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It's interesting! There seems to be quite a lot of
emotional sentiment about this years auction. Someone asked about being bothered about Ford prices going up. More power to them. I hated the Ford guys growing up and went after them all the time. It was that "Genuine GM" thing! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif Well, we do eventually grow up and I even own a couple of Fords these days. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif The Chevy prices did seem to be down a bit. I'd like to know more about that. Is it saturation time for BBC's? Lastly, I'd personally like to know more about the behind the scenes goings-on that may have happened. Craig Jackson looked very stiff and uneasy last night. Anyone care to talk about what they may have seen or heard? Heresay isn't a problem so long as we know it is heresay...... Steve |
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....How about the older male assistant that kept grabbing the 6 year old son of a major bidder and kept hugging him and holding up for the crowd. Very creepy! It looked like a NAMBLA recruiting photo. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif [/ QUOTE ] Steve - That scene was unbelieveable! It looked to me like they (BJ et al.) would do anything to milk a stone. I can just imagine what was coming out of the assistants mouth at the time. The kids mom looked disgusted before finally taking her son away from him. |
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We were watching Barret Jackson...what were you watching ? [/ QUOTE ] That sums it up pretty well for me Belair. Everyone has thier own opinions based on what they want to believe . Many people want prices to drop so the "investors" will go back to the stock market and there will be more cars and cheaper prices for the "enthusiast" , the only problem with that is, is that the "enthusiast" will still only want to pay half of market price anyway, so most still wont ever buy a car https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif |
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Shelby's are always pretty strong. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif [/ QUOTE ] Guess I need to get the orginal owner out west of you to sell his 70 GT 500 thats all apart in his garage along with 2 garages full of Shelby parts then |
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Craig had some major duds. I'm sure he thought the Von Dutch Bus would have sold for at least a million. Some Von Dutch stuff sold for major money earlier this year. The music memorabilia went for almost nothing. The low mile Hemi Cuda's seemed like bargains.
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I think we all have a basic need to have our likes and dislikes validated by people we respect. That's just human nature. I can assure you I would prize certain cars far more than most of you.
For instance: I bought a barely used cream '67 GTO, auto and no a/c. $2,500.00 It came with the standard styled steel rims and redlines. My buddies called it a girly car back then but I loved that car. It was fun and had just enough power. I later put American ..... seems like they were the old bottle spokes (is that what we called them?) and with the redlines it was a beauty. If some other nut felt the same way I do and a perfect one rolled on the stage, and of course we would both have done our due diligence, the final selling price would probably shock the hell out you guys! It would hardly be a representative price for '67 GTO's though. |
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During the times that I have watched the BJ auction I've seen many of the big collectors from past years but, couldn't help but notice that "Ralph" (the big guy that was involved in the bidding war for the Future Liner last year with Ron Pratt) has not made an appearance. I guess that whole mix-up with the Future Liner last year didn't sit too well with him.
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Chris By no means was I making light of anyone with an eye problem and completely understand that sometimes you have no choice. I have seen videos of Steve with out the sunglasses and it appears his eyes are working properly. SSJunkie68-69 [/ QUOTE ] it was this remark; "never, absolutely NEVER, do business with anyone that won't take their sunglasses off, so you can't see the truth in their eyes...." |
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well, never mind my question on the 69 black boss 302. seems the guys over at the boss board have a grasp on it. http://www.boss302.com/board/viewthr...&TID=28923
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All I can add to this is that I have several customers that will step up and pay record prices today for NO BS FACTROY STAMPED FACTORY DOCUMENTED soild lifter big block corvettes. There are VERY FEW that come up in a venue like this. I know of many REAL cars but no one is willing to part with them beacuse the are almost impossible to replace.
I also have a customer who is looking for a 67 gt 500 boss 429 and boss 302 who will be paying a higher price because of this. So if the bubble has burst or has a slow leak...and anyone wants to sell thier 67 435 Corvette for 100,000.00 let me know I'll buy 10 of them today. This all boils down to the real cars will always bring very strong prices when selling It was just last year when B/J was setting record prices and evryone said who will pay these prices, that I posted about some of my customers that paid twice the going price of a restored for a car needing restoration ( but these cars had multiple pieces of factory documentation and born with drivetrains). Even when things change they still stay the same (if you know what I mean!) Rich |
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During the times that I have watched the BJ auction I've seen many of the big collectors from past years but, couldn't help but notice that "Ralph" (the big guy that was involved in the bidding war for the Future Liner last year with Ron Pratt) has not made an appearance. I guess that whole mix-up with the Future Liner last year didn't sit too well with him. [/ QUOTE ] They showed him on TV again this year and said that he was one fo the bidders on the futureliner last year. I think he was the high bidder on at least one of the hemi cars. He certainly kept a lower profile than last year. |
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Chris By no means was I making light of anyone with an eye problem and completely understand that sometimes you have no choice. I have seen videos of Steve with out the sunglasses and it appears his eyes are working properly. SSJunkie68-69 [/ QUOTE ] It's a Dracula thing: He's afraid you'll all see he has no soul. I also noticed that neither he nor Craig Jackson ever appeared standing next to a mirror. What are they afraid of?....I reviewed the entire 40 hours of tape and despite the fact they are standing next to hundreds of cars, you NEVER once see their reflection in the glass. ooooooooooh spooky I say https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif |
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Seeing Craig Jackson turn into a bat and flying away...now that would be great TV!
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I'm sorry but the guys doing the commentary on the 68 Impala SS427 convertible are clowns. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif. They are saying there were 68 Caprice SS convertibles with 4 speeds. Very rare. Ya show me one. Morons. These guys should learn a few things before talking about these cars on national TV. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
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Watching BJ and thinking its the true test of muscle car values, is like watching "The girls next door" and thinking Hefner is living the average bachelors life.
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King, stop, you're killing me! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif
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Values mean nothing to me. It's just a week long car show.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- L88, does anybody know this car? Were there some flaws, or was it bogus, 240 and very lackluster bidding raises a question in my mind. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve, that L88 while advertised to have its OM did not have its original stamp. The bidding was real and TM was on the car at 230K My take on the auction is that the market is becoming more selective and educated and will not open a blank checkbook for a car with issues. While I cannot speak for the e bodied mopars which seemed to down 50% vs last year I can speak for the 67 435 models and the L88 Corvettes. Prices for the 67s were down 20% vs last year but there was not one 435 car that I saw that had its original motor so while prices to the casual observer seem to be lower I believe that it is a reflection of the quality of cars that were present. I know of several recent sales of great 435s and three 69Lss that sold for huge$$$ so I believe that great cars are still selling for big money and will always bring big money. Also I think if the folks at BJ keep raising their commission rates and offer no reserve only auctions that the quality of their consignments will continue to plummett. IMHO Steve, People probably are more discriminating these days. I suppose there are exceptions to every rule because I remember when this thing was a pile of parts with only a few being original. Does it have even one major component today that it was born with? It is, I believe, the only L88 known to be delivered with power windows. http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/21/2...-l88-corvette/ Regards, Mark |
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My heart goes out to a lot of owners who put their heart and sole into their projects and did not even get close to their restoration costs back let alone the purchase price of the car they started with. Be interesting to see if the reserve comes back.
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I'm sorry but the guys doing the commentary on the 68 Impala SS427 convertible are clowns. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif. They are saying there were 68 Caprice SS convertibles with 4 speeds. Very rare. Ya show me one. Morons. These guys should learn a few things before talking about these cars on national TV. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif [/ QUOTE ] Andrew, Two years ago, I sent a rather lengthy e-mail to Craig Jackson via. the B-J website. I strongly suggested that they hire mfgr. specific knowledgeable commentators so each car could be better reviewed to the TV audience. Caprice SS! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif No offense to the current on-air staff, but most of these guys ask more questions than they answer. Maybe we are just too critical because we know some of these cars better. I'd like to see a Chevy expert, a Ford expert, Mopar expert, etc. if that could possibly be arranged. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif Steve |
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There is no drought that Crag Jackson will be forced to bring back the reserve
I would not want to be crag Jackson Last night He must of gotten ear full Yes you could see that a lot of cars did not make what the seller had in it Just look at the 68 Hemi Charger and the Theme bike of OCC If I remember right both sold for around 185.000 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gifI would bet they had that just in the bike I know it did not help when Paul senor said Dhoo dhoo it had spark plugs in the head doho aha it is really fast ah-ah rock in roll https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif should have kept his mouth shut |
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Norm,
If you are unfortunate enough to watch one of their shows, that is about the extent of his vocabulary. Oh yeah, F-this & F-that too. Forgot about those gems. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif Steve |
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No I have watched the show His oldest son Paul jr has a real good talent
The father all he does is sleep in his office and comes out every now and them screaming and yelling F this and F that He really slows his son down with his kiddy act I feel it was not his son being so good the father would still be welding fences And not have the money they have I all ways thought the father was a lazy moron |
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[ QUOTE ] I'm sorry but the guys doing the commentary on the 68 Impala SS427 convertible are clowns. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif. They are saying there were 68 Caprice SS convertibles with 4 speeds. Very rare. Ya show me one. Morons. These guys should learn a few things before talking about these cars on national TV. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif [/ QUOTE ] Andrew, Two years ago, I sent a rather lengthy e-mail to Craig Jackson via. the B-J website. I strongly suggested that they hire mfgr. specific knowledgeable commentators so each car could be better reviewed to the TV audience. Caprice SS! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif No offense to the current on-air staff, but most of these guys ask more questions than they answer. Maybe we are just too critical because we know some of these cars better. I'd like to see a Chevy expert, a Ford expert, Mopar expert, etc. if that could possibly be arranged. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif Steve [/ QUOTE ] Steve, I agree with your idea. I don't expect the commentators to know everything about every car that goes over the block but when they talk about a car being very rare that was never ever even produced I mean come on. Too funny. Maybe will see a 68 caprice ss convert 4 speed at next years BJ???? LOL. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif |
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Lighten up, guys. Most cars cross the block in less time than a commercial break takes. Re-read some of the posts complaining about missing a car being sold like that. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/tongue.gif
For some strange reason, I like the tag-team announcer idea. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif Considering how long those poor guys have to stand around babbling about all these different kinds of makes and models, it's hard to believe anybody could stay coherent for that many hours. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif As the Walrus said, Rock and Roll. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/headbang.gif |
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There is no drought that Crag Jackson will be forced to bring back the reserve [/ QUOTE ] It would be pointless to bring back the reserve and keep the current high commissions. They have to do both. they might even want to have a "buy it now" price for those who want to ensure they get the car before they can get outbid. My guess is if you are looking for a rare documented car or are selling one,you will go to Mecum, its going to be the new BJ. And no im not an expert, but i did sleep in a Holiday Inn Express last night. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif |
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Norm, If you are unfortunate enough to watch one of their shows, that is about the extent of his vocabulary. Oh yeah, F-this & F-that too. Forgot about those gems. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif Steve [/ QUOTE ] So by deleting the all-purpose (noun adjective verb pronoun adverb preposition.....) F WORD, the Walrus was rendered speechless? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif |
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[ QUOTE ] Norm, If you are unfortunate enough to watch one of their shows, that is about the extent of his vocabulary. Oh yeah, F-this & F-that too. Forgot about those gems. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif Steve [/ QUOTE ] So by deleting the all-purpose (noun adjective verb pronoun adverb preposition.....) F WORD, the Walrus was rendered speechless? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif [/ QUOTE ] That sums it up pretty good. He is a hammer wielding goon. |
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I know a few guys lost huge huge money last night.. Its the chance you take if your doing this for investment/job and most know that. What REALLY pisses me off is that the fact Craig himself was hyping up a couple cars saying they were good cars and extremely undervalued blah blah blah, when infact they were well known piles of crap! its all about who you know and how good of a blo* job you can give PERIOD. I saw a lot of shady stuff this weekend and really dont know if I personally will sell there again. It seems MONEY is the only thing that runs that circus 10% buyer commission this year?? when is enough enough?? I think you'll see Mecum steal the spot light coming up soon.. Much more of a TRUE HOBBIST and down to earth guy and..granted he makes money too but he isnt out to make you bleed like Barrett. There is NO way Barrett will ever see another QUALITY LEGIT car again valued at more than 250k unless they bring back the reserve..and even then I think this year left a very sour taste in the mouths of many. I cant wait to see Palm Beach.. Im sure glad I didnt consign anything there. Just think if you had a 600k car there and it only brought 400k to buy your own car back would be $72,000 that is insane and if you didnt do it you would lose 200k. That auction is hurting for next year unless they get smart or just sell junk.. Cars that blew my mind were
Motion Race car. OCC Charger/Bike Ohlers 71 Hemi Challenger 68 Yenko Camaro basically to many to list.. |
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I saw signs last year that looked like they were at their peak and starting to lose it. This year proves that BJ is not where you want to sell your car. R&S and Mecum will probably have a banner year after this fiasco. Watching them rush the BM Corvette across the block last year pointed out to me what was really going on. 18% commission to keep your own car explains it all.
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While watching the auction over the weekend and seeing all of the stars and people come forward to donate to worthy causes such as the CNN Hummer. This discussion came up with a friend. Craig and his crew did a great job of getting the most out of the bidders on these items. And bless them for being so generous. But wouldn't it have been nice to hear Craig or his president come forward and contribute, offer some sort of matching or donate commission on the sale? Perhaps he has contributed in ways that I am not aware of. If so I apologize, but he had one hell of a weekend ($). Would have been nice to see him step up. Kinda made me sick thinking about it... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif
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I should mention that although I dont agree with some ofthe stuff I saw and heard Craig does raise alot of money for some great charity's and also pulls if a few guys like Shelby and Edsel that also take in a great deal for there cause which is great. I had a fun time although the weather wasnt the best it was great meeting a few guys from the site and hanging out wit Bruce for the day..AND KICKING HIS BUTT IN GO KART RACING!! LOL.. Bruce close only counts in horse shoes buddie.. We'll definately have to go a second round in the near future..
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Andy...you're on! If you wouldn't have spun out and caused me to crash broadsided into you at 30mph...all you would have seen was the back of my cart! LOL As it was...all I needed was another lap https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/mad.gif
It was great hanging with you too, Andy. Now go home and hug both of your kids https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif Darren, Lynn and I had the same discussion, too...though the Childhelp Gala before B-J and various other functions that they don't ever talk about raise lots of $$$.... |
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Quick Bow tie that’s what I heard from some one last night
I know He was told in uncertain terms late last night that If he wants the high caliper cars and the owner/buyers to return He will be forced to return the reserve If not We can expect the B/J auction become nothing more Than breathing ground to Unload bogus / fake and anything goes type of car. Sad in a way he got to greedy This year there are a lot of unhappy campers that lost a lot of money with Crag Jackson Hell last night there was unloading pianos Guitars and in the end Sunday they are unloading soap box Debby type cars something I just did not want to see Don’t be surprised in the next few months there will be a lot a negativity written About this years show . if there is no change and if he is so bull headed about no reserve Then I think many people will just not even bother with it next year |
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By the way what happen behind the scène https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif late last night
Rumored has it looked like something from WWF https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif |
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Ok everyone, here you go, from the Official BJ site of cars listed and sales results: I took each car (69 Camaro) from the site, added and divided accordingly. There were 38 total 1969 Camaros listed on their site, the total sales price(s) of these 38 cars EXCLUDING COMMISIONS were $4,491,050.00 or AVERAGE price of $118,185.52. If you remove the Motion car (not roadable) and Reggies zl-1 the total for the 36 cars (38-2)is $88,641.66. I think both of these numbers are a fair average for what went through. Many were clones, and small block cars (z-28's ) Why are we worried about values anyway, it's just a HOBBY, right? The sky is not falling, chicken little............ Craig
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