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Late BrakeU2 08-10-2009 08:21 PM

Re: Ca, Re-issuing Black Plates
 
It's not easy to define, so much going on at that time. The inversed blue base were being issued well in advance of the official 7/70 release date, and to compound the whole deal 69 camaro production was (i think) possibly the longest of any model, running from aug 68 to dec 69.

The build date wasn't as telling as the initial registration date. That car was built 12/23, but it could have sat on the lot for months. I have seen all original 69 camaros with blue base,in some cases they were late 69 builds,others weren't initially titled until well into 1970. My Z was a built 10-19, and first sold 11-30-68. I would guesstimate 90% of 68 MY cars were W or X alpha sequence, with a few early builds being V,and the bulk of 69's being Y & Z..a very few being X and on the backside a few blues sprinkled in. My 70 T/A was a VN build, sold 1 mile down the blvd at prestige pontiac in may 70 and was 163 BQT.

rpoz11 08-16-2009 08:28 PM

Re: Ca, Re-issuing Black Plates
 
California <font color="blue">BLUE</font> Plates....

Yes I agree with this statement.

I know the exact license plate info for my Camaro because I have it on some documents.

My car was built in Feb/March 1969 and didnt sell until 1970.

I am rather certain it sat on the showroom floor at a Porterville, California showroom.

The original owner verified what my Camaro came with when I found him and spoke with him.

He stated the 1970 purchase date.

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rpoz11 08-17-2009 02:28 AM

Re: Ca, Re-issuing Black Plates
 
Here is another example:

1969 Camaro LM1

VIN: 124379L511946




http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...maroXFM863.jpg

Late BrakeU2 08-17-2009 03:10 AM

Re: Ca, Re-issuing Black Plates
 
Interesting.. that car is some 5k units after mine,yet second character(F)is much earlier than mine(M).I would postulate this has something to do with the whole NorCal/So Cal series plates, of which I am clueless..
Noticed the Anchor tag,and Courtesy frames. Can't see the top but assuming it's San Jose as opposed to the San Diego dealership- they sold quite few cars to navy personel due to their proximity to the base.
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al8apex 08-17-2009 03:17 AM

Re: Ca, Re-issuing Black Plates
 
I believe that each office had a supply of plates to work with

"back east" you used to be able to tell what county the plates were issued from based on the prefix letters. I assume each office was given a large supply of plates to issue from and there must have been some sort of "regional" issuing office that serviced all the dealers in their "territory" that is why you will see some plates with a "later" letter prefix that may have been issued before and earlier prefix

best guess here

rpoz11 08-17-2009 03:25 AM

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I believe that each office had a supply of plates to work with

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Yes, I am sure that this is the case.

I'd go into local DMV offices around me, which there are several of, and they had drawers where the plates were in limited stacks; probably rotated and supplied in an as needed basis.

California is a large state, of course, and I can only assume that they were shipping boxes of these to DMV offices in no random order as they were being supplied.

Trying to get some general proximity to VIN/Build dates for those who locate plates they wish to reissue to their cars!
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427TJ 08-17-2009 07:01 AM

Re: Ca, Re-issuing Black Plates
 
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Noticed the Anchor tag,and Courtesy frames. Can't see the top but assuming it's San Jose as opposed to the San Diego dealership- they sold quite few cars to navy personel due to their proximity to the base.

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NAS Moffet Field was very close to San Jose so that's probably where that base sticker (anchor sticker) originated. NAS Alameda was the next closest base and it was next to Oakland--or perhaps Hunters Point Naval Shipyard over near Candlestick Park on the SF side.

rpoz11 08-17-2009 10:26 AM

Re: Ca, Re-issuing Black Plates
 
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Here is another example:

1969 Camaro LM1

VIN: 124379L511946




http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...maroXFM863.jpg

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Last Add:

Received this from the owner:

1969 Camaro LM1 option. TH350 trans, and 12 bolt multi leaf rear end.

LM1 Coding:

5LM1AA (This is a 255HP-350CI Build!)
5M40QA (TH-350 ? Transmission install.)
5F41AB (Special-Purpose Suspension)

This one states being sold on December 19'th, 1968.

12A build date on the COWL TAG and an F348 build date sequence.

I am GUESSING that the F represents December, and it's the 348'th unit built that month.

Funny thing, that my PaceCar is a G series and having a later Month build.

Tells me my Car was a slow build based upon the special order.

Late BrakeU2 08-17-2009 06:50 PM

Re: Ca, Re-issuing Black Plates
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Here is another example:

1969 Camaro LM1

VIN: 124379L511946




http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...maroXFM863.jpg

[/ QUOTE ]

Last Add:

Received this from the owner:

1969 Camaro LM1 option. TH350 trans, and 12 bolt multi leaf rear end.

LM1 Coding:

5LM1AA (This is a 255HP-350CI Build!)
5M40QA (TH-350 ? Transmission install.)
5F41AB (Special-Purpose Suspension)

This one states being sold on December 19'th, 1968.

12A build date on the COWL TAG and an F348 build date sequence.

I am GUESSING that the F represents December, and it's the 348'th unit built that month.

Funny thing, that my PaceCar is a G series and having a later Month build.

Tells me my Car was a slow build based upon the special order.

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Just a geuss,but I think the alpha code preceeding the three digit # on the trim tag represents the day of the month the body was built. That car is a 12A,"F" would be the 7th of the month. My car was a 10C,it's an "S" and that would equate to the 19th.

LM1,the poor man's COPO!

rpoz11 08-19-2009 06:26 PM

Re: Ca, Re-issuing Black Plates
 
I was referring in general terms on the F being in December of that month.

I didnt look it up, but I agree with you!


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