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Salvatore 11-24-2011 05:57 AM

Re: 1969 Chevelle L78 Monaco Orange
 
air bags worked well back then also. Some 50/50 shocks too.

mockingbird812 11-24-2011 06:00 AM

Re: 1969 Chevelle L78 Monaco Orange
 
The no-hop Lakewoods do not require drilling - they are bolted on as can be seen in the photo above. Another thing you can try is to change your rear bushings to polyurethane to minimize flex (not period correct though).

69 Post Sedan 11-24-2011 06:02 AM

Re: 1969 Chevelle L78 Monaco Orange
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My challenge with my Chevelle is that I had to eliminate wheelhop. Is there a way you guys got rid of that without a set of ladder bars or &quot;no-hop&quot; bars? </div></div>

With street tires.... I used a set of QA1 12 position adjustable shocks. I painted them black so they're not a noticable. That eliminated all wheelhop. When I switched to Mickey Thompson ET Street tires.....the wheelhop came back.

The bottom line it the upper control arms MUST be higher on the rearend then the body.

Hope that helps, Kurt

PxTx 11-24-2011 06:07 AM

Re: 1969 Chevelle L78 Monaco Orange
 
I would think an aluminum bushing would be an acceptable vintage option. The Lakewood bars I bought did require drilling the webbing. Checked the online instructions- note #8

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...1609_21610.pdf

I think even if you just tried to pinch the webbing, it would damage it similarly enough or more than the drilled hole.

mockingbird812 11-24-2011 06:11 AM

Re: 1969 Chevelle L78 Monaco Orange
 
As I understand it, the grippier that the tires are the further back the instant center needs to be (or the higher the rear contol arms need to be attached).

Salvatore 11-24-2011 01:46 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle L78 Monaco Orange
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pxtx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would think an aluminum bushing would be an acceptable vintage option. The Lakewood bars I bought did require drilling the webbing. Checked the online instructions- note #8

http://static.summitracing.com/globa...1609_21610.pdf

I think even if you just tried to pinch the webbing, it would damage it similarly enough or more than the drilled hole. </div></div>I used aluminum bushings in the 69 nova back in around 1972 so I would say yes. I think they were made or distributed by Moroso.

olredalert 11-24-2011 04:01 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle L78 Monaco Orange
 
----Sam,,,Instant center ideally should be app. right under the drivers seat to under his feet. Using the 70 Chevelle as an example, there actually is no instant center as the cars are delivered. The upper arms actually angle away from the lower, longer arms. Thats why theres tire hop. Hop-stop bars reorient the upper bars rear pivot point on the pumpkin upward to gain an instant center. Install them and hop should go away. Other stuff can probably mitigate wheel hop (air bags, etc.) but I think they are bandaids. If someone really wants to race with GMs midsize rear suspension, drill the holes. They can always get patched. Or get another housing. Really good 60 foots are out there waiting......Bill S

69L78 11-24-2011 04:23 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle L78 Monaco Orange
 
The Ram Air IV Gto from Harrisburg that was raced just had the air bags inside the springs.

mockingbird812 11-24-2011 05:47 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle L78 Monaco Orange
 
Thanks Bill. I did not know that the uppers and lowers actually diverge. I guess you would know a thing or two about racing 70 A bodies (LS6s to boot). [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/wink.gif[/img]


Good to see you at the show Bill!

69 Post Sedan 11-28-2011 03:27 AM

Re: 1969 Chevelle L78 Monaco Orange
 
Here are some more pictures of Jerry's car.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/100_6637.jpg

The original &quot;BA&quot; master cylinder.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/100_6639.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/100_6642.jpg

Factory runs.....

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/100_6643.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/100_6646.jpg

No black tail panel so Jerry did his own lace paint. There are 2 extra holes for the Dickhoff dealer emblem....which he still has.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/100_6645.jpg

If you look you can see a screw in the lower left corner of the body panel where the tail light goes. They messed the tail light up and used a screw to &quot;repair&quot; it.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/100_6647.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/100_6648.jpg

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/100_6647.jpg

Factory 6000 RPM tach.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/100_6649.jpg


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