Dave's New COPO
 

This is a continuation of this thread:
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat...ad5f#Post419191

A new member here, Dave McGaffe, (Grumpystoy), with a lot of help from the master of COPO location, Doug Perry, scored this barn find old racer at an estate auction in Stuebinville, OH.
Parked in a garage untouched since 1974, this is a true Old School drag racer. Sometime later on, Dave will fill in more of the details.
First is a picture of the original owner of the car, taken yesterday in Stuebinville.
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That car does not even look like it needs to be waxed. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif Ohio has got to be the capital for Copo camaros! Good going Doug! The new COPO-LOCO. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

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Here are a few more from Stuebinville,

Doug Perry with the original owner. It looks like Doug is heaving a sigh of relief that he didn't drive that rollback three hours for nothing.

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The original owner got behind the wheel one last time before hauling it back to Columbus.

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The original motor was swept off a track early on, but this is a rat that can be brought back to life. Check out that cool can, looks like it was borrowed from a still.

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Good bye Stuebinville, Hello Columbus.

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Dave and Doug stopped by the Bob McDorman show last night before stashing it in the Batcave. Here are a few more shot that I took, with a little help from Doug. I've known Dave for a long time, and he looked like a proud poppa.

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Believe it when I tell you, Doug was just as excited as Dave. He can't wait to start taking parts off this car. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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Some more from last night. Doug pointing out some details in the paint job.

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Trunk lid detail.

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A few more...
Looking in from the back window.

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It's an X44 car, but with a deluxe interior. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

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View from the cockpit.

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I love it when a good plan comes together and it found a great home with Dave. Now give it a good wax job, go through the motor and get ready for next years reunion so you can slam your own gears... Mark

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More...
The paint job is first class, for 1970. With a little love and a lot of buffing, this hood will shine.

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Last one, the name says it all. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

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If I get the All Access Pass to the Batcave, I'll keep everyone posted on the project. When this thing is done, look out! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

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OMG !!!!!! AWESOME !!!!! CONGRATS !!!! can't wait to see it next year in a match race with CALEB !!!

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Congrats again Dave! Love that Old School look. And Kudos to the biggest blood hound i know, Mr. Perry (You da Man!)
The "MOF" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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WOW..... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/drool.gif

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This is the coolest. Dave don't restore this car or I may commit suicide. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

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Fear not, Darren. This car was born to run, and will be reborn by Dave, who can't wait to get this car back on the track.

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Hello everyone,
Thanks for checking out my NEW "old race car". I would like to thank Doug Perry for hooking me up with this one, he is the go to guy if your looking for these rare cars, especially the history on them. With Doug's "CSI" tactics we virtually knew all the history on this car before we got to the auction , and that was in a matter of days. Thanks again Doug. I would also like to thank the original owner whom we met at the estate auction (2nd owner died), His name is Doug E. ,a great guy and he will obviously be a wealth of knowlege on the car since it remains almost 100% as he built it back in 1970. I will have the car "RACE READY" at next years SCR and hope to have him there to meet everyone and let him take it down the track. He also has video of the car back in the day that I would love to share with all of you , I will see what I can do on that.
Dave

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I'm with Darren. I would clean and detail the car, make it run and drive, and leave it as is. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif This is an unbelievable find!

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What a find......congrats

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Awesome! I love that 60's "mod" graphics/lettering style. Totally cool paint scheme on a totally cool car. Can't wait to see this one in the flesh. Congrats!

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That would be a shame to restore that car. Nice find

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Are there any pictures in as found condition?

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I'm sure the locals thought you guys were crazy for bidding what you did on that car. I know the conservative mentality of that area all too well... the smile on Dave standing next to the original owner tells the story.

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That's one of the coolest finds I've seen in a long time. It doesn't get much better than that. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif
Just be careful if you decide to buff it. Nothing abrasive or all that 60's 70's clear laquer will be on the pad.

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I do restoration work on the side on these cars for a few select friends of mine , but no one needs to worry about me making this one all "original" again. I can appreciate a restored nut and bolt car like everyone else , but my first love is a day 2 car ,this one will get cleaned up , go thru the drivetrain,brakes ,etc., and be making pass's with the wheels up and very DEEP into the 10's next year! I can't wait to "row" thru the gears on this one.....

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I do restoration work on the side on these cars for a few select friends of mine , but no one needs to worry about me making this one all "original" again. I can appreciate a restored nut and bolt car like everyone else , but my first love is a day 2 car ,this one will get cleaned up , go thru the drivetrain,brakes ,etc., and be making pass's with the wheels up and very DEEP into the 10's next year! I can't wait to "row" thru the gears on this one.....

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AWESOME! How many miles do I have to drive to see it? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

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Dave, Congrats again. I will be in Columbus very soon to see this amazing find! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

Grady https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

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Are there any pictures in as found condition?

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Your looking at them....

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At the auction we had the pleasure of meeting and speaking with the original owner Doug E. he is from the Cleveland area of Parma Heights. As you see the photos we did ABSOLUTELY nothing to the car except load it up and head back to Columbus. Doug E. worked at Myles Engineering back in the day his best ET. was an 10.66 @ 133. He left the original motor @ Thompson Speedway in pieces. The original selling dealer was Rodenfels Chevy on Pearl Rd. The rear 1/4 panel if you look very closely still has his name. Talking to the nephew and brother of the second owner, Joe only took the car out 2-3 times when he owned it and parked it in 1974. The car did track time @ PID, Norwalk, Bristol,Rockingham,Lakeland Florida, Beckley WV. Dragway 42. Doug E. recalls racing against Larry Morgan back when he ran Fords. The car became a racecar the day it came home to Pleasant Valley Rd. in Parma Heights. The mileage is 100% correct...just look at the pebblegrain in the steering wheel. It WILL NOT get restored....only freshened up and doing track time at National Trails....Dave's shifting and tuning ability is pretty damn good. He told me he always wanted a 69 Camaro Racecar...well here it is. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

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lots of other "interesting" items at that sale:

VEHICLES – 1955 Greyhound Scenic Cruiser, 40 ft. customized private coach, new engine & transmission; 1965 Greyhound Eagle bus, completely customized private coach, new engine; 1974 Motor Home, rear Chrysler 440 engine; 1963 Corvette, split window coupe, 327 fuel injection, 4-speed; 1969 Camaro “The Radical One” set up for drag racing; 1981 Honda Civic, 4 cyl, 5 speed; 1987 Oldsmobile Cutless Supreme, 307 engine; 1979 Cadillac Seville, fuel injection, 80 orig. miles; 1978 Chevy Caprice Classic 66,00 miles; 1957 Chevy Bel-Air (no engine);

PLUS:

NEW AUTO BODY PARTS – new left & right side quarter panels for a 1967 Shelby in original crate; new bumper & side panels and assort of parts for a 1963 Corvette; 200+ new mufflers in boxes; large assort. of new parts in original boxes; large assort. of auto glass; air filters; and miscellaneous.

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"It will NOT get restored". Doug, you guys just became my new bunch of heros, replacing BBBenny! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

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Now let's talk Dave into getting this car to Chicago in November and Carlisle next June, BUT only after he takes care of a few other projects. Right Frank and Caleb https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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Congratulations.. that car is really neat. What class did the car run? It looks like it just stepped out of the early 70's with all the period stuff. Talk about time machine!!

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Wow, man what a nice car you guys found, I think its safe to say its the find of the year.... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Just amazing ..... Grats!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Awesome ride Dave!! Very Cool Time Capsule!!! Can't wait to see it live....

Rodenfels was originally located at 6376 Pearl Rd. in Parma Hts., Ohio and sold several COPOS.. The dealership became Bill Doraty Chevrolet and then sometime in the late 80s or early 90s Integrity Chevrolet took over and moved into the building.. The dealership is now defunct.. I don't know what will become of the building.. Probably be knocked down... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif

Doug asked me if I would slide over to the old dealership location and take some pictures of same.. I did this last night.. It's funny, I talked to the original owner of this car on the telephone and he stated that he remembered the dealership was next to a little greasy spoon restaurant called the Whip which is still there and in business... He stated his wife had worked there during the time he bought the COPO.

Sorry to HI JACK the thread Andy.........

Enjoy..... Rich https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Here are a few more details on the car.
06A X44 57 fathom green 712 deluxe black int
427 copo , m22 trans(when new)
4,104 original miles on the body
all original sheet metal except hood
427 , aluminum heads , dominator intake and carb, chevy cable drive dist. , curved neck radiator,chrysler "HEMI 4 speed crash box" (the tranny of choice back in the day), original BB cross member, dual lakewood drive shaft loops, BE 12 bolt with summers bros axles,lakewood traction bars, front disc brakes were replaced with drum (for less drag Back in the day), dual SW fuel pumps,the sub frame and bumper brackets have been drilled with holes to reduce weight,no spoilers , still has all the original carpet and a lakewood bolt in roll bar.The original owner had the car painted as you see it when it was one year old, and for an old laquer paint job there is no checking at all from not seeing the light of day for almost 35 years.
As far as the class it ran in , he raced at AHRA and IHRA tracks and I don't remember the what class he said but from the way the car is set up it looks like an NHRA A/modified production car. But I will find out from the owner.

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Probably A/MP in NHRA trim would be a tunnel ram set-up. Caleb's car is a perfect example of an A-B/MP car of the early 70's. Those cars ventured into Pro Stock on some weekend invitational meets at the local dragstrips. Looks like an NHRA SS/D car without the aluminum heads. Can't remember if you could run aluminum heads on a 427 in NHRA SS back then on a camaro. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

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I'm so jealous. I hope some day i can find an Awesome barn Find!!!!

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Absolutely awesome awesome COPO find !!! Very very COOL !!! Super happy to hear you are going to leave it in its original state !!! Congratulations !!!

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Wow...congrats and thanks for keeping it the way it is..

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WOW !!!!!!!!!!! Congrats Dave... Cool car, I can't wait to see it in person... You and Doug are some real COPO hounds !!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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WOW !! That is really the coolest car I have seen in a long time ! Great find !

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