1970 Nova engine VIN
 

Could someone tell me if there is a VIN stamped on a Nova block (396/402) like the Camaro's and it's location? By the oil filter, or on the flange where trans. bolts up?

I'm looking at a car to purchase and know how to decode pretty much everything, but not sure if there was a VIN stamped on the engine and where.

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For the Nova, I've only seen them up on the pad by the engine code in front of the passenger side head.

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Allen

Thank's for the info.

Vern Bauer

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I have a 1970 L78 Nova SS, 4-speed car if you need any photos or help.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...eStampings.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...n10W192535.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...teTII2ICKO.jpg

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Thank's for the info and help. I looked at the car tonite and pretty much everything checks out, but not sure about the engine stamp.

The build date of the car is 02C.......3rd week of Feb.
The engine stamp is T0616CKO which seems too far off from the build date. Not sure if it could possibly be 06 of 69?

Also, the 6 digit VIN is there slightly to the right and lower than the engine stamp and matches the cars VIN, but I did not see the 10W in front of it like yours. Not sure if they stamped that all the time or sometime just the 6 digit VIN? I may have missed it also, as it was getting dark and a little difficult to look around the alt.

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With a 3rd week of Feb build date, that would put the engine build date 8 months prior to the car. Don't believe that would ever happen.

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Here is an old photo showing how they were laid out on my pad.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...p10W192535.jpg

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My thoughts also. Ca'nt understand why someone would go to the effort of re stamping an engine and not make it correct.
Why restamp it 8 months prior to the build date of the car or 4 months after the build date if it is a 1970 built engine?

I know the two previous owners that have owned the car back to 1993 and ownership is known back to 1973. All previous owners say this is the original engine, not a replacement.
Wonder if anyone was restamping blocks prior to 1973?

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That's pretty much like this one except the 10W is not there, or I missed it. The numbers are a little smaller than the engine stamping.

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Check the build date on the block. That could answer it.

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Stranger stuff has happened with 70 L78 blocks and assembly dates, my 70 L78 Nova block was cast Jan 29 70, built April 24 and the car was built 2nd week May 70 and I have seen and documented a bunch of L78 blocks/dates etc in this date range. Check the cast date on the block (top rear) and check the heads (if they are there) should be 291's and check the casting dates. Don't sweat the VIN stamp, A LOT of them were not hit clean. Good luck

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Thank's. I'll do some more checking.

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Thank's, I'll do some more checking.

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The build date of the car is 02C.......3rd week of Feb.
The engine stamp is T0616CKO which seems too far off from the build date.


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Ca'nt understand why someone would go to the effort of re stamping an engine and not make it correct.
Why restamp it 8 months prior to the build date of the car or 4 months after the build date if it is a 1970 built engine?

I know the two previous owners that have owned the car back to 1993 and ownership is known back to 1973. All previous owners say this is the original engine, not a replacement.
Wonder if anyone was restamping blocks prior to 1973?


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Maybe someone just put the gang stamp together wrong? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Ca'nt understand why someone would go to the effort of re stamping an engine and not make it correct.
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Wonder if anyone was restamping blocks prior to 1973?

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Well....if you don't know what's 'correct', then it's real easy to get the stamp wrong https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif Guaranteed no one was restamping blocks prior to 1973 - or even 1983 for that matter.

It's highly unlikely that an engine built in mid June of 69 would have had the 3 letter suffix, because that was not started until very, very late in the 69 model year; probably some time in early July at the earliest. Then to have that engine sit around for 8 months until being installed in a car? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Put all these things together and I think there's good reason to be suspicious here.

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here is an early july original stamp still showing the two letter code

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Ca'nt understand why someone would go to the effort of re stamping an engine and not make it correct.
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Wonder if anyone was restamping blocks prior to 1973?

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Well....if you don't know what's 'correct', then it's real easy to get the stamp wrong https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif Guaranteed no one was restamping blocks prior to 1973 - or even 1983 for that matter.

It's highly unlikely that an engine built in mid June of 69 would have had the 3 letter suffix, because that was not started until very, very late in the 69 model year; probably some time in early July at the earliest. Then to have that engine sit around for 8 months until being installed in a car? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Put all these things together and I think there's good reason to be suspicious here.

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This is good info, as I did not realize this. Should pretty much rule out the engine being built in June of 69.
I'm going to get back over there and try to determine
the cast date on the block.

The guy is a good friend and we worked together for 15 years, so he is'nt intentionally trying to pull anything. He just is'nt into the numbers thing. Actually, I helped him when he purchased the car and that is the first time I noted the discrepancy. We both knew the previous owner to him very well. He owned the car for about 12 years before my friend bought it.

Thank's again for the help.