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Jerry@CHP 11-29-2008 05:41 AM

1967 Z28 At The Dutch
 
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Here are some photos taken last month of our new 67 Z race car at the Dutch. Only Tahoe turquoise w/ parchment interior known to exist at this time. Missed setting the NHRA record by .080. Went a best of 10.64 at 124 mph, record was 10.56. Not bad for the second outing. Once I break the code on hooking this car, should be able to get the record in the Spring.

Jerry

Jerry@CHP 11-29-2008 05:43 AM

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Photo here.

JM

mockingbird812 11-29-2008 05:44 AM

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Nice shot Jerry. Your car looks GREAT! Good luck with the record! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Jerry@CHP 11-29-2008 05:48 AM

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Another shot......

m22mike 11-29-2008 03:58 PM

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Very neat Jerry https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

Tahoe turquoise.....double.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/drool.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/drool.gif

Mike https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

al8apex 11-29-2008 07:54 PM

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Here are some photos taken last month of our new 67 Z race car at the Dutch. Only Tahoe turquoise w/ parchment interior known to exist at this time. Missed setting the NHRA record by .080. Went a best of 10.64 at 124 mph, record was 10.56. Not bad for the second outing. Once I break the code on hooking this car, should be able to get the record in the Spring.

Jerry

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no disrespect meant and j/k but if the car were a tad lighter in the front (Non RS style) I think you would have found the .060 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

Jerry@CHP 11-29-2008 08:04 PM

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Actually the Racepak data logger is telling me that the car is not hooking well and has too much clutch. D/Stick Camaros should be 1.41-1.45 in 60 foot. There are no RS motors in the front. We can take them off the car as long as the doors can be operated manually and the headlights work. This is more of a clutch management issue and dialing in the adjustable shocks. 60 fts as of late are in the high 1.40s and low 1.50s.

Having a staggered shock rear axle in the 68 and 69 cars is a big advantage.......trust me. The Strickler '68 Z28 was always in the mid 1.40s in 60 ft.

Jerry

al8apex 11-29-2008 08:26 PM

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Actually the Racepak data logger is telling me that the car is not hooking well and has too much clutch. D/Stick Camaros should be 1.41-1.45 in 60 foot. There are no RS motors in the front. We can take them off the car as long as the doors can be operated manually and the headlights work. This is more of a clutch management issue and dialing in the adjustable shocks. 60 fts as of late are in the high 1.40s and low 1.50s.

Having a staggered shock rear axle in the 68 and 69 cars is a big advantage.......trust me. The Strickler '68 Z28 was always in the mid 1.40s in 60 ft.

Jerry

[/ QUOTE ] ok, those were the parts I was thinking were "excess" as far as weight goes ...

Jerry@CHP 11-29-2008 08:46 PM

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Jim,

Weight minimum is D/S is 3105 and I can put the car there if I want. It's all HP to weight ratios. Have been running the car a little heavy to help 50-50 the car. '67s are tough to get in the 50-50 weight zone. Car was 1345 lbs over the rear wheels last time we checked it on the scales.

Jerry

al8apex 11-29-2008 10:21 PM

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a little birdie told me over 3 decades ago that all the fast cars back then had the engines moved back "slightly" and the front sub frames, suspension, etc parts "dipped" and the resulting weight loss was "put back" as lead shot in the rear of the lower rockers just in front of the rear wheels ... now WHY the tech inspectors never bothered to weigh anything but the WHOLE car is beyond my simple mind ...

yes, a very high profile Camaro drag racer from the East/North Detroit suburb area (at least in the early 70's) ... no names as he is still involved in the "sport"

Salvatore 11-29-2008 10:44 PM

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The car looks as good as it runs! A few more small adjustments and I believe the car will be in the 10.50's range even in slightly bad air. One of the nicest and well engineered cars in the pits! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

Jerry@CHP 11-29-2008 11:55 PM

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Jim,

People were doing that years ago. Tony Pizzi comes to mind. He had the baddest 68 Z28 in the country.....and the rear bumper was filled with lead! Not as much today because you'll get wacked big time by NHRA and have your name and photo on the cover of National Dragster for flagrent violations.

NHRA does not check rear wheels on the scales, only the full weight of the car after qualifying runs. We were checking my new car to see where it is. Will be nearly impossible to make it 50-50 at D weight, maybe E weight as I would have to weigh 3260 lbs adding over 150 lbs to the weight of the car.

I didn't take the NOS metal on the new car and have it acid dipped. Just couldn't do it to that NOS GM sheet metal. All the mounts are in the stock location too.

In 2004, I got to go to the tear down barn at Indy for winning class at the 50th NHRA US Nationals. Believe me, that experience will get your attention. They check everything and even have sectioned factory cylinder heads on hand to check for acid ported heads.

Check out our link: http://www.z28camaro.com/race.html

Jerry

SuperNovaSS 12-01-2008 10:31 AM

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Jerry,


Thanks for taking the time to post.


Jason Booth

jl8z28 12-01-2008 07:31 PM

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Looking at some of the early photos of the car on your web site, I remember seeing the car on a trailer at Hat Machine.

Fast67VelleN2O 12-01-2008 09:40 PM

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http://www.z28camaro.com/img/P9031217.jpg

Why are some things written in red?

Jerry@CHP 12-02-2008 01:50 AM

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Red are the tolerances allowed by NHRA. That allows them to see the engine specs and write down everything in teardown to speed up the process. CC min is 61.2 and I was over at 61.7. Camshaft lift .485, actual lift on my cam was less.......482 and .477", etc.

Jerry

Andy 12-02-2008 04:16 AM

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Cool thread. Its awesome to see a 302 running that kind of E.T. Do you have any videos of the car going down the track? An incar video would be awesome.

Fast67VelleN2O 12-02-2008 09:03 AM

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Red are the tolerances allowed by NHRA. That allows them to see the engine specs and write down everything in teardown to speed up the process. CC min is 61.2 and I was over at 61.7. Camshaft lift .485, actual lift on my cam was less.......482 and .477", etc.

Jerry

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So is that cam card stating that you are allowed to run 292 angle plug heads?

Jerry@CHP 12-02-2008 10:56 PM

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Heads have to be stock production heads. 291s, 462s, 186s, etc. No angle plug heads allowed.

Jerry

Jerry@CHP 12-04-2008 05:22 PM

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Have some video of the new car at the Dutch. Mike Williams, one of my pit crew shot some. Just have to figure out how to down load it and make it available for all to see.

Jerry

Andy 12-04-2008 11:55 PM

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Have some video of the new car at the Dutch. Mike Williams, one of my pit crew shot some. Just have to figure out how to down load it and make it available for all to see.

Jerry

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you can upload it to www.photobucket.com. you will have to create an account first with a username and a password. its free. after you upload it, directly below the video, there will be a link that you can copy and paste to a forum thread so that others can see it. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif


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