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While watching the auction over the weekend and seeing all of the stars and people come forward to donate to worthy causes such as the CNN Hummer. This discussion came up with a friend. Craig and his crew did a great job of getting the most out of the bidders on these items. And bless them for being so generous. But wouldn't it have been nice to hear Craig or his president come forward and contribute, offer some sort of matching or donate commission on the sale? Perhaps he has contributed in ways that I am not aware of. If so I apologize, but he had one hell of a weekend ($). Would have been nice to see him step up. Kinda made me sick thinking about it... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Regarding the Motion car.. I love them but they just don't seem to do well at auction for some reason...

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Darren, I had heard the announcers say Craig donated or waved the commissions fees.

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Another one that surprised me was Oehlers Gibb Nova.....it was bid up to $230,000 at Spring Mecum and was a No Sale.......I heard he wanted $275,000 for it.......It Sold Saturday for $160,000 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif........Denis missed a good one.....a Perfect Restoration by Wayne Bushey

Ken https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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That one was a show stopper for me too Ken.
I would imagine John bought it back??..I know I would've.

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Ken, seems it makes a difference what type of car is sold where. At Mecum the majority of cars there were either muscle cars or race cars, which meant bidders there understoood, and appreciated, what they were bidding on.

On the other hand, BJ is a mix of everything.

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Plus Dana Mecum is a true car enthusiast that fully understands 20% commission and no reserve aint gonna work.

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...On the other hand, BJ is a mix of everything.

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when the piano came out, I thought the dog stepped on the remote !! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

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Darren, I had heard the announcers say Craig donated or waved the commissions fees.

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Got it. Guess it was easy to miss with all of us yellin'. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

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Id like to hear more about the WWF stuff.. I had vip access and heard a few guys talking that had some drinks in them and werent happy campers..cant really blame anyone unless they were promised something..

You guys might goof and big Paul but I dont think I want to tangle with him (he a pitbull with some big guns and a wild past) I actually got to talk with Paul Jr. he is one talented guy. Also meet Foose and Chuck Zito..

Zito was a very cool guy to talk to..definately another guy I wouldnt want to piss off, He has one of the best looking Gasser Style 57 Chevys Ive seen.. I tried to get him to sell it to me..No luck though.

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Darren, I had heard the announcers say Craig donated or waved the commissions fees.

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So he donated the commission fee on a charity item???? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif
Maybe he should have donated some of his own money!
Peter https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

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Here is a link to the Mopar site.. this could get interesting.


http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...;gonew=1#UNREAD

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Good point Pete! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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saw some deals that looked to good but hey I didn't know the machine maybe it was a crap rebody or what ever.

the '68 Hemi car with bike was a steal,

Motion Camaro and Red Alert had me scratching my head...and what was wrong with the Black Hemi car that went for 250?..multi award winner. pebble beach invite, Elvis inspected it and signed off saying she was a good one.

some others as well, overall the good cars went for market and if a guy was taking a leak and missed his car somebody got a fair buy.

I will say unless someone says different I was crying when the green Hemi clone car went across this morning for 72K...car looked good, they may still be working on getting the sellers heart going.... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

"Rock n Roll" BJ '08 or bust.......... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

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MAN!

It seems that the whole collector car market is up in arms
about this years B-J results. Craig must be crapping in
his pants right about now. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif They better hire James Carville
to sort this one out. It's all about the money - stupid! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Steve

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To me Barrett Jackson is an entertainment event. Everyone selling cars there took a risk and knew this up front. The risk for some out weighed the reward. Instead of focusing on the negative, look at the great deals that were found.

At this point many sellers/dealer will reevaluate the risk/ reward of a no reserve auction. I anticipate other competing auctions such as RM and Russo-Steele will rapidly expand due to sellers/dealers no longer wanting the risk associated with no reserve auctions.

Would I, or do I need to sell a car at an auction no. There are plenty of avenues to sell a car. If your car has true pedigree or is a well built resto-mod you should have infinite opportunities thru the internet or boards such as this.

It kinda made me laugh when a sale of the survivor 69 Z28 sold last year at BJ for $211K and many thought this was now the norm. One sale doesn't set the standard for all future sales.

Will I go to Barrett Jackson in the future, absolutely. It is amazing for its entertainment value, and lots of fun being with fellow enthusiasts.

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BINGO! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Great entertainment but kind of like Pinks, it could be so much more. As long as C.J., Stevie Wonder and the heathen band of screaming shills are involved it will always put off a stench. And I know Carroll Shelby hung the moon but his reputation ain't all that swell either. <----somebody had to say it!

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Not to change the subject but I must for a moment. Atleast the Buick camp is feeling pretty good that their (and mine) beloved Stage 1 GSX finally started to get some attention. 182K worth. This car was advertised as one of the best. That could be debated. But if your looking for a diamond in the rough. Start thinking Stage 1 cars! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

Patrick

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If you are going to spend a big pile of money at the BJ for your favourate car, all the while taking a chance on being
burnt like my buddy who purchased a 57 chevy last year for 125000. and when he took it home and inspected it on a hoist. The car was full of cheese. Why not buy a project car to restore with all the documents, and then you know whats in the car and its done right.
Peter

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Absolutely , I never met the man,Craig Jackson, but the show has almost turned into a farce. Kinda like the "Emperor's new clothes" if you remember that childrens story ?? A lot of Back slapping each other,20 % commisions and as others have pointed out , the quick sales to friends and the long drawn out sales for friends cars.As GRB and paceme said it's for entertainment only and I value the members here opinion and their cars as the real market.My opinion on BJ , it never was about the cars, maybe originally 20 yrs ago, but now it's all about the money $20.00 MM for a week's work on commisions plus the gate , product sales etc, that's all it's about. Gonna be some interesting in Florida come spring time. !!!!

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I will go back also but dont think it will be to sell.. They do put on a show and it is entertaining.. What burns me and alot of people I believe is the fact its alot about who you know. If you a movie star or rock star or just have a boat load of cash they stroke you to no end and make sure you car brings big money and give it all the time in the world on the block. Even worse for me was see all the BS bidding I personally saw 2 time right in front of me guys CLEARY BID (AND THEY KNEW THE PRICE) and then when there just about to drop the hammer they guys say I bid the amoun t below that??? what the heck that total BS and they let them out of it and the next bidder gets it. I wish I had my friend Billy Bob running up my auction and and then do the same thing at the end. This happened countless times Im sure it was seen on tv also. Worst of all nothing happens to these guys they should have got escorted off the property by the 3 GOONS.. All I can say was they was alot of BS going on. I dont think you can hold Craig Jackson or Steve Davis accountable for the prices because bidders are going to bid what they want and they have no control over that, and they did pack the place so there was no shortage of bidders.. I think mixing clones in with GOOD saturday cars was a HUGE mistake but what do I know. Everyone knows what there getting into before the auction so if you took a hit its pretty much your own fault unless they rushed you off because a STAR/RICH GUY was coming up behind you. The BS Bidding is going to HURT there name or whats left of it.

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Good point,but your right there is at least 3 or 4 sales I have on the speed channel tape that shows exactly that, guys bidding the car up and then when the real bidder stops , they back peddle like crazy......and they get away with it.

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More "re-counting" than I can ever remember happening.
Lot's of "short pull" bidding too makes you wonder.
Strange,strange stuff going on for sure.Great for the buyers but I sure wouldn't want to sell one there.

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Entertainment value! Wouldn't sell a car there!!

Put a fork in B-J. They're done. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif

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I am not sure about phone bidding as well. Are we to assume there is actually someone on the end of the phone actually bidding. I would like to know how this is monitored.

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IMO, the PR folks at B/J did their job. From what I have heard TV ratings were good, there is not a car site on the Internet that is not discussing the auction and it seemed a lot of folks attended, in spite of the poor weather conditions.

Same as NASCAR has become much more then just a stock car race, B/J is much more then just a car auction. With 40 hours of TV coverage, that is obvious. Few, if any of us would have tuned in for any length of time if all they did were roll cars across the block. No color announcers, the auctioneer out of site, showing no emotion, no celebrities or bidders being caught on camera, etc. Providing entertainment, which is what B/J has become, requires having drama. Need to have a couple of folks everyone likes, such as Amy, a couple most viewers dislike (the screaming dude) and a couple that you either love or hate (Craig maybe ?).

In an effort to keep things fresh, each year B/J tries new things. Some work, some do not. Doubt if we will see any Von Dutch stuff in ’08, but these items, plus the Rock and Roll stuff and the gravity racers did add spice to the mix.

For 2008 no doubt there will be a few changes, but I will venture a guess B/J will be even bigger and wilder, will remain a No Reserve auction and most of the 2007 staff on board.

Would I take a car there, don’t know. Will I tune in again next, absolutely, or better yet, attend in person.

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you are going to spend a big pile of money at the BJ for your favourate car, all the while taking a chance on being
burnt like my buddy who purchased a 57 chevy last year for 125000. and when he took it home and inspected it on a hoist. The car was full of cheese.

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you are going to spend a big pile of money at the BJ for your favourate car, all the while taking a chance on being
burnt like my buddy who purchased a 57 chevy last year for 125000. and when he took it home and inspected it on a hoist. The car was full of cheese.

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I agree, there is not much upside purchasing a car at an auction. It is difficult to inspect thoroughly, and your competing directly with other purchasers. Many buyers get caught up in the moment and pay above reasonable pricing. The seller is responsible for all incorrect information provided.

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In a perfect world there would be no shill bidding, no mis-representating a product, but we all know it happens, at all auctions. Some times it works, some times it does not, but the bottom line, it is part of the auction game. So, whether at B/J, on Ebay, at your local flea market, where ever, decide before hand what you are willing to pay, and stick to it.

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This year you had a ton of cars come out of the woodwork thinking about last years prices. The market hasn't dropped it just didn't increase by 30% as it has for the last 5 years. I think the field has leveled out. The Fords got there due this year. They increased and the Chevys didn't. Again if you don't like the way B/J is ran or showed don't watch or go. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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IF BY SOME CHANCE....anybody knows who got the red '02 Hot Rod maro and wants their $33k back let me know!! Is there any way to find out who bought what car???

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anyone know what the 69 blue chevelle L89 ragtop did money wise , and was it real/and or documented . I cant find anything on it.

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It went for $65,000. 71,500 with sales charges. The buyer told me the seller would not talk to him about documentation. He lost a some money on that car. It was a dealer out of FL.

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I believe that was a real car and sold at Mecums spring auction for about 265k. OUCH

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Carroll Shelby hung the moon but his reputation ain't all that swell either. <----somebody had to say it!

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Care to elaborate?

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I believe that was a real car and sold at Mecums spring auction for about 265k. OUCH

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I saw the car up close and it was a peach,can't remember if there was supporting docs.If it was all there that had to be one of if not the most attractive purchases of the event imo.

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I believe that was a real car and sold at Mecums spring auction for about 265k. OUCH

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I saw the tail end of the chevelle going across the block
and could not beleive the price it sold for.I thought it was a clown (oops) cloan.
PJ

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A few years ago there was alot of talk about foreign buyers going after some of these cars with big money and shipping the cars overseas to their new homes. Anyone know much about foreign investors in our collector car markets past or present? I ask because I don't hear anything of it these days.

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Carroll Shelby hung the moon but his reputation ain't all that swell either. <----somebody had to say it!

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Care to elaborate?

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I believe it was shortly after the boom started, maybe late 80's or early 90's CS claimed to have found 10 or so Cobra's or Shelby Mustangs in a warehouse that were never completed. I owned a '66 Shelby Must. at the time and was a member of the (just found my Shelby American World Registry hardback dated 1987) Shelby American Automobile Club. I recall that incident causing quiet a stink with these guys as it devalued (or would have) their cars and made their "hero" look like a first class crook.

I recall CS and the club being very close prior to that incident but you don't see the SAAC and CA arm in arm anymore. At least I don't.

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about the bidder assistants these people work on a commission just as the auctioneer so its there job to get friendly and do whatever it takes to make a big sale they only get this chance once a year to make that 5 mil sale so for some there whole year earnings depend on this sale you dont slap a waitress when she is friendly at a restaurant I hope

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They split all commissions and get a bonus for hitting a certain target in total sales.