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Xplantdad 01-24-2007 05:26 AM

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I want to hear about the Merc. too !!!!!!!!!!

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I think this is the car he's talking about...

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...n_DSCF6911.jpg

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Charley Lillard 01-24-2007 05:28 AM

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Last year prices were sky high and people bitched about how high they were. This year they are lower and people are bitching about low they were. There are many people still out there that want a good car. There are many people that have looked on Ebay, in Hemmings etc that have traveled far and wide only to see the garage door open and see a totally misrepresented POS that they just wasted a days travel time and airfare on. With Barrett-Jackson I see guys like Galen Govier and Jerry MacNeish there at the auction looking at many different cars for customers. You can do alot of looking in one location and sift thru the crap in about 3 days. I have talked to alot of people that have been traveling off and on for a year looking for a good car only to find out we all have different interpretations of what a good car is. At Barrett-Jackson they are all in one spot and they are all for sale. Many are willing to pay extra in exchange for avoiding the wild goose chases.
Barrett-Jackson is a great place to broaden your horizon on cool cars. I fell in love with a 58 Desoto convert that I would never have even imagined I would like.

Xplantdad 01-24-2007 05:29 AM

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So did the Desoto come home with you...along with the 116 Corvettes? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Charley Lillard 01-24-2007 05:31 AM

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Nope.... If I would have had the dough I would have owned that 68 Yenko.

SUSQ 01-24-2007 06:03 AM

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I've never been to Barrett Jackson in Scottsdale as this time of year is always a busy time for me. I was considering attending the Palm Beach auction at some point as the timing works better for me. Looks like a much smaller venue where I could get a little closer to the action. Can't be a buyer at this point . .the kids are 9 & 11 and I'm buying college credits in advance. I buy till it hurts and then I buy some more. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone could do a compare and contrast of the two aution experiences.

I'll be out of town during the Palm Beach auction this year but plan to be there in 2008. I've vacationed in Palm Beach quite a few times and really enjoy it. Being an East Coast guy, I can have breakfast at home and lunch in Palm Beach.

TXSS 01-24-2007 06:14 AM

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Charley I know what you mean. Last year in Scottsdale I saw a Red 64 Riviera that I fell in love with. That's right a Riviera, who would have thunk. That thing was like a space ship inside and must have had 5000 lbs of chrome and stainless in the interior alone. That was one cool ride.

Paul D 01-24-2007 06:19 AM

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Another pic of the R-Code Mercury....quite a boat!

Paul D 01-24-2007 06:20 AM

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nice original interior

Paul D 01-24-2007 06:21 AM

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have receipt from the original owner buying this Ford tach from the dealer in 1964

Paul D 01-24-2007 06:22 AM

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check out that big factory TI box on the inner fender....

Xplantdad 01-24-2007 06:47 AM

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Cool stuff Paul https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Norm reynolds 01-24-2007 06:51 AM

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The whole thing come down to this Yes many seller Knew it was no reserve
BUT the Jackson Group told many of the seller Don’t worry We will work the car we are experts I guarantee you will get your money and may be more Problem is the
Guarantee was not in writing . and The way I see it and I have been around to long to see that this has started A very bad situation.. I have been jumping all over the web and I can say for a fact I have NEVER seen so many people pissed off at B/J If Craig wants to be bull headed and keep on have no reserve auctions 5 years form now we will not be seeing it on speed and it will be down hill from here
All the people here that thinks The no reserve is a good thing. Well Think of it like this You put your house up for sell . your are looking to get let say 300.000 for it BUT you have to sell it at a no reserve meaning if some one offers you a 150.000 you can not say no and you will be forced to sell it Does that Make any sense??? NO
Then Why should some one that has over 200.000 in a car and gets an offer for 75.000 and can not say no That’s NUTS
I really believe the whole no reserve mess will be history if not then we will see B/J will start to decline to
A slow death

L30M20 01-24-2007 07:13 AM

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she's warming up...

Mr70 01-24-2007 07:20 AM

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I watch Grin & Barrett every year,because it's a gamble either way and always great Theater.
If sellers want top dollar for their vehicles all the time,and buyers want to pay the smallest amount possible all the time,then the sellers should hold a public Raffle for their vehicles in their living rooms and broadcast it on youtube.

9SECONDYENKO 01-24-2007 07:36 AM

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I love my non numbers matching cars.

nuch_ss396 01-24-2007 07:41 AM

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I love my non numbers matching cars.

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9SECONDYENKO 01-24-2007 07:43 AM

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x100

Denis 01-24-2007 07:48 AM

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That darn Craig Jackson. He's such a bully. Word is he's lobbying with the city for a yearlong use of city land for ongoing auctions. Now, today, I find out he's got his own brand of beer in the stores:

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68l30 01-24-2007 07:49 AM

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Auctions are for liqudating your assets...period.Otherwise it's a huge gamble,take your chances.....Think about it.. If they were so great we would be going to auctions daily instead of shopping at stores.....Great for fire sales...Look at ebay...Is it the auction concept that is so much in demand? Heck no! It's because it's reaching a mass audiance with it's volume and ease..... Face it.. were lazy! ...Do your home work and buy smart..BJ is no different.


Steve https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif

Charley Lillard 01-24-2007 08:59 AM

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Norm I don't believe you can come up with one person that told you that Barrett-Jackson gave them a verbal gaurantee that they would get them their money. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

tom406 01-24-2007 09:02 AM

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That '66 Hemi Satellite is the real deal. I was walking through the big tent when I saw it, and I recognized it immediately. I then called my friend Gary (the Ford collector in Tacoma, WA, and previous owner) and said, "Hey, your Hemi Satellite is here!" He had no idea, and last he heard, one of the two guys who partnered to buy it decided to keep it for himself. Gary was watching the auction on TV, and was feeling a little sick, since after watching the '66 Coronet 4dr go for $600K, he was thinking that maybe this was the year for early Street Hemi cars to break the bank. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/crazy.gif

It was "predicted" to cross the block at 8pm on TV, but like many cars, it went much later in a largely vacant building, around 10:35 pm. I called Gary with the results of the auction, and he was both relieved (he did fine with his trade deal) and surprised (it is SO nice, you'd think it would do better).

I've spent hours looking at that car, and wrote up appraisals for it twice. It's so honest it hurts.

MacGruder owned it for a while-the original owner owned it and a Hemi Challenger with no miles as well, and MacGruder had both of them. When he liquidated, the Challenger sold quickly, but the Satellite was one of the last to go. Gary bought it, but had already bought a very nice 40K mile red/red '66 Hemi Satellite as his token Mopar. I guess the original owner put mags on it when new, but never drove/raced it. That's why the tires are repro, and the wheels and caps may not be original to the car. Otherwise, it is BRAND SPANKING NEW.

PM me if you'd like Gary's contact info, he'll be happy to know it went to a good home. He can be more specific with it's previous history as well. He's enjoying the GT, and still has around 30 vintage cars left, so he'll be fine.

I saw that Merc when I was in Minnesota a little while back. What a nice car. Knew his stuff, we talked about the history of the car, and about my 406 Galaxie, and the '64 Parklane Breezeway car I had bought from a friend in the same color combo.

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TOM BRESKE
Seattle, WA

PS-Thanks to Denis for having the brunch, Tony (Mr.T) for shuttling me around while my family had the rental car, Mark Hassett and Budnate for the rum'n'cokes courtesy of the bidder's bar, and anyone else I ran into on my trip. I still can't believe it SNOWED on Sunday, but Monday was very nice, and we just came back today. Renting the house worked out really well, much better than hotel living.

watk69 01-24-2007 09:22 AM

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That cat be me and when old man Barret was running the show 30's Mercedes, Packards, Duesenburgs, Ford T Birds, and early Mustangs ran the show. Back in the day Kruse was the king and BJ was still small potatoes. Collectors did not have a feel for muscle yet. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

BUIZILLA 01-24-2007 04:06 PM

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what's the purpose of putting the big SOLD sticker on the window after the sale, when it's obvious it's sold before it already hit's the platform???

mrrec 01-24-2007 04:58 PM

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what's the purpose of putting the big SOLD sticker on the window after the sale, when it's obvious it's sold before it already hit's the platform???

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HYPE. It ends the deal and shows SUCCESS! It's also a leftover from the reserve days when many cars didn't sell.......
Dave

Charley Lillard 01-24-2007 05:12 PM

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After the car is sold the sticker goes on. It is kind of a ceremony. It then gets parked back out with the other cars for sale. It is nice to know when you are sifting thru 1000 cars for sale which ones are already sold.

68l30 01-24-2007 05:15 PM

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The 66 Satelite was in a old issue of Musclecars.....It was a article ..."In search of the foor door Hemis".There were two in the mag,one red and one white....I believe the red one was missing it's engine and the white one was complete...I do remember the cars had a dash plaque from Dodge the read "Special made for..." If my memerory is correct the name on the red one was Floyd Crammer...I have the issue somewhere.......I need to start digging....

Steve

Rixls6 01-24-2007 05:24 PM

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My neighbor across the street from me at my last house, used to work as a new car salesman in the 60's and 70's for a Plymouth dealer.

One day while just yacking about old cars, he tells me about a Hemi powered 4-door Satellite that was delivered to his dealership by accident. I just wonder if it was one of those being discussed here.

Xplantdad 01-24-2007 05:50 PM

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After the car is sold the sticker goes on. It is kind of a ceremony. It then gets parked back out with the other cars for sale. It is nice to know when you are sifting thru 1000 cars for sale which ones are already sold.

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Hey Charley...in the best "Charley practical joke fashion" I almost took a few of those sold stickers...so that they could be conviently placed on a few peoples rental cars...LOL

The joke that you pulled on JIM was hilarious though https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Kim_Howie 01-24-2007 05:58 PM

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Gary Friar in Des Moines Ia bought a 4-door car in Minn. around 1989 -91 He bought the car from the guys wife The motor was out of it. I think the guys name was Pappy something I don't remember. I do remember Gary said he gave 10,000 for the car. Anybody know this car https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Steve Shauger 01-24-2007 06:07 PM

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The whole thing come down to this Yes many seller Knew it was no reserve
BUT the Jackson Group told many of the seller Don’t worry We will work the car we are experts I guarantee you will get your money and may be more Problem is the
Guarantee was not in writing . and The way I see it and I have been around to long to see that this has started A very bad situation.. I have been jumping all over the web and I can say for a fact I have NEVER seen so many people pissed off at B/J If Craig wants to be bull headed and keep on have no reserve auctions 5 years form now we will not be seeing it on speed and it will be down hill from here
All the people here that thinks The no reserve is a good thing. Well Think of it like this You put your house up for sell . your are looking to get let say 300.000 for it BUT you have to sell it at a no reserve meaning if some one offers you a 150.000 you can not say no and you will be forced to sell it Does that Make any sense??? NO
Then Why should some one that has over 200.000 in a car and gets an offer for 75.000 and can not say no That’s NUTS
I really believe the whole no reserve mess will be history if not then we will see B/J will start to decline to
A slow death

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All the sellers knew what they were getting into. With a no reserve auction there is an inherent risk. Many may have lost site of this since over the past several years tremendous profits have been realized (shame on them). It is interesting to note I have not seen a post from an actual seller bitching or whining about the out come of their particular sale. I do see a lot of finger pointing and bitching about the auction from spectators and TV watchers. Last year everyone(almost)were singing the praises of the auction... nothing really changed. We all make choices and if you choose not to participate in BJ so be it, but it is still the greatest show on earth.

If the no reserve auction process is not in the best interest of the sellers the market/sellers will find alternate venues to sell their cars. Lets not condemn the process that has work so successfully in the past, rather let the market define its merit.

GRB 01-24-2007 07:07 PM

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We all know (I hope) that the free mkt. is self-correcting. All we have to do is watch it.

HERE'S my question: Why would any seller resort to an auction unless he had already exhausted all other possibilities? Why not try Hemmings, Epay or whatever first? In fact to maximize your selling price just how would you make sure you got your car in front of the potentially very small pool of buyers?

Example - All buyers have different motives for buying whatever they buy. I have very personal memories of certain cars that would make them more valuable to me. A couple pretty good examples went across the BJ stage but I wasn't there. I couldn't bid. How could the owner have gotten that particular car in front of me? If we can answer that maybe we can start our own business.....let's see.... what would be a good name for this venture????

musclecarjohn 01-24-2007 10:05 PM

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Is it just me...

...or does anyone think the constant running of "Jackson-Hewitt" tax service commercials that are run everytime B-J is on the tube...is in anyway associated with Craig Jackson...? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Late BrakeU2 01-24-2007 11:01 PM

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Is it just me...

...or does anyone think the constant running of "Jackson-Hewitt" tax service commercials that are run everytime B-J is on the tube...is in anyway associated with Craig Jackson...? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Don't know for sure,but at the least it's subliminal in concept.Ad companies are hip the strong ratings the auction has been getting,and it's economical for SPEED as it fills the huge broadcasting gap between racing seasons.It's really a match made in heaven from a marketing standpoint for both and 40 hours of reality TV ads gets some hefty revenues.I'll bet two years ago the producers of SPEED bumped the coverage contingent upon them going no reserve ,the old format wasn't nearly as compelling for viewers imo

Mr70 01-25-2007 06:05 AM

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Do you guys know if a 10% sellers fee is now the norm for ALL B/J auctions,and did it just begin with their Scottsdale 07 auction?
Is Mecum,RM and R&S raising theirs as well?

Late BrakeU2 01-25-2007 06:41 AM

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I believe it was the first year for for the bump at BJ,and I think R&S was 7% no reserve and 10% for reserve auctions,but i might have that backwards.

Math wasn't my major but 10% of nothin beats 18% of your own car https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/ooo.gif

rubbinisracing 01-25-2007 08:38 AM

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I hope I never see another BMW X5 commercial!

mockingbird812 01-25-2007 10:11 AM

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Do you guys know if a 10% sellers fee is now the norm for ALL B/J auctions,and did it just begin with their Scottsdale 07 auction?
Is Mecum,RM and R&S raising theirs as well?

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R&S is 10% for seller and 10% for buyer on a reserve auction. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/crazy.gif

Canucklehead 01-26-2007 02:16 AM

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Lets not forget that if your an internet bidder, phone bidder or if a barrett member is bidding on your behalf the fee goes to 12%. Craig also charges you storage fee while the car is there.

Glenn J Coleman 01-29-2007 03:31 AM

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Nope.... If I would have had the dough I would have owned that 68 Yenko.

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That was Andy Wolf's car out of Indy. I haven't had the courage to talk to him since the auction. I know he turn down $300K prior to the auction. Needless to say, you can list him in the "Unhappy Seller" column.

I was scheduled to go, then backed out to take care of my folks in St Louis. I would have mortgaged my house to buy that car. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif Oh well..that's the auction business.

ps: I do know that he did not arrange the "buy back" procedure before the auction.

JIM 01-29-2007 09:56 AM

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Charlie got me !!!! It was all good !! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif


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