ZL-1 number ONE
 

.....is gonna be at the mecum spring auction in indy....

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Anyone know the assembly date of this car

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/show...e/0#Post392315

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12E I think

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If I remember correctly, that car had to be redone also as it had a fire while in the trailer...I remember I could have bought the burnt fender at a car show one year from the car. That must have been a fun paint match.
Correct me if I am wrong.

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There was no matching, complete repainted. The car was toast.

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------Yup!!!,,,Dont put car covers on your car while towing, even in an enclosed trailer. If I remember correctly, something happened to one trailer tire and it leaned over touching the side of the inner fender. Fender got so hot that it caught something on fire and that caught the cover on fire. Bill told me the story in detail a long time ago, so I hope I have it substantially correct. When he redid the car he did say that it came out better than the first time around........Bill S

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A leaf spring shackle broke, tire was rubbing on inner fender that had cardboard sitting on it. Cardboard caught fire. Bill has burn scars on his arms from the fire as he was saving the car.

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Quite a heroic act on Bill's part to save a piece of history. The car could have been easily lost forever and we'd be talking about how the Number #1 ZL-1 was restored and then burnt to the ground shortly afterwards being a great loss to the Supercar world. Thanks to Bill, that didn't happen. You could even say that he's saved that car three times: the first resto, putting the fire out, and then the second resto! I seen the car right after the fire and to this day, I can still remember the smell.

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Mr. Lillard did you own this car at one time?

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I wish I did but no. I bought the # 3 Berger car from Bill.

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Oh ok I thought I read at one time you had this one lol sorry.

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Does ZL1 Camaro #1 have its born with motor by any chance?

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I have no clue about the motor in this car, I doubt it since it was raced for years from day one. And I believe I remember reading that Porterfield found a replacement motor for the car. But ya never know as those motors have shown up after all these years and been reunited with the original cars in some cases.
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Dont think it matters too much on this car does it??

I was really wondering what the original motor of this car would be worth if in fact it happened to be found nowadays.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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My understanding is Porterfield found the orig block and re installed it in the car a short while before he sold it. Kinda makes you not want to beat on it like he used to when it didn't have it.

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Would be nice to hear the story on how the block was found.

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The block was found while I was composing the COPO article on the CRG site. Billy P told me the shop that prepped the original engine for racing stamped some information on it in an obscure location. Any original ZL-1 block warrants attention but a late '68 casting is really rare; only Fred Gibb and Billy P knew what was stamped on it.

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You're saying the original block was identified by the machinist stampings? I'm assuming the original stamping on the deck are gone and there is no partial vin on the side?

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Yes-not only what was stamped but where.

Some ZL-1 Camaro engines had the VIN derivative stamped on the pad.

http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/t...ZL152stamp.jpg

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Newcomer here,fwiw, Zl-1 number five had its derivative stamped on the vertical pad. The block was decked when I bought it.

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Newcomer here,fwiw, Zl-1 number five had its derivative stamped on the vertical pad. The block was decked when I bought it.

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Are you saying you bought the block or the the #5 car?? if the car it has some great history and we all would enjoy seeing it at the upcoming Supercar Reunion

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Was ZL-1 #5 Shay Nichols car? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

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I thought that car was listed a wrecked or totaled on the copo site.

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FYI- the number 34 original block has the VIN down below. The number 17 original block has the VIN on the top deck.

Also Ed C. listed any ZL-1 on his list that was unknown as 'wrecked' or 'destroyed' (I don't remember the exact word he used) if the car had not yet been discovered. In some cases that did not mean the car was necessarily actually wrecked or destroyed.