2 Yenkos and a ZL-1 at B-J
 

Gary Holub cars on Sat. Courageous!

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That's ONE word for it.

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Did you here this from Gary? I cant seem to find them on Barrett's site..are they listed anywhere on the net?

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Found it... Man he has Balls of Steel.

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That was something that was needed to be mentioned https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

Are we talking about cars or his personel life? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...thumbsdown.gif

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http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...tNumber=1277.1

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actually he has ( 5 ) Yenkos listed
..1981 Turbo Z28 Yenko
...1970 Yenko Deuce
...1969 Yenko Camaro ( Yellow automatic )
...1969 Yenko Camaro ( Green automatic )
...1969 ZL-1 Camaro
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Is this the car Chuck Sharin owned and raced?

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Yes Chuck used to own the car. He clearly explains his ownership of the #27 ZL1 in this post.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/show...0/fpart/1/vc/1

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You're right Rich. Maybe Charlie can delete my post.

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Hey...by any chance does anyone know if the GH car that is lot #1277 is the (vin) 614732 Friedley car? Description says it is the Hult car.....but just verifying.

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so B-J is advertising the car the same way as before? did this car sell since the prior auction?

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Remove mine too https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Here's the Yenko Turbo Z link:

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...LotNumber=1276

I believe that 81 Yenko Turbo Z is the one a lady in my old car club (Connecticut Cruisers) bought new back in Connecticut in 1981.

Anyone know the original owner's name? I think the husband's name was Lloyd Topping and the wife was Lisa??? The husband had the blown, red 69 Camaro on the right, at the time. He later painted it yellow, tubbed and prostreeted it. They divorced in the mid-eighties and I think both cars sold in the settlement.

In this photo it's the black car between the green Anglia and the red 67 GTX ragtop. My memory is getting fuzzy after 25 years but I think the white object in the grill was a hand-written sign on a piece of cardboard that someone stuck there as a joke just before the photo was taken.

Gotta be the same car since there couldn't have been too many black on black Yenko Turbo Z's produced and bought by "ladies back in the eighties."

(My car was the yellow 71 Cuda 383 ragtop on the left - I got it for free out of a junkyard when I lived in Colorado)

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3...uisers1983.jpg

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Is that a blown Pacer? Sick.. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Yup. It had a blown small block Chevy in it. I hung out with a sick crowd! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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That above B-J 2009 description is all screwed up, with many omissions and lies. Evey time I read this crap, i just get so infuriated. The below pictures show me racing the (repainted red) ZL-1, and the completely different bodied Multi-Colored car that still lives in Washington state.

The only thing that moved on was the OEM VIN tag.........

WE will never know the truth, who commissioned the green clone to be built. Will anybody send me a PM speaking if this is something Reggies business is capable of doing....????


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...lnationals.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...s/Image043.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...20pics/ZL1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...0pics/ZL1b.jpg

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The only thing that moved on was the OEM VIN tag.........




[/ QUOTE ] Why was #27 rebodied the second time?

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Yup. I hung out with a sick crowd! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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HUNG out??? arent you hangin around here alot??
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just kiddin guys https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

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Wow NJSteve, your photo brings back alot of good memories.

That picture must be at the Moroso plant in Guilford?? One of the better CT muscle car shows in the late 80's. I remember most of the cars in that picture, and have pictures of them too. I still see the 68 Bird in the picture "Highway Star" every once in awhile. I believe the Pacer had a big block in it.

I believe your correct on the owners name. If I remember correctly the husband later paint the 69 Camaro yellow and called it Top Bannana.

At the time, I had a 69 TA & 68 Firebird that I would bring to that show.


-Rick

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Good memory Rick!

The club used to have their summer show every year at the Moroso plant in Guilford, CT. The photo was actually taken at the Armstrong Rubber Headquarters at Long Wharf in New Haven. I think we all attended a show there at the time.

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Had a member email me and mention that the Silver Deuce for sale at B/J may be the same one talked about in this thread. Does anyone on here know for sure?


Silver Deuce

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If this car is a green ,auto,black vinyl roof and power steering? The vin # is 615704.

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Had a member email me and mention that the Silver Deuce for sale at B/J may be the same one talked about in this thread. Does anyone on here know for sure?


Silver Deuce

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..so is this the same car?? how can BJ advertise this car and the green ZL-1 with these "known" issues without disclosing??

Whats this ZL-1 actually worth?? Isnt the seller just gonna have problems when the winning bidder at BJ finds out "after the fact" about the car..(assuming there will still be those uninformed bidders)...

the car only bid to 315 last auction, so I assume the bidders knew it had these issues or it would have bid higher??

.....and still bid 315?? WOW!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif

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Another member has alerted me to the fact that the Green Yenko Camaro may be a rebody as well. Anyone got info on that car?



The Preston/Lawrence racecar is a neat piece, and one we almost owned. When at Cliff's looking to buy a Yenko Camaro from him, I narrwoed it down to the one we bought and that car. Of course at the time, no one knew is was the P/L racecar.

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The last comment is the reason I was trying to clarify if the RG Yenko was the Friedley car. I was not able to see the VIN to see if it is this car, but if it is...... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

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A silver ZL1 sold at BJ's a few years ago and the sign had rebody on it and a buyer bought it. I had to tell him after he kept telling me he had one of the Best ZL1's. After hearing this quite a few times. I laid the bomb on him and explained to him what a rebody is. He said he had experts working for him and they didnt notice the sign.
Some people dont have a problem with rebodies. Some people dont know what a REBODY means. I dont call a rebody when panels have been replaced. But when you take VIN Tags and #'s from another car to put on another car. REBODY !!
I had people still tell me that the car is still worth a lot of money. I disagree !! I wont sell one of those if I am aware of its history..
Example: A real ZL1 rolls over on the track,catches fire, everybody panel is shot. A sixbanger Camaro sitting next to it and you put ALL the tags and #'s on this car. Now its worth something ?? People I have met said Yes. I disagree !
Cars that have a lot of panel replacement but still have the #'s and tags: I call them bast^&d cars, they are worth REAL money but not the same as a original bodypanel cars.

Silver Deuce https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif
Green ZL1 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif
FG Yenko https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif


Just my 5 cents !!

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the car only bid to 315 last auction, so I assume the bidders knew it had these issues or it would have bid higher??

HOW REAL WAS THAT BID ??????? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

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A silver ZL1 sold at BJ's a few years ago and the sign had rebody on it and a buyer bought it. I had to tell him after he kept telling me he had one of the Best ZL1's. After hearing this quite a few times. I laid the bomb on him and explained to him what a rebody is. He said he had experts working for him and they didnt notice the sign.
Some people dont have a problem with rebodies. Some people dont know what a REBODY means. I dont call a rebody when panels have been replaced. But when you take VIN Tags and #'s from another car to put on another car. REBODY !!
I had people still tell me that the car is still worth a lot of money. I disagree !! I wont sell one of those if I am aware of its history..
Example: A real ZL1 rolls over on the track,catches fire, everybody panel is shot. A sixbanger Camaro sitting next to it and you put ALL the tags and #'s on this car. Now its worth something ?? People I have met said Yes. I disagree !
Cars that have a lot of panel replacement but still have the #'s and tags: I call them bast^&d cars, they are worth REAL money but not the same as a original bodypanel cars.


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Well put!
Peter

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The issue is disclosure of any and all cars that cross the BJ block & by reading what BJ written about the ZL1 it ain't hapnin'...yet. I'd bet that by auction time any issues will be out in the open for all bidders to digest. I don't think BJ will want to have cars ridiculed on various websites like the Rallye Green Z 28 was https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

Buyer Beware
 

I DONT blame the Auction house's !! BUYER BEWARE !!!
The are there to sell cars.. I tell my clients: People HIDE cars under the radar there.. You spend 200K-300K a million bucks and DONT check the car out !! Shame on them and they must have stupid money to burn. Make the car shiny(eyecandy) and say its real and that is it.
Feed these guys sh^t and tell them its steak and they are begging for more.
Do you think these buyers made their money running their business like that ?? NO
Shame on them to walk into a place and throw down the money like they do.. FISH ON !!!!
Its so funny that their is quite a few guys here that sell a LOT of cars at these auctions and NEVER chime in about this topic.. I would bet money that they ALL have played the game, once or twice..
I have sold a lot of cars(pedigree)and its never been about the money when it comes to selling GARBAGE or buying for a client.
I hang with these Vette guys and I ask them every year at the auction. How many good Vettes are here and they say about 3-5 cars. Thats pretty BAD in my eyes !!

Alright im going to stop HERE !!! Sorry I got a little wound up ! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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The auction house shouldn't have to investigate every car and every claim that calls into question the integrity of said car. They should make public what they know to be true. It's going to be pretty tough to get cars at no reserve that are all without blemishes on their histories. There are some great forums like this one that can be used by prospective buyers to gather info on cars they're interested in. Seems like lots of buyers are making purchase decisions on the fly. Maybe it's the cameras.

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Idea !! They could check out the "Star-Feature" cars.
They shouldnt have to check out every car but the cars that they make the show around. Now those could be "Authenticated" and that would have a BIG impact for the buyers. With a one liner still to protect themselves but show that they did some research on their Feature cars.

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Hey Phil, Check out lot #1010 Doesnt say nothing about'DOCS' What a cool car..Heres a prime example. If its real,it should do VERY WELL on any given day. Would do well in your collection. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Looks like the year of the convertibles!

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Of the three cars in question, and my biggest beef with B/J, is the ZL-1. The other cars do not adress sheetmetal issues, good or bad, but the ZL-1 does. Compared to what Chuck has posted on numerous occasions, a bunch of lies. I realize that B/J cannot inpect each and every car, but they can demand that any information provided by the seller is accurate. It is one thing for a buyer to get over jealous and miss details, but even the most cautious bidder could be taken in by mis-information.

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I got to give it to Gary. He is pretty up front about his ZL1 Camaro. I think he will have something on his car when the time comes. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

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So when is that time, when he cashes his check? Why not be upfront from the get go? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

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Rich,
That would be great addition if the docs were there but apparently aren't. I thought it was the one sold a couple years ago at Mecum but the description says it hasn't been offered before. Nice piece but without docs where does it fall?

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OOF !! Put out the red flags !! Color combo, 4 speed, and if its a real Stage 1. What a car if proven ! We will have fun watching this one and a few others.

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