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- - 67 GTO (https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=101981)

HERE ARE A FEW PICS OF MY GTO. IT IS A 67 WITH FACTORY RAM AIR WITH A TH400 AND A 433 POSI,

Very cool and welcome aboard! We need more photos of that bad boy. Color looks great. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Don't come across many 'o those - cool color, too!

Love It! Welcome.

Dan.

Well, they made about 700 cars like this, and most of them were sticks. That car will give a Hemi fits! Would be nice to see that race the Mopar, a W-30, and an L78 - who would win?

nice GOAT! looks sleeper like.

I always liked the GTO's dashes , they really finished off the car..I'm guessin this is a 400HO..... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif car

thanks guys, i will post a few more pics soon. i do race the car at the drags in the factory stock class, i have raced at great meadows,e town and gainesville, my best et to date is 13.789 @98 mph. very difficult to get traction with those skinny redlines and 433 rear,i dont even shift it just leave it in drive

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I always liked the GTO's dashes , they really finished off the car..I'm guessin this is a 400HO..... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif car

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With 4.33 gears, chances are you're wrong! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

Those old Ram Air motors can work pretty well. I had a '68 Ram Air automatic Firebird that was balanced and blueprinted and with the Royal Bobcat kit and headers. I ran a '68 L78 Chevelle and beat it by about a car length. Years later I found out that it wasn't an L78 at all but rather the guy had installed a 427. Made me smile. I like my Chevies but there are some other very nice street engines out there.

My friends brother had picked one up back then--red with a black vinyl roof...His was optioned with the High-Output 400HO engine(Ram Air) 400 turbo also with 433 gears ----Thought this might be a similar set-up....

Post some more photos when you get the chance........

There's a difference between a 400 HO and the Ram Air engine - they are two different motors. The only thing they shared was their hp rating.

ram air cars came with a 433 posi a ho car could be ordered with a number a different ratios,

this was taken in plant city fl bopc show

I understand about the engine ratings being the same on paper...........As far as I knew--it was a 400HO with a longer duration cam and valve train hardware , which made it a "Ram Air" engine
I did know my friends brother was constantly on the phone with factory reps.back then--he would always say the engine was being factory blueprinted. Don't know if that was actually the case,?? but the the car did sound nice and did run strong...Another buddy of mine had a 400HO with 391 gears/4speed and you could hear the difference in the engine lope...That Ram Air/433 was a real nice package... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif Photos and a very https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif classy ride..Your car brought back a lot a good memories

My buddy has a similar car but with a vinyl roof. same body color

From a GTO lover, that is a gorgeous car.

They made 156 ram air automatics. What plant was yours built at? What was the production date Dou you have the 670 or 997 heads?

Mike Mancini

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They made 156 ram air automatics. What plant was yours built at? What was the production date Dou you have the 670 or 997 heads?
my car was built 1st week of jan and was built it framingham plant,sold at maxon pontiac in nj, the heads are 670, i think 997 were made at the end of production year

That's cool, yes the 997's were later in the production run. I have a ram air auto 67 too. Built Sept 66 at the Baltimore plant. Tyrol blue w/ black vinyl top. Nice cars. I know bunch about those cars, so if you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Mike Mancini

thanks mike,
can you post a pic of your 67, would be great to see another one

Sure, I am in process of restoring it at my shop, here are a few shots.

underside before blackout

Trunk area, special OEM dk blue w/ grey fleck spatter paint application

factory overspray patterns duplicated exactly as documented upon disassembly....let me know if you guys want more detail shots.

Mike Mancini

Mike, Thanks for posting your informative and interesting photos.

1) Evidently the 67 GTO at that plant receieved TWO(red & then black)underfloor primers or was the red oxide extra on your part??????

2) Some shops paint the bottom first, do intentional body color overspray and then "bag" the bottom off at the pinch welds while painting the exterior. I'm interested to know if the GTO had body color spray on the underfloor ??? , and if so how/when will you apply it

3) What trunk spray paint product/process are you using ????
Do you regard this product as replicating the OEM look, or is it just "your" look ?????????

4) When you paint the body with doors on, have you cut in the door edges, bottom first ???? or do ALL door paint with doors installed????

5) Can you list brand/product name of primer, base coat, clear coat. Do you try to achieve an old school laquer look ??? or NEW car VERY SHINY look???????

6) Would like to see have rotator graabs back of body so as to allow room to paint ?????

Thanks,

Hi Chuck,

Thanks for the response. We tried to restore this car as true to the original process as possible. Extensive documentation of this particular car was done prior to any paint removal.
There were different color primer-surfacers used by the different plants. I have seen grey, red oxide and black.

When investigating the underside of this car, we revealed from outside-in 1)Black (blackout lacquer), some traces of Tyrol blue overspray surrounding edges of body, red oxide primer-surfacer and finally bare metal.
The vehicle was re-finished in this same sequence, from bare metal it was sprayed inside and out with red-oxide primer-surfacer and after final bodywork, it was given another coat of the red oxide primer-surfacer and then color. I use PPG products exclusivly and opted for 3 full coats of basecoat and then a 4th dusting of base. We then applied 4 coats of clear coat.
I should note that it took a good deal of work to achieve a correct representation of the factory tyrol blue. There were several hidden areas of perfect original paint on this car. We used these samples to achieve a perfect color match. If you order PPG Tyrol blue by code, it is not correct. Using a spectrophotometer, we analyzed the original paint samples and came up with a formula. When sprayed out, the color wasn't right. After several experiments of spraying over differnt color primers, we found that the paint was a dead match when applied over the factory red oxide primer. What you see is a true representation of factory Tyrol Blue.
While I do like the factory orange peel paint jobs, I really wanted this cars paint to be like glass. We wet sanded the car starting with 800, 1000, 1200, 2000, 2500 final.

At the factory this body would have gone through multiple stages in the paint department. After the bare metal body goes through the phosphating and prepping process, it is sprayed inside and out with primer surfacer. On this car that color was red oxide. The last step is the firewall and undercarriage blackout which is a lacquer product. The black you see is not a primer-surfacer.
You can see the process I followed was primer-surfacer, color and final blackout.
Prior to color, the bottom was not masked. The blue overspray over the red oxide occured during final paint. (although, it was masked prior to clear coating so as not to react with the blackout product)
I did post a pic showing the blue oversray on the undercarriage prior to blackout, maybe you missed it.
This car originally had a blue w/ grey spatter painti in the trunk. They do not make such a product and so we created this effect ourselves. It was a 2 step process. The final outcome looked just like the original spatter paint we documented.
I paint the body with the doors installed. I do not jamb the car first. We just spray a little base coat behind the hinges and then paint the door and jambs during the paint process.
The rotisserie out of the box created virtually no room for between the tail panel. We made extensions to allow sufficient room for body work and paint.

Let me know if you have any questions, happy to help.

Mike Mancini

Mike, thanks for the detail, interesting stuff and your work is impressive.

looks great, i wish i had taken the body off on mine but i only have a two car garage to work in, mine is a low mileage car with no rust so it didnt need alot but under my car isnt detailed the way i would like it,

It looks awesome. You should be proud of your work!

Thanks so much for the kind words. This stuff is a true passion, I love every bit of it. If anyone has any other questions about the car just ask.
Thanks again,
Mike Mancini