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I have seen lots of stories but this one is the topper.

Somebody invite this boy to the SCR. He needs a lesson in manners https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...otes040109.DTL

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Man, a little carried away and way over the top!

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I think the SFC is one of the papers goin' under.......
No wonder, with this kind of progressive hysterical reporting .......sounds like Mark has sat on too many cucumbers....

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Like most of these people, they are working from at least 15 year old information. You wouldn't believe the transformation in the way the factories are run today. You don't do a quality job and you are going to hear about it and soon. If you haven't worked in one of these factories, you shouldn't be writing news articles about how they work, because you really don't know. Then again, a lot of these people don't much care about accuracy in their writings.

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Douche-bag ex-hippie, go buy a Vanagon and leave us alone.

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I'm with you Mark!

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I'm gonna go out on a limb, and guess that the author of the article is a "confirmed bachelor" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

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........ a lot of these people don't much care about accuracy in their writings.

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That's true in all sectors of the media.

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I'm gonna go out on a limb, and guess that the author of the article is a "confirmed bachelor" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif I have to agree!

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Judging from the success of news papers lately (Both of the big papers here the Tribune and Scum Times are bankrupt) I'm sure Marks 3 readers really make a difference. It's this kind of smug, Im better than everyone else attitude that has put another nail in the coffin..

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Id like to kick his teeth down his throat. What a POS. His mom probably peddles him to work in her basket on her 3 wheel bike.

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I'm gonna go out on a limb, and guess that the author of the article is a "confirmed bachelor" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

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Well said! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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That boy needs sex and a lot of it. He's nuttier than a snicker candy bar.

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...using big words doesn't always make a person sound intelligent...nor does using multiple words in a row that start with the same letter...case in point...

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The author's sesquipedalian proclivities belie his obvious anti-hetero tendencies. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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This guy swings like the porch rocker in a tornado. He is either a woman trapped in a mans body or he used to be a woman who hated men and is now a man who hates himself. Why he can't manage a genuine point in his article clearly states that his drivvle is only intended as entertainment for his few mentally distubed pals that buy this paper only for its ability to absorb dog piddle.

I am trying to be nice. [email protected]

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It's just another small example of the elitism that's plaguing this country. It's like all the talk of raising the gas tax to increase the total price back to $4 per gallon to "encourage" us to buy hybrids. Because, after all, all of us great unwashed are too stupid to make that decision for ourselves. If we continue to purchase our SUV's and musclecars, it's because we just don't understand that we're destroying the planet. Thank God we have intellectual powerhouses like this guy, as well as men like Al Gore and (cough) Neil Young, to set the rest of us morons straight. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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This boy should head back to his favorite gay bar and suck down a few stiff ones.

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Check out some of the comments…

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sfprogressive
3/31/2009 9:27:31 PM

The Camaro is a car that never should have come back. The only people that like Camaros are meth using losers with mullets. As a society we need to consurve resources and making a car with a big engine just so it can do burnouts is irresponsible and wasteful. Let's hope that the new GM CEO put in place by Obama will do the right thing and stop the Camaro (and Hummers andn SUVs),



marinhottubber
3/31/2009 9:55:29 PM

The thing I love about America is there will always be some guy to say "F you" to any effort to control the totally thoughtless wasteful excessive destruction of what's left of our planet and its resources. Go ahead boys and drool over the latest macho toy from Detroit. If they made a car that got one mile to the gallon, looked like a tank and ate people while it chewed the scenery, someone would buy it while raising his middle finger to the rest of us.



kooskia
3/31/2009 10:55:56 PM

The 69 Nova "hot rod" that I drove up here to S.F. from L.A to go to school in 19 -o- 78 was, in retrospect not very good. Solid rear axel, four near useless drum brakes, very unresponsive power steering (as in a dozen spins of the wheel to make a u turn). Recently I've rented a Mustang for work, and found it to be about the same performance quality, though a bit better here and there (less crude engineering but cheaper materials). So for the Camaro, no big whoop. I'm really hoping that Detroit at least gives us if not a super-panacea-mobile like the Prius, at least something that catches our imaginations (that also isn't just a chimera). Lastly, I don't know why MM included the Corvette in his list of infamy. As much as I don't like the styling, it has evolved and improved over the decades and is actually competitive. I even know some one who's family owns one and it has been confirmed (with reservations) that it is a "real" car...



agrainofsalt
3/31/2009 11:13:00 PM

Entertaining and thought provoking as usual. Thanks Mark. There will always be a market for the muscle car, if a person wants to pay for some American horsepower, who is anyone to judge? I do agree that it is irresponsible of Chevy to revive the Camaro. Eventually, enough of the population will convert to renewable energy for essentially everything.



artsounds
3/31/2009 11:28:22 PM

Why is GM even trying? I know very few people who own or would buy an American car. I've always bought Japanese cars because they are far superior to any car that America belches out.



Pizen
4/1/2009 6:51:53 AM

Let's look past the anti-choice posture assumed by MM and the class warfare rants posted by others that seem to stereotypically link the Camaro with mullets and meth. The basic premise of the column is (or at least should be) is that the new Camaro is a POS car, coming online at precisely the wrong time. I can understand GM wanting to challenge the Ford Mustang, which appears to be an overall better car, but to me the new Camaro is emblematic of GM's R&D problems. No foresight; no imagination; no verve (soul). End result - bankruptcy, or at least that where GM needs to be. Yeah, GM builds a few decent cars (case in point, the Corvette, which in terms of value has no competition), but the company's overall approach to development seems to be stuck in the '80s. It would be interesting to see if Jobs or Wozniak would be interested in the CEO position at GM - that would shake things up.



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and my favorite...

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obamalemming4/1/2009 9:06:22 AM
I don't see why you people think we need these big wasteful engines. They are so yesterday. I hope our wonderful president stops the manufacturing of these fossil fuel demons. I took my Smart Car to Lake Tahoe last month and it only took 22 hours.

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geez

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This boy should head back to his favorite gay bar and suck down a few stiff ones.

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Here's a letter to the editor from yesterday's Kansas City Star:

"It’s never been more apparent to me that the demise of the auto giant General Motors was caused by its executives’ failure to lead. All the while, the auto industry continued to bring to the public what they thought we needed in an automobile when it should have been the leader in providing an education and commitment to the future of ourselves and this planet.

It’s a wake-up call for all automobile manufacturers. They must be efficient and provide stewardship to the naïve public as to what transportation products should be. Quality without quantity, efficiency without gadgetry, and keeping our energy needs green and sustainable. It should come at an expense to both the executive and worker in compensation. No more rewarding poor stewardship.

There is plenty of demand for automobiles. The public just needs to be educated or coerced into making good decisions as to quality, fuel-efficiency and planet-saving choices. The new auto manufacturer needs to be the leader in teaching the public how to use transportation with these ideas in mind."

The emphasis is mine. I don't know how anyone else feels, but it scares the @#!% out of me to realize that there are lots of people in this country who feel same way as this loon.

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The problem with most of these guys is they have never got a chest ripping adrenaline rush out of having your pony go sideways at 80+. The closest they can get is some poser video game and a couch. Ask some of the supercross or "X" game guys, downhill ski racers, I bet they love the Camaro, or the surfer on the Red Bull commercials.

This guy that talks about his useless Nova seems to forget that back when that Nova was built there were only 3 channels on the TV and the 8 track was cutting tech. Real deep thinkers, yup were in trouble!!

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I don't understand why everybody is so fired up over this..like it's the first time they've ever read something that contradicts their own beliefs/interests. It's just one single lousy article out there that's never going to have a positive/negative impact on anything or any of us. Move on
JMO
Steve

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Now guys dont be so hard on the fell'a remember this is where he is coming from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAqPMJFaEdY

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Steve,

It's crazy guys like this that are steering the opinions of the young people in this country. Unless alternate opinions are expressed Guys like Mark have a greater influence than they should. If we remain silent on these issues the only opinions that will be heard are those of guys like Mark.

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I guess there's a chance of that. I just didn't feel like this guy had enough exposure from where he is, to change anybody's opinions really. I just read it again and it surely doesn't change mine!
Steve

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Now guys dont be so hard on the fell'a remember this is where he is coming from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAqPMJFaEdY

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Hey there's Charlie's Egg Car's cousin!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif

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CNN likes it....

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2009/auto...oney_topstories

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Steve,

It's crazy guys like this that are steering the opinions of the young people in this country. Unless alternate opinions are expressed Guys like Mark have a greater influence than they should. If we remain silent on these issues the only opinions that will be heard are those of guys like Mark.

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Exactly. It's deeper than this guy just trash talking the Camaro. You could go through the article and replace the word "Camaro" with "Purple Lawnmower", because the subject is really irrelevant. The real point of this article is that the public at large, including, obviously, all of us car guys, are too stupid to make "earth friendly" decisions, therefore, it's up to the more "enlightened" among us to guide the rest of us into the "correct" way of thinking. That's the kind of thinking that ends with all the neat old (and even some new) cars being stuck in a crusher, or having their engines removed and becoming static museum display pieces, never to move again. I don't care if this toolbox doesn't like the new Camaro. I do care that he's perpetuating the idea that I'm too dumb to think for myself.

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I agree. That is the reason that I titled the post as I did. The article is less about the Camaro and more about bashing America.

The green movement targeted the Camaro about 6 months ago for hit pieces just like this one - not because the car was something different (or more pollution emmiting than say a pick-up truck) but because the car was so good that it was likely to be sucessful in sales - thus all the "tools" were taken out by the far left to paint the car as excessive, worng for the times or a "throwback".

I am glad to see the replies here. The same loons were sucessful in convincing the government to regulate lightbulbs, so soon what kind of lightbulb you can buy (mid 2010) will be regulated to compact florcesent.

BTW... I hate compact florcesent's and am stockpiling standard light bulbs that I can use in my house after that ban kicks in.

They would love to get rid of the Camaro too but first they need to demonize, isolate, polarize, and attack the target. For some the next target is cars. The kinds that we like to drive. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

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WOW!!! That guy is a PORK SWORD!!His parents probably drove Aries K cars. He's never been violently thrown into a fish tail in a 68 z28 in a shift from 1st to 2nd and violently smashed in the seat from second to third and by 4th your hearts racing like a lab rat on crack you dont know if you want to stop and get out or do it again. his fondest memories are of his dad over revving the 4cyl. in the Kcar and dumping the clutch as he looks over at his son with that disappointed look on his face and knows he let hin down. And till this day out of jealousy the kid still hates musclecars and writes crap articles about them cause his dad wasnt man enough to have one. Thank god theres still guys left like us and our fathers who were willing to give us all the thrill of a burnout or revving the engine of a big block nova(like my dad had) that writer needs some counselling https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Bet some guy with a Camaro stole his girl back in HS.

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Bet some guy with a Camaro stole his girl back in HS.

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More likely a guy in a Sunbeam stole his boyfriend.

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More likely a guy in a Sunbeam stole his boyfriend.

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I think you're right...I found this pic of him on Facebook (see attachment...he's the one on the left) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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I think you're right...I found this pic of him on Facebook (see attachment...he's the one on the left) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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On another note, I wonder what these Green-types will be blogging when these hybrid vehicles need replacement high voltage batteries ($3000 - $5000) and the old batteries need to be disposed of.

They're much larger than a regular 12 volt battery and not as easy to dispose of.

I've handled one accident where a Prius high voltage battery case was breached, HAZMAT had to come out and clean up the spill.

All of a sudden, that Camaro isn't so bad.

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Think of it this way: news people write/cover stories tailored for their local audience. In San Fracisco this kind of "reporting" sells. In Alabama, for example, a reporter might say that the new Camaro is wonderful and that he (or she) can't wait to buy one. The SF "reporter" has succeeded in getting our attention and if he knew that a popular musclecar site was reacting negatively to his article he would probably be happy and think "mission accomplished." The one thing "reporters" like this guy is scared of is being ignored. That would be my suggestion: ignore this guy.