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67 442 03-04-2015 01:45 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Clutch plate and cover are after market. Factory used a diaphragm style cover.

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-04-2015 10:42 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 67 442</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Clutch plate and cover are after market. Factory used a diaphragm style cover. </div></div>

Ok, anything else look aftermarket?

Ryan

JpMotorsports 03-04-2015 01:43 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Very cool Ryan! Is there a ETA to get it running and driving?

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-04-2015 04:02 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JpMotorsports</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Very cool Ryan! Is there a ETA to get it running and driving? </div></div>

November 23rd, I will start this process, as I get more familiar with the car I will know if spring 2016 is attainable?

Ryan

Postsedan 03-04-2015 04:46 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
You need to educate yourself with the Olds experts and what the cost involved will be in a rebuilt running drive train. If your intent is to race the car in Pure Stock Drags....I strongly urge you to rebuild the other engine - leave the CE block on a stand in the garage....for later use. If you hurt it, where are you going to find another?

Olds engine rebuild and parts are much more expensive than a Chevy. Do it right the first time.

Dan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-04-2015 05:26 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You need to educate yourself with the Olds experts and what the cost involved will be in a rebuilt running drive train. If your intent is to race the car in Pure Stock Drags....I strongly urge you to rebuild the other engine - leave the CE block on a stand in the garage....for later use. If you hurt it, where are you going to find another?

Olds engine rebuild and parts are much more expensive than a Chevy. Do it right the first time.

Dan </div></div>

I am torn as I don't want to spend money on parts not originally for the car, but as you mention, I would hate to &quot;window&quot; the W31 warranty block:-)

I am more focused on being able to drive it than Race it. One idea I have is to prepare the warranty engine and if I decide to go PSMCDR racing maybe build the extra engine and transmission to risk in future.

Ryan

chevyman0429 03-04-2015 05:52 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You need to educate yourself with the Olds experts and what the cost involved will be in a rebuilt running drive train. If your intent is to race the car in Pure Stock Drags....I strongly urge you to rebuild the other engine - leave the CE block on a stand in the garage....for later use. If you hurt it, where are you going to find another?

Olds engine rebuild and parts are much more expensive than a Chevy. Do it right the first time.

Dan </div></div>

Boy did I have to learn this the hard way!

PeteLeathersac 03-04-2015 06:09 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

How far away from being made operable is the 'extra' engine?
As much as I understood from Al, this engine was supposed to be Ok so is it worth reassembling/made operable at low cost for now then put the real $ into the original warranty replacement #'s engine?
And what Pilot bearing is in either motor...both roller bearings?
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
~ Pete



Postsedan 03-04-2015 06:14 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
If not done correctly - you can damage (Window) either engine - same damage can occur on the street or at the drags :-(

*VERY IMPORTANT* - talk to the OLDs guys - pick their brains, learn from their mistakes :-)
Do it Right.

Dan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-04-2015 07:50 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
How far away from being made operable is the 'extra' engine?
As much as I understood from Al, this engine was supposed to be Ok so is it worth reassembling/made operable at low cost for now then put the real $ into the original warranty replacement #'s engine?
And what Pilot bearing is in either motor...both roller bearings?
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
~ Pete

That is another idea, to just fire up the used engine in it as is...(I prefer the idea of rebuilding it to ensure it is reliable)

I am not sure of the pilot bearings in either engine?

I understand your comment Dan....I will get the word! I do really want that real W31 motor in the car....

Ryan

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DW31S 03-04-2015 10:30 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Ryan, PLEASE take some advice here, my friend. DO NOT RACE THE ORIGINAL REPLACEMENT ENGINE!!! I can't stress this enough!!! What you have there is EXTREMELY RARE and VERY hard to find. If you wanna race.... GREAT, but DO NOT RACE THE &quot;GOOD&quot; ENGINE!!! Build another 1969 Olds 350 (like I did) and have your machine shop build you a nice set of #5 heads (like I did) and redo the replacement engine stock and just keep it. Remember what I said the very first time we spoke? Don't get rid of anything. W-31 stuff looks just like regular 1969 Olds parts, except for the carb and balancer (which you shouldn't race with either). Build the CE engine stock and use the balancer and carb (255)on THAT engine. Same goes for the trans. and rear if you can get dated (but not original to your car) parts. You have some VERY GOOD STUFF......DON'T BLOW IT UP!!!! Blow up the other parts!!!
Now, for some more advice.....talk to some of the guys that do the Pure Stock Drags, or the Super Car Series, or call me (don't want to really discuss finances on an open forum) and find out just what it takes to race.....often.......and competitively. You need to look at this with an open mind, and discuss it with your family (wife) first. It takes a WHOLE FREAKIN' LOT of TIME and MONEY to do it. &quot;Many get the itch, but few have the scratch&quot;.
I'm not trying to overwhelm you or scare you out of anything, but PLEASE don't race with your &quot;GOOD&quot; parts and consult with others as to the commitment it takes to race.
What you see on the surface at those races is NOT what you think it is. Much like an NHRA Stock/Super Stock, that kind of racing takes more thinking, spending, testing, spending, and then a lot more spending to be at the top of the ladder. Call me and we can discuss what my Oldsmobile friends and myself are running and what it takes to do it. &quot;It ain't easy&quot;.

Postsedan 03-04-2015 10:40 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Very Good advice Dave [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Yep...It`s a very expensive sport....and parts do break!

Dan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-04-2015 10:42 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Thanks guys for the advice!

I do listen (contrary to what The Mrs says) I will save the original items and prep the extra's for the street. I don't have any intentions of being competitive at PSMCDR. Just have to try it!

I will call one night so we can chat Oldsmobile again!

Ryan

PS: I love feedback and don't take offence to opinions differing from mine!

JpMotorsports 03-05-2015 02:09 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DW31S</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ryan, PLEASE take some advice here, my friend. DO NOT RACE THE ORIGINAL REPLACEMENT ENGINE!!! I can't stress this enough!!! What you have there is EXTREMELY RARE and VERY hard to find. If you wanna race.... GREAT, but DO NOT RACE THE &quot;GOOD&quot; ENGINE!!! Build another 1969 Olds 350 (like I did) and have your machine shop build you a nice set of #5 heads (like I did) and redo the replacement engine stock and just keep it. Remember what I said the very first time we spoke? Don't get rid of anything. W-31 stuff looks just like regular 1969 Olds parts, except for the carb and balancer (which you shouldn't race with either). Build the CE engine stock and use the balancer and carb (255)on THAT engine. Same goes for the trans. and rear if you can get dated (but not original to your car) parts. You have some VERY GOOD STUFF......DON'T BLOW IT UP!!!! Blow up the other parts!!!
Now, for some more advice.....talk to some of the guys that do the Pure Stock Drags, or the Super Car Series, or call me (don't want to really discuss finances on an open forum) and find out just what it takes to race.....often.......and competitively. You need to look at this with an open mind, and discuss it with your family (wife) first. It takes a WHOLE FREAKIN' LOT of TIME and MONEY to do it. &quot;Many get the itch, but few have the scratch&quot;.
I'm not trying to overwhelm you or scare you out of anything, but PLEASE don't race with your &quot;GOOD&quot; parts and consult with others as to the commitment it takes to race.
What you see on the surface at those races is NOT what you think it is. Much like an NHRA Stock/Super Stock, that kind of racing takes more thinking, spending, testing, spending, and then a lot more spending to be at the top of the ladder. Call me and we can discuss what my Oldsmobile friends and myself are running and what it takes to do it. &quot;It ain't easy&quot;. </div></div>


This is great advice not only for Ryan but anyone else looking to run their car

stritestoration 03-05-2015 06:33 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
x3 on the original engine part and racing. Attended the '01 pure stocks with a 70 stage 1. Auto car I was shifting myself...spun a bearing after an over rev. Guys were coming up to me asking if it was original engine and most stated they had theirs on the shelf at home.

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-05-2015 09:15 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
On the shelf it will stay.

Appreciate the experience!!

Ryan

Postsedan 03-05-2015 10:14 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Look at all the LOVE you are getting [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Dan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-05-2015 10:35 PM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif[/img]

Ryan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-06-2015 12:51 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
I need to figure out the extra transmission hopefully an M20!!!!

Ryan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-07-2015 12:29 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ryan,

Mailing you out a little something :-)

57-57 Glade Green

Enjoy [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ps9wi3y6on.png

Dan </div></div>

From : Postsedan
To: Ram Rod Ryan
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
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Postsedan 03-07-2015 12:30 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Finally! Enjoy [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Dan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-07-2015 12:36 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
What a thoughtful gift!!

Dan Vasic send me a vintage dealer brochure, to match my 1969 Oldsmobile:-)

The 57-57 Glade Green Club Coupe (which in the broche is called a Cutlass S Sports Coupe)

Lots of great info in there!

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Ryan1969Chevelle 03-07-2015 12:38 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
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Xplantdad 03-07-2015 12:43 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Very cool....now...make this your signature picture!

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...22439-ryan.jpg

Postsedan 03-07-2015 12:46 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
I can`t believe it took 12 days to arrive [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/thumbsdown.gif[/img]

Dan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-07-2015 12:46 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
I will check if those plates are available!

Only 251.66 Canadian dollars!!

Ryan

Postsedan 03-07-2015 12:47 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Bruce,

You`re such a tease [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

Dan

Xplantdad 03-07-2015 12:47 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Dan...it's all good buddy!!!

Postsedan 03-07-2015 12:48 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Dan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-07-2015 01:08 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can`t believe it took 12 days to arrive [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/thumbsdown.gif[/img]

Dan </div></div>

I was going to check the dates after I finish reading every caption in my new brochure!!

&quot;Why not order your 442 Spots Coupe with Force-Air Induction (W30) It crams cooler air into the carburetor and increases performance.Package includes largest factory air scoops in the business; special air cleaner; special heads and cam; special 2&quot; intake and 15/8 exhaust ports and special Dual Hood Stripes. Strictly for the man who has everything. &quot;

Ryan

XXXGoldL34M20 03-07-2015 03:24 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Awesome gift [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
Way to go Dan

Postsedan 03-07-2015 09:59 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Here is a nice Green '68, has all the trim.....but no B90.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ps6qajr6la.jpg

Dan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-07-2015 11:26 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Thanks Dan, she looks good!

I will have to ask Al about a dealership sticker or emblem? County Garage Ayr

Ryan

chevyman0429 03-07-2015 11:30 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Very very nice. I sure like the post cars without all that shiny stuff. That sure is a nice looking green.

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-08-2015 12:58 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Busy day today!

Bonus. Al told me the exhaust was three inch, but it is 2.5, thank goodness perfect for PSMCDR someday!

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Ryan1969Chevelle 03-08-2015 01:01 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 

Cleaned up and organized again today, more trips to the dump and the second hand store:-)

A new thing appeared.........floor space

Ryan


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XXXGoldL34M20 03-08-2015 01:03 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Ryan, I'll take some off those hockey sticks if there lefty's LOL

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-08-2015 01:06 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
I unloaded every miscellaneous box, and loaded up the cupboards I installed today:-)

The corner unit is upside down kind of on purpose, kind of shut up don't worry about it:-)

Ryan


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Ryan1969Chevelle 03-08-2015 01:08 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XXXBlackLs6M22</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ryan, I'll take some off those hockey sticks if there lefty's LOL </div></div>

Can you see that the guy who lived here before screwed the sticks to the upper shelf to hold stuff up:-(

They are freed of there torturous life:-)

Ryan

Ryan1969Chevelle 03-08-2015 01:10 AM

Re: Ryan Weaver's 1969 Olds Cutlass S W31 Club Coupe
 
Original heads need lots of work:-(

Manifold intake and exhausts should be the ones from the extra engine

Ryan


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