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Chevy454 04-17-2009 07:31 PM

L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
Any of you L78/L71/L72/LS6, big block Chevy guys have any interest in a '143' blueprint camshaft? Immediate or otherwise??

Due to Crane's recent bankruptcy, we're looking into the feasibility of a high quality '143' camshaft to fill the void...whether it be for restoration or high performance [Pure Stock, street/strip, etc], this cam should fit the bill. Do a quick search on this site about the performance of the GM/Crane 143 camshaft, and you'll see why it's absence leaves a lot of us scrambling for a replacement...all so called 143 "blueprint" camshafts are not created equal!

I know a couple of guys are in the middle of engine builds as I type this, so if anyone else is gonna be needing one shortly, *please* send me a private message ASAP. But, if there is any other future interest, please reply...

<u>CONFIRMED - as of 4/28/2009</u>

<font color="red">
*Ken Tibor - cam + solids</font>
*Jeff Connor - 2 cams
*Greg Roberts - cam + edm
Peter Simpson - cam
*Dustin R Vine - 2 cams + 1 solid + 1 edm<font color="red">
*Dave McCutcheon - 2 cams + 1 solid + 1 edm</font>
*Nils Julin - 1 cam
*Jim Sullivan - 1 cam
*Greg Simmons - 1 cam
*Donnie Cornelis - 1 cam + solid
*Tom Howard - 1 cam
*Philip L Soucy - 1 cam + solid<font color="red">
Joseph Guerra - 1 cam + solid
*Ed Lis - 1 cam + edm</font>
*Grady Burch - 1 cam + solid
*Tony Wonch - 1 cam + edm
*Tony Ragla - 2 cams + 2 edms
Jim Weaver - 1 cam + solid
*Elon Block - 1 cam
Warren Friedrich - 1 cam + solid
Chris White - 6 cams + 2 edms
Jim Lerum - 1 cam

<font color="red">(NOTE: priority shipments are in RED</font>, confirmed payments denoted by *)

DarrenX33 04-17-2009 08:22 PM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
I'm assuming I'm a given.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

JLerum 04-17-2009 09:44 PM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'm assuming I'm a given.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

All right Darren, what's in the hopper this time?

Jim

Just to add to what Rob was discussing above about camshafts. We have Cam Doctored what has been "143" GM reproduction camshafts and they are different. We are talking about a lack of design and quality control in a nutshell.

Crane will not come back as they are in liquidation at this time. The thought of not being able to get the $130.00 to the door special that they once offered no longer is available. When you find something good we like to try keep it. That is why this thread was started.

DarrenX33 04-17-2009 09:46 PM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
I think you saw all the pieces in my garage when you were over.. That one is getting built. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

JRSully 04-17-2009 09:51 PM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
I will need a 143 somewhere down the line once I start the other L78, count me in SULLY

CamarosRus 04-17-2009 10:56 PM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
I'm interested and will send this thread to other 1970 L-78 owners at www.nastyz28.com

69Tom 04-17-2009 10:58 PM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
I'm pretty sure I'll need one for my '69 L72 as I'll be doing a rebuild at some point.

1968 nova ss 04-17-2009 11:53 PM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
rob, are you saying that another manufacturer may take up grinding a 143 dupilicate cam.the 396 /375 hp motor bottom ends is complete for the 68 nova ss ;waiting on the engine builder to finish the 842 aluminum heads/then we are off to the dyno.anyways you can count me in also.chris

Chevy454 04-18-2009 12:10 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft inter
 
[ QUOTE ]
rob, are you saying that another manufacturer may take up grinding a 143 dupilicate cam.

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Yessir, that's what I'm saying...at least if there's enough interest and we press the issue, anyway! We thought there would be some interest, but just wanted to do a quick "heat check" to make sure we didn't go through all the trouble just for the heck of it.

We can't divulge a lot of details until we officially get the ball rolling, but our objective is to have a no-fuss 143 replacement that you can put in, know it is what it is, and quit worrying about it.

Chuck, thanks for passing the word... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

1969z280 04-18-2009 12:34 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
Rob:

I'm in the middle of machining my L72 and just spent half the afternoon talking to my buddy about what camshaft we should use now that Crane is gone. I need one but I was hoping to find one on the shelf somewhere. Please let me know. The engine will be going back together in May. Ed https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

nrjulin 04-18-2009 01:05 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
I will need a couple in the near future.

Chevy454 04-18-2009 01:10 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft inter
 
Ok, we talked to the cam guys, and it looks like we're ready to rock! They're giving us a pretty darn good price [well below custom price], but the more folks we get on board the cheaper it's gonna be...so, I'm gonna do a running list of "confirmed buyers" in my the first post @ top of this thread...so all you guys that are ready to pony up please chime in. Rough guesstimate says they'll be ready in 2-3 weeks, and as of now I *believe* the price is $180, but that was for the minimum, so the more of you that holler the cheaper they'll get for everyone...

DarrenX33 04-18-2009 01:20 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft inter
 
Just got off the phone with Jim, pony for one. Say where and when and I'll send the $ Rod.

Thanks guys!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

69Tom 04-18-2009 02:07 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft inter
 
I'm in.

GenOne 04-18-2009 02:53 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft inter
 
In for a few -

Seattle Sam 04-18-2009 03:11 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
I would like to have a spare one. Or two.
-Sam

JoeG 04-18-2009 03:12 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft inter
 
If it's a mirror replacement in regard to GM specs.. I'm in...Thanks for the follow-up Rob............

bluel78 04-18-2009 03:47 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft inter
 
I would take two.
Dustin

MN 70L78 04-18-2009 03:55 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft inter
 
You can count me in for one.

kwhizz 04-18-2009 05:02 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft inter
 
I'll take one also.........

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

1969grb 04-18-2009 06:31 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft inter
 
Count me in also. Grady https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

L72Chevelle 04-18-2009 06:42 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft inter
 
Please count me in also for one. Thanks, Phil.

nuch_ss396 04-18-2009 07:16 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft inter
 
I need one as soon as you can get these.

Nuch

THNDER 04-18-2009 09:16 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
Rob, I just bought a Comp Cams 3863143 replacement cam for my L78. Specs all look to be identical to the GM cam. Part number is 11-106-3. What do you think? Are these not any good? Thanks Mike

70-SS/RS-L78 04-18-2009 11:21 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
Rob I am in for one, Thanks for the heads up on this Chuck....

TDW 04-18-2009 02:50 PM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
Rob...Are they going to be American made, using American cores? If so, I am in for 1.

Steven J 04-18-2009 03:37 PM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
I'm not in a hurry, but I would buy one to save for the future.

DarrenX33 04-18-2009 05:10 PM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Rob...Are they going to be American made, using American cores? If so, I am in for 1.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

Chevy454 04-18-2009 05:24 PM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Rob, I just bought a Comp Cams 3863143 replacement cam for my L78. Specs all look to be identical to the GM cam. Part number is 11-106-3. What do you think? Are these not any good? Thanks Mike

[/ QUOTE ]
As with the rest of the non-GM/Crane 143, the specs might *look* the same on paper, but the lobe is different...Jim proved this on a cam doctor. A few of us Pure Stock guys have tried other brands, and we all went back to the GM/Crane unit...

As Darren said above, this will be American made, and each one is gonna be held to super tight tolerances.

1969z280 04-18-2009 10:18 PM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
Rob:

I'm in for one. Ed

copo69 04-18-2009 11:18 PM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft inter
 
I'm in for one, too.

Nova Research Project 04-19-2009 04:52 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft inter
 
I am in for one as well.

Greg

Bergerz28 04-19-2009 07:20 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
Rob, count me in for one !! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

169indy 04-19-2009 08:52 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
I am interested also. Project lined up but not critical.

Thanks for spearheading this thing.
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Jim W.

markjohnson 04-19-2009 08:59 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
That really is an incredible camshaft and it's hard to believe that it debuted during the first year of the big block in 1965! Now I still have the original one I took out of my virgin LS-6 and it's stamped on the end 3904362. I guess they changed the part # in 1970. I've run high 11's with that camshaft. It's truly the musclecar camshaft where you could drive the car to work during the week and still turn very respectable times at the dragstrip come the weekend.

elonblock 04-19-2009 03:24 PM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
Count me in for one.

Thanks,

Elon

NEATSS 04-19-2009 10:36 PM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
Rob,

Put me down for 2. One needed very shortly and one for future.

Dave McCutcheon

67L78conv 04-20-2009 02:59 AM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
Count me in for one as well. Possibly more shortly will talk to a few people not on the board.

COPO PETE 04-20-2009 03:41 PM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
Two words............ "SHIP IT"

Chevy454 04-20-2009 07:50 PM

Re: L78/L71/L72/LS6 143 "blueprint" camshaft interest?
 
A couple of things:

1) those of you in the middle of engine builds &amp; needing your cams *yesterday*, PLEASE drop me a private message ASAP so we can get your cams out first.

2) also, would anyone be interested in a set of lifters to go along with their new cam? I know a few are gonna do their own thing for lifters, but thought I'd ask since they *could* be available to those so inclined.


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