009 05:44 AM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
The only 67 Camaro that required front disc brakes was the Z/28. Disc brakes were optional but not required on any other 67 Camaro.

http://www.camaros.org/suspen.shtml#Brakes


427TJ 09-30-2009 05:54 AM

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I thought that you had to get front disc brakes with a big block 67 Camaro? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Bruce, mine has drums. Also, in '67 the disc option required the Rally ("Disc Brake") wheel, like your brother's Camaro. From '68-on it didn't--you could get steelies with hubcaps/wheelcovers on disc cars and the Rally wheel became an option, I think on all cars drum or disc.

BARNFOUND YENKO 09-30-2009 06:04 AM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
To get a bigblock i believe you had to order the SS package which included discbrakes. No factory bigblocks with drumbrakes. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Zedder 09-30-2009 06:15 AM

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To get a bigblock i believe you had to order the SS package which included discbrakes. No factory bigblocks with drumbrakes. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Absolutely false about SS cars requiring disc brakes!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

Bill Pritchard 09-30-2009 06:41 AM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
SS package did not include disc brakes until 1969.

427.060 09-30-2009 07:03 AM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
Same with Chevelles. Disc were an option on the 67 and 68 SS and part of the 69 and up SS package. The 67 and 68 had 4 piston calipers.
James

427TJ 09-30-2009 07:57 AM

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To get a bigblock i believe you had to order the SS package which included discbrakes. No factory bigblocks with drumbrakes. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Absolutely false about SS cars requiring disc brakes!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

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Mine (below) is a 4N/Th400 with power drum brakes.

427TJ 09-30-2009 08:02 AM

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http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...ert/img013.jpg

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Someone commented that the light doors were not working in this photo. I think on mine if I turn the engine off with the lights on the doors stay open. Then, when the key's off and I switch-off the lights, the lights go out but the doors remain open. I'll have to go check that. I think the photo depicts a "normal" condition.

firstgenaddict 09-30-2009 08:30 AM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
My 43 k mile 68 RS/SS 396 had drum brakes as well...

sappy787 09-30-2009 08:34 AM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
I was at a car show with my 69 RS. I parked and got my lawn chair and was sitting by my car. There was an older lady sitting on the ground next to me. She commented on my ar being a very nice car. I told her thanks I love my car I only wish it was convertible.

sappy787 09-30-2009 08:35 AM

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She paused and then said my brother who is ill has a 67 convertible and he bought it new in 1967 from a dealer in Texas. She said he told her it was on the show room floor and had just rolled off he delivery truck.

sappy787 09-30-2009 08:37 AM

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I didnt think much as I figured it was a plain convertible. Her husband showed up a little later and I brought the camaro convertible back up. He says oh yes it has a 396 and its a true 4 speed. Needless to say they now have my attention. He mentioned someone offered them 9k a couple years ago. So they just left it in a garage hid from her brother who was fighting Ahltimers Disease. She said he tried to drive it to Colorade a few years earlier and got lost

sappy787 09-30-2009 08:40 AM

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A few days later I went and looked at the car. They put a new battery in it and fired it up. No smoke or knocks and it sounded damn good. I knew I had to have the car. I had no idea about the pace car thing. I saw it as a 396 convertible 4 speed. I bought it that day and drove it home. I started trying to decode the cowl tag & vin and couldn't decode L181A. I emailed CRG and they congratulated me on having a 67 Indy pace replica.

sappy787 09-30-2009 08:41 AM

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I WILL POST THE REST OF THAT STORY IF YOU ARE INTERESTED !!

I DONT WANT TO BORE YOU AND TAKE TO MUCH MORE SPACE.

Dave

sappy787 09-30-2009 08:42 AM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
Did you notice the pace car decals still on the car in the first picture?

sappy787 09-30-2009 09:00 AM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
Mike (67L78conv )

I emailed a couple more pictures to the yahoo email address you have listed on here.

Thanks
Dave

lwkitt427 09-30-2009 10:21 AM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
COOL FIND I HAVE TO GET OUT MORE AD START LOOKING BEEN SO BUSY WIHT WORK NO TIME TO GO ANY SHOWS OR ANYTHING ELSE LATLEY

67L78conv 09-30-2009 10:52 AM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
Got them, hope you do not mind, I cleaned them up a bit to compensate for the faded colors and what not in the two older ones. That is one sweet ride, been following the thread when I have time on the PC site. Great story and info, pics are spectacular, bore us with every detail you want, I know I will read it. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

http://www.chevroletcamaros.com/imag...7PC1968pic.jpg

http://www.chevroletcamaros.com/imag...PCinterior.jpg

http://www.chevroletcamaros.com/imag.../67PCtrunk.jpg

For some of the comments earlier the Z was specified for Disc and the L35 and other 396's were drums but could be upgraded to disc. In 67 when you ordered disc brakes there was no option but to get the rally wheels as there were clearance issues with the current steel rims and they did not re-engineer and offer them up for the Camaro for the 67 model year, later they would become an option. Links to the GM letters/announcements are listed below. For the Z the disc brake info is on page 2, the L35 and L78 do not listed as an upgrade for disc as it was not offered in base trim but again could be ordered with them as an option.

67 Z28 Specifications Letter

67 L35 Camaro Follow up Bulletin and Specs

67 L78 Camaro Intro Letter and Specs

Xplantdad 09-30-2009 11:11 AM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
Thanks for clearing that up for me...LOL

Shows how much I know. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

Sorry for the confusion https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

Really cool Pace Car!

69 Post Sedan 09-30-2009 02:42 PM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
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Did you notice the pace car decals still on the car in the first picture?

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sappy787 09-30-2009 08:17 PM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
Merle had the Camaro towed from Colorado to Iowa. Iowa is where he is living now. He told the mechanic the car didnt sound right and he wanted it gone thru. The mechanic said Merle told him it was a pace car he bought in Texas while in the miliary.

sappy787 09-30-2009 08:18 PM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
Merle said he and a friend went to the dealership and the car had just rolled in and was being put on the showroom floor. He inquired and was told initially the car wasn't for sale. Teh salesman advised it was a display car for a new Chevy promo. Merle said he stayed persistent and they ended up charging him an additional fee to buy it. I dont recall what the mechanic said but it was some sort of a special fee he agreed to pay to get the car. That fee was above and beyond the invoice price.

sappy787 09-30-2009 08:20 PM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
He said Merle also agreed on some sort of contract that he would leave the decalls on the car for a period of time. The mechanic didnt recall for how long. Merle told the mechanic it was a special car and he would never part with it. Merle told the mechanic he was to leave the decals on for twom months but took them off after a month. Thats why te picture with the decalls has to be when the car was NEW.

sappy787 09-30-2009 08:22 PM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
Merle's familt has confirmed the mechanics story. He was in college and a military officer going thru pilot training when he got the car.

BARNFOUND YENKO 09-30-2009 08:22 PM

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Thanks for clearing that up for me...LOL

Shows how much I know. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

Sorry for the confusion https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif

Really cool Pace Car!

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Same here, I had 69 on the brain as well. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

sappy787 09-30-2009 08:25 PM

Re: 67 SS RS 396 4 SPEED PACE CAR
 
The car was bought new at Benson Chevrolet in Texas.

427TJ 10-01-2009 02:10 AM

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Last point on '67 disc vs. drums:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...NewCamaros.jpg

The car in the foreground has drums, thus the FC wheels and, in this case, P01 wheel covers. The second car has discs and thus the Disc Brake wheels. The SS427 Impala also has discs, as can be clearly seen. Dana Chevrolet, 1967.


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