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1968 Z28 COWL COLOR
ON A LA BUILT 68 Z28 WAS THE COWL AERA PAINTED THE COLOR OF THE CAR OR THE COLOR OF THE STRIPE ?
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HI str[pe color
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I know 02E cars were car color across the top of the cowl & painted white under the cowl. I'm guessing you have white stripes. What is the build date of your car?
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IT IS A BLACK STRIPE CAR AND HAS A BUILD DATE OF 04D
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Mine is all black. No color....Joe
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HOW ABOUT THE INNER PART OF THE FENDER WOULD THAT BE BLACK ALSO ?
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If you're refering to the edge where the hinges are, it's car color....Joe
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My 02E Z28 has white across the top of the cowl and also under the wiper cowl. The white extends just to about 6 inches from the fenders . My car was painted the same as the picture on page 75 of Jerry MacNeishs book on 67-68 Z28s before I restored it.
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ON A LA BUILT 68 Z28 WAS THE COWL AERA PAINTED THE COLOR OF THE CAR OR THE COLOR OF THE STRIPE ? [/ QUOTE ] all 67-69 Van Nuys cars had the cowl painted the color of the stripe, even the Z10 & Z11 69 Pace Cars. Here is a pic of a 68 Z: http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26...68zengcomp.jpg |
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I have pictures of an 02E Los Angeles car that is still original, never been painted or touched up & it looks nothing like the car Jim has posted...Joe
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PTB stamps weren't used in Van Nuys.
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Yeah...don't get me started on what's WRONG with that car. I will try to post a picture later. Joe
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How do I post a picture. Thanks, Joe
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to post a picture:
[img] your http address of your picture ending in .jpg [/img] no spaces search team Camaro, there has been a lot of discussions on that subject there with pictures the PTB IS wrong (duh), but the stripe color and coverage is right |
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Did LA remove cowl panel to paint this area? I would say yes.
Bob |
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the cowl was painted before the cowl panel went on
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That's what I thought, I have photos somewhere showing that.
Bob |
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SO ON A BLACK STRIPE CAR THE COWL AND FIREWALL WILL ALL BLEND TOGETHER ?
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I wonder why some of these pics show the stripe colour all the way across the cowl and others as mine is were masked off and done like the one in Jerrys book on page 75. Mine was this way before restored,a tape line and then body colour beyond that out to the fender.
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MINE IS GLOSS BLACK ALL THE WAY TO THE FENDERS JUST LIKE THE PICTURES OF THE Z/11 CAR THAT IS PAINTED ORANGE ALL THE WAY ACROSS ? I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS IN CORRECT TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE FENDER BUT YOU CAN TELL IT HAS NOT BEEN TOUCHED ON MY CAR !
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So far, in my research on the subject has shown that stripe-color paint was painted in a section as shown in the image I've posted here (69 Z11 03B)...as well as paint all the way across the cowl between the pinch weld and from the base of the windshield to the top front edge of the firewall. So far, there hasn't been a rhyme or reason to LOS or NOR...can somebody chime in?
Thanks, Tony Huntimer Camaro Performers Magazine http://www.racehome.com/images/camar...3B-Z11COWL.jpg |
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Tony probably has a good point here. I sent firez a picture of an 02E car that was built 15 cars before mine. White stripes but lemans blue across the cowl like the car Tony has posted. My car, with black stripes was not like this.
Joe |
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Not sure of the first cars' build date or assembly plant, but here are some OP (original paint) Z28's:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...nce/Zcowl2.jpg http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...nce/Zcowl3.jpg Here's a 02D Norwood '69 http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...nce/Zcowl4.jpg Tony Huntimer Camaro Performers Magazine Camaros.net also has a little linfo on this subject at: http://www.camaros.net/forums/showth...owl&page=2 |
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So far, in my research on the subject has shown that stripe-color paint was painted in a section as shown in the image I've posted here (69 Z11 03B)...as well as paint all the way across the cowl between the pinch weld and from the base of the windshield to the top front edge of the firewall. So far, there hasn't been a rhyme or reason to LOS or NOR...can somebody chime in? Thanks, Tony Huntimer Camaro Performers Magazine http://www.racehome.com/images/camar...3B-Z11COWL.jpg [/ QUOTE ] your picture is an example of how NORWOOD painted the Z10/Z11 cars, not Van Nuys again, the pictures I posted earlier are ONLY for Van Nuys cars ... |
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SO ON A BLACK STRIPE CAR THE COWL AND FIREWALL WILL ALL BLEND TOGETHER ? [/ QUOTE ] no, because the firewall paint is NOT the same gloss as the stripe paint, the top of the cowl will appear shinier the firewall as the rest of the engine compartment & firewall paint is not the same as the gloss black they used on the exterior of the cars ... |
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This Olympic Gold car is a NORWOOD car:
[ QUOTE ] http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...nce/Zcowl2.jpg http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...nce/Zcowl3.jpg Tony Huntimer Camaro Performers Magazine [/ QUOTE ] |
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This Olympic Gold car is a NORWOOD car: Tony Huntimer Camaro Performers Magazine [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] then the Z11 you pictured is a Norwood car as well? I have owned over a dozen Z10/Z11's and I have never seen a Norwood car done any way other than your picture above. have not ever seen a Van Nuys car without the seam to seam cowl covered with stripe color, but then I have not looked at every single car ever built https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif |
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These are some shots from an 04D LOS special paint 68Z that was at Carlisle this year. Original paint and most components still on the car. Looks to me like the area under the cowl is all black gloss same as stripe color on this one as well.
Hope it helps. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif http://www.musclecarmediallc.com/posts/68Zfirewall.jpg http://www.musclecarmediallc.com/posts/68zcowl.jpg http://www.musclecarmediallc.com/posts/68zcowlb.jpg |
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Which after looking at your profile, turns out as being yours. Have a few others in my unrestored archive discs, will try and dig them up for you. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif
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The mcneish 67-68 Camaro book has several photos of original LA cowls in it.
Bob |
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Yes his book does and it shows that the cowl does not get painted from side to side. It shows the paint stopping well short of the pinch welds
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it is clear that they do though, so take his book with a grain of salt
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Someone has his mind made up. Very critical I will say PTB on a LOS car I think not
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Hey Jim,
Was that your Z11 in the pictures you posted? If so, do you have any close up pictures of the cowl before the restoration? Thanks! Tony Huntimer RaceHome.com |
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Also ironic all the pics of it clear across are quite shiny. Being lacquer paint and that GM never colour sanded this area makes me wonder .
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These have been posted B4, could not find the old thread.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1.../Z28cowl-1.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ike/c7fb_1.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...ke/CowlPNT.jpg The blue car is a Norwood car, and I think the orange car is a photo that Charley Lillard posted. This whole process of cowl paint was not consistant, paint the sucker how you like it.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif, and it was gloss laquer, and it did not have to be rubbed to be glossy, however it did not have that wet look like modern urethane. And after you done some of this is in order https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif |
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Never used,seen or heard of gloss lacquer . Huh
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Someone has his mind made up. Very critical I will say PTB on a LOS car I think not [/ QUOTE ] PTB is NOT correct on a VN car, that was already stated |
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Hey Jim, Was that your Z11 in the pictures you posted? If so, do you have any close up pictures of the cowl before the restoration? Thanks! Tony Huntimer RaceHome.com [/ QUOTE ] no, we did a lot of the cars in the late 70's & 80's never thought to take pictures of the steps but finding cars in bone yards it was ez to determine what the car was by the stripe color on the cowl of the VN cars (or lack of) |
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