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------Rick,,,Visited that museum after B/J this year. What a treat!!! All the guys there love to talk warbirds and have soooooo much knowledge. Great spare moment thing to do while at B/J..........Bill S

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That B-25 looks like the old "Dream Lover" that used to be based at Stockton.

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Rick,

I didn't know you enjoyed warbirds. Been my hidden desire since I first took a ride when I was 13 as a student pilot. I was going to enter either the aviation industry or healthcare when I was in high school, I chose the later. Wonder what would have happened if I had done the other? Here is what I think I would have ended up with instead of an old racecar. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

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Bill,
I am not positive on the "Ole Gray Mare" TB-25J as I was not given a list of names by my brother and was only going on sight and features of that airplane. The other three are for sures however. I also failed to mention (I think) the T-6 in the middle. Can't tell for sure if that is what it is.

Ken,
My passion for Warbirds is only one notch below the musclecars and that is only because they are way more expensive and not as easy to partake in. I grew up in a warbird household and flew 10 times more in Warbirds then I flew commercially by the time I was 20. I also helped the CAF restore the P-51C Red Tail several years ago before it crashed and that was 100% volunteer. When I was 15 my father was considering purchasing a P-51D for around $50k (if I recall). For what reason I have no idea as he certainly did not have the money to maintain or fly it. Incidently, they are now well over $1m!
Rick

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Rick,

That is neat, hope to see that '51 in the air again sometime. I've got a buddy up at MaryJane that is restoring the A25 for the USAF museum. I'm a 1/2 owner of a BT13 project, that I hope soon will be taking up alot of my time.

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I just called my brother in Phoenix. It is in fact "Ole Gray Mare" and is there for fabric recovering on all it's appendages. The "T-6" is actually an SNJ (similar). He also stated that of the 5 aircraft on the apron, he rewired 3 of them. Interestingly enough when I called him he was sitting in the cockpit of a Mig-17 replacing the transponder amongst other things.
Rick

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Ken,
I am pretty sure the P51C Red Tail is reaching completion on the re-restoration after the crash and death of Don Hinz.
P51C Red Tail
Rick

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Rick, here's the former "Dream Lover" that I confused with the B-25 your brother works on. "Dream Lover" is now named "Old Glory" and is still based at Stockton.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...DreamLover.jpg

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Amazing stuff...love those Warbirds too!.

Anyone else catch the story in this months 'Air Classics' or 'Warbirds' or whatever mag it was of American Thomas W. Kendall and his family's 'vacation' trip to Saudi-Arabia in his converted Catalina back in the early 60's?.
The whole story appeared in LIFE magazine back then but here's a link below w/ a brief outline of the story...pretty chilling tale also the pics of what's still left there are something too!.

http://uk.geocities.com/kendo1938/catalina.htm

~ Pete
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I have that magazine and it was a truly amazing story. Unbelievable that no one was killed with as much lead that was thrown at them. It is also amazing that the airplane has stayed there all these years and relatively intact.
Rick

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Yeah, I read that! Just a little vacation jaunt through the Middle East with the family in dad's WWII PBY-5A flying boat and the bastards start shooting at them! I suppose that was pretty naive of them, even in 1960, to go meandering through that part of the world.

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Changing the subject here. One of my favorite photos of the Thunderbirds: two F-105B Thunderchiefs cavort over their home base at Nellis AFB, NV in early 1964. Those were the days when jets had great names: Thunderchief, Sabre, Voodoo, Delta Dagger and Delta Dart, Starfighter, etc.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...sNellis643.jpg

The T-birds only flew a few shows in the "Thud" before one crashed at Hamilton AFB north of San Francisco in May '64. The Thud had to be heavily modified for the Thunderbirds maneuvers and one of them broke apart during the arrival show at Hamilton and the pilot was killed.

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Bill,

Makes you wonder why the Air Force would modify a
THUD for acrobatic service. Not my first choice https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

Didn't the Thunderbirds use F-100 Super Sabres for a while?

Steve

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Yes they did. See attached.
Rick

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I don't know much on the US aerobatic teams but do remember the forerunners to the Canadian Snowbirds group used the older F86 Sabres...the GoldenBirds or whatever they were called?.

An F-86 sits on a cement stand near our local zoo here in Peterboro' Canada also I looked and saw the F-80 Silver Star is still there on it's post in Collingwood as I went through last weekend..

There's still quite a few old aircraft stuck on posts here in Canada, mostly ex-RCAF jets left but I expect they'll soon start disappearing too as the Stormbird groups get going more and resto costs seem more feasible compared to the escalating values of prop-job airframes and parts?.

They pulled the Lancaster off it's Toronto waterfront post after 40 or so years a couple years back and it's being put through a resto although I believe to be a Museum display w/ an operating engine or more...similar to the Canadian Halifax that was completed as a static display piece here a year or so ago?.

Back to the aerobatic teams, what's the other US group called...the Blue Angels?. Here in Canada a 'Blue Angel' always referred to something completely different! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif.

~ Pete
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"don't know much on the US aerobatic teams but do remember the forerunners to the Canadian Snowbirds group used the older F86 Sabres...the GoldenBirds or whatever they were called?."


The Goldenhawks

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http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u...7/goldhaw3.jpg

just as a triva question does anyone know where this pic was taken?

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Somewhere near Niagra Falls?
BTW Say a prayer for the fallen Blue Angel who died at the Cherry Point Marine Air Station in South Carolina today.
Too early to say why he crashed.

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Australian air force F-111 makes a surprise high-speed pass over an airfield building during an airshow. The guy at upper-right appears to be in the shadow of the jet's nose.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...os/Low1111.jpg

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whoa !!!!!!!!! he gas to be cranking pretty good to have those wings in delta !!!

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Bill,

That Aardvark is a little too close, wouldn't you say!

I would love to be the guy up top on the tower. He probably got
the surprise of his life and one he probably won't forget.

Aardvarks used to buzz the water tower of the plastics plant
I used to work at in the early 1980's. Always scared the crap
out of us...... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

Awesome image! Thanks.

Steve

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Bob,

Look at the compressed air just above the leading edge of the
left wing. That's the first clue he's pushing it ......

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Saw that...looked back thru the thread ans saw that Mig or Su whatever 2 feet off the deck...thats crazy stuff too..

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Here's another F-111 image. Always like this. The RAAF call this the dump & burn. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/nuch_ss396/misc/1203206.jpg

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Another one!

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/nuch_ss396/misc/1200857.jpg

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I'd guess that the 111 is doing about 450-500 knots. The F-111 is a giant sled and it's favorite configuration is 500+ on the deck. Those Aussie guys are nuts down under and stuff like this is strictly routine at their airshows.

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Here's another F-111 image. Always like this. The RAAF call this the dump & burn. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/nuch_ss396/misc/1203206.jpg

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Steve, they call this "flicking their Bic" (remember Bic disposable lighters?) and USAF crews used to do it for us during night air refuelings (I flew KC-135s). It lights up the entire sky when done at night. They open the fuel dump valve and light the afterburners and WHOOOM!

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My Ex Wifes Grandfather was part of the crew in the B36 Peacemaker. He still flies today but the plane is much smaller (Cessna 152) but has told me quite a few times about flying in the 36. I used to go to quite a few airshows but they don't come to my area as often as they used to . While stationed at Redstone Arsenal in the 80's we had local ones on base that were great but also used to go to Courtland Alabama for large airshows until the old base was sold to Lockheed Martin. Dad wanted to be a Helicopter pilot but color blind guys like him (and me) were out on that deal... I like the vids you guys are posting and it made me think of something I hadn't seen in many years. As an Army Brat coming up in the 70's and 80's watching movies in theaters all over the world I remember well standing for the National Anthem and seeing our Flag in all theaters and remember that military trailer that preceded all previews. I remember seeing AAFES on everything back then. Can anyone find a video of those old theater trailers. Even our local TV stations quit showing the patriotic films before going off the air at 1 AM (they don't go off air anymore though, stupid infomercials).

Tommy https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

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I love this...


http://users.skynet.be/fa926657/files/B29.wmv

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This fella has some talent...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...2/P5032329.jpg

Today "MATS" is know as "AMC" or Air Mobility Command.

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Sam,

That's an awesome build on the Constellation. Just wonder
why he used 2-blade props instead of the 3-blade props.....

Steve

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Bart,

Great post! That is an impressive B-29 model.
The flight presentation was absolutely first class. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif

The Bell X-1 rocket plane launch was fantastic as well.
I have to give the owner/polot a big https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif for the
inverted flight portion of the flight. That's a gutsy call
for a plane this large and expensive. I'd like to see this
flight in person to really appreciate it.

Steve

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What he said! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/worship.gif
The best use of too much free time I've seen in a long time. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif
I found myself applauding when the announcer called for the crowd to give him a hand. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

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Drop Top Raptor

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=20396

$182,000 option

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That F-22 pilot looks like he's about 14. On a serious note, 182K for a canopy malfunction is far better than some other malfunction that could have resulted in loss of the airplane and/or pilot. In the old days (1950s especially) crashes of new fighters were common and many streets on Edwards AFB are named after dead test pilots.

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U.S.A.F. heritage flight of an f-16, an f-15, and a P-51 mustang https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/flag.gif

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Heritage flight on the taxi-way

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Mig-17f saved from Vietnam https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/shocked.gif and spent the last 4 years being restored https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/cool.gif