market value of 69 ZL1
 

what is the current range of market values of a real 69 zl1 these days. not a rebody example like on BJ.

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600-800K would be my guess.

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I thought this would fit this topic well. I'm curious what you think the value of my car would be..both the way it sits and if I restored it. It is the first green 4-speed - number 34. Purchased new at Govan's Chev. in Baltimore Maryland.
I have all Gibb paperwork and Maryland MSO w/ Govan Chev. documentation from original owner. Car has never been street driven or registered. I am second registered titled owner. I still have copy of title in original owner's name.. New title shows only 371 original miles.
Car was tubbed and raced back in the day and and body has been restored using all original body components from original car as possible. Bodywork was done by same bodyman that restored Jerry M.'s Old Reliable. Bodywork was done prior to my purchasing car and prior to availability of full repro floor and trunk sections therefore floor/tunnel and trunk sections were used from another original car to restore this car. Body is 95% but needs to be finished up ..mostly underneath. The car has recently been disassembled and placed on rotisserie.
Car has been recently documented by Jerry M. and he states as having original VIN, cowl tag and hidden serial number on dash. Jerry has known this car all of its life since it was in the showroom new.
This car is one of a very few with the "original" born-with Zl-1 motor that has been freshly rebuilt with almost all NOS parts. Dyno-time only. I do not have original 4-speed or BE rear. I do have most of the parts to finish. Probably missing 10k of the parts (weatherstrips,etc)needed to finish the car beside the trans. and rear. I am regretfully considering marketing the car soon if I do not get the time to start restoring it sooner than later. Thanks..I always appreciate the opinions of those here.

Also, how much does a restoration on one of these cars cost these days??? I like to do the work myself. But I've heard numbers all over the map!! I dont know if Id be better off sending the car out to have restored and then selling...??

Max

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I would venture to guess $400K-$500K based on the $480K sale of the Dave C's yellow one that sold last year...I don't think the market has gone up since then, but then again I don't participate in that price bracket and say "Charley knows best" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...arleySucks.gif

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Thanks.....Was that yellow car orig. motor? drivetrain?? 4 speed or auto? I assume it was restored?? just curious so to compare apples to apples

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Specs from the auction

Charley probably knows details on the car.

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Charley would certainly be regarded as a ZL-1 value expert given his long history and extensive knowledge of them. However that doesn't change the fact that
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The yellow one did not have the orig engine but it is out there. The yellow one also just changed hands in the range I mentioned. It was a great buy at the auction. Very nice car. M22 4 speed, spoilers, nice body to begin with.

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There are also exceptions. A nice orig paint ZL1 changed hands and that would be more dough. The RS ZL1 I'm told can be bought for 1.2 mil. If I had the dough I would own it.

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I felt the blue RS was a better buy than the yellow car...although they both seemed too cheap.

I'd take the blue RS also..........

if I had "Charley" money...hehe

Didn't I recently see that you bought a 67 Z that you are restoring?? and aren't you building a LS-9 pro tour Camaro??
If you sold a toy or two, you could probably own that car!!!

..just kiddin' Charley...thanks for your opinion and knowledge!!

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"Didn't I recently see that you bought a 67 Z that you are restoring?? and aren't you building a LS-9 pro tour Camaro??"

That and restoring a Hemi Challenger is why I have no dough.

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Then unload that 70 Z to me,before Dodge restorers raise their hourly this summer..

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Charley, trade the 57 chevy jet car for the ZL-1. Roger

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The yellow one can be had for 800K. Pretty cool being a M22 and one of two yellow ones built.

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The RS survivor ZL-1 has been quietly offered to all the high end collectors who would be prospective buyers as Charley said for an asking price of 1.2 million. However it has been almost one year and no one has agreed to pay that price so in my humble opinion I don't think that is the current market price?? I think the market price is closer to what was paid last year given we are in the great recession and perhaps heading into a minimal depression?

If that yellow ZL-1 Charley is referring to is Dave's old car it is a great, great car. I could care less if it doesn't have the original engine. All that means is it can be driven and enjoyed. Fantastic resto and rare color. Probably well worth close to the asking price. Surprised it can be bought so quickly after being purchased?

Charley's HEMI Challenger is a one of one car. Only one on planet with TA hood if I am not mistaken? That doesn't change the fact that........
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I never realized that there are only 2 Daytona Yellow '69 ZL-1's and both happened to be M-22 cars that survived. Kinds cool fact. I know that LeMans Blue '69 ZL-1 RS car gets talked about a lot, but the one that really does it for me is the #3 Daytona Yellow Berger car. That car being a double COPO, Berger heritage, great color, M-22, spoiler'ed and rally'ed up and mostly original is just awe-inspiring to even stand next to. Not a real big fan of '69 Camaro's, but to me at least, that car is the ultimate SUPERCAR.

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What I had heard on the 1.2 mil price was it had payment conditions that nobody is interested in meeting. Not so much the price but the conditions.

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IMO, you guys are forgetting *the* gem of the ZL-1 Camaro world...value-wise, who can top an original owner, with original drivetrain/metal/etc, with some pretty tasty national race history? And the thing can run low-10s in it's sleep...who could put a price on that! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

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Yes the # 15 car of Barnharts is right at the top but it is not one that should change hands. It should stay with him till he is sick of it and gives it to me...

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Mr. Barnhart HIMSELF is the greatest feature of his particular car and it would truly be a crime to separate him from that car. I NEVER wanna see that happen. The car is cool and all but it is just a cold piece of metal that can't talk and tell old racing stories like the old man can!

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I heard the same thing on the survivor ZL-1 payment terms.

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Wowwwwww..my car doesnt even compete with these cars....

The Blue RS...the #3 yellow Berger M-22 chambered exhaust car...the barnhart original owner car.....

...but I think that the Gibb # 1 car might actually bring the most.....?????

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I'm rollin' my pennies!!! That's a big napsack!!!

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Since I just realized there are ony two yellow ZL-1's, I seem to remember when I could have bought the yellow ZL-1 for 200k...It must be the same car since I know it wasn't the Berger car....that was about 10?? years ago I think...

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...and although I'm thrilled that i was lucky enough to have bought my car back when I did..(who knew??)...but the car that got away was the #25 HO car that was in my neighborhood all my life while I was growing up. I'm still friends with the prior owner...He tried to sell the car at the time for over 100k, but eventually I could have bought it for 69k. I already had my car and the now ex-wife would have never gone for it...I believe Camaro Specialties bought the car.The values really started going up soon after he sold it.

Although it was an automaticccc...Why did Fred Gibb do thattttttttt???? ayayay..I know why...I'm just saying..

...on the column??? was it really worth the few pounds to lose the console??

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The yellow one did not have the orig engine but it is out there.

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Where is it?? and why is it not with the car??

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The yellow one did not have the orig engine but it is out there.

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Where is it?? and why is it not with the car??

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The story on the original engine is somewhere in an old discussion I believe...I'd have to look.

Oh...and Charley...I'm going to buy Dave C. old yellow ZL-1 in 30 years so your job is to keep track of it for me till then! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Here's the old yellow ZL1 in central OH in the mid '70s

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The guy in the black t-shirt lives in Columbus, and drove and wrenched on the car. He let me copy his old photos.

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Wow!..really nice photos.

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Non-original motor in a raced-as-intended ZL1 is a small price to pay and it has great history and photos.

Nice photos Andy. Thanks! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Awesome pics...Thankss!!!!

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National Record Holder too!!! That car has some nice racing history also!!!

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Sure would like to find similar pics of my car!! Anyone?? Apparently it was black at one time early on and then when it was tubbed it was dark blue with a silver stripe down the sides and a glass nose with a "mailbox" scoop....It was basically match raced at Capitol Raceway and locally around Baltimore area in the 70's...check your old pics please!!!