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ss427copo 05-12-2014 05:46 AM

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This forum is the BEST. Now, many can use this technology to "track down" history on their cars. If our forum didn't exist, I may have never caught the attention of BWAG, a member here, who ordered, worked for and spent most of the time in "his" Camaro's seat when it represented Schmidt Chevrolet in Ohio. It nice to able to pick up the phone and chat with the original owner and find out things like what was the weather on the day of its delivery!!

Thanks Bob. You're the best.

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TAR6569 05-12-2014 02:59 PM

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Hopefully as a result of this service, some cars surface from dealers I have paperwork from!

MJR 05-12-2014 08:08 PM

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I received my NCRS document today and my 1970 Daytona Yellow Chevelle LS6 came from these guys:
Celozzi-Ettleson Chevrolet
Elmhurst, Il.
Zone 11 Dealer 108

Does anyone remember this car from this area/dealer?

I've talked to Mike Ettleson, the son of Maury Ettleson and he's going to ask some "old timers" if they remember the car.

THANK YOU NCRS & Roy for sending me in the right direction.



Michael

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68SSCamaro 05-12-2014 09:47 PM

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I received mine today.

My car was delivered to George Olsen Chevrolet in San Francisco.
Zone 6, Dealer 452

I think it spent some time in Modesto (radiator tag). Probably came down here to So Cal in the 1980's. I bought it in 1990.

Martin

Atuckman 05-12-2014 10:36 PM

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i was number 206/207. Just got mine in mail today. No surprises thankfully. Phew.

Great turnaround and invaluable service.
Thank you

TAR6569 05-12-2014 10:52 PM

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Chevy dealers in Elmhurst, ILL.

1966 it was Tom Edwards Chevrolet and in 1968 it was Zepelak Chevrolet.

Warren

Postsedan 05-12-2014 11:05 PM

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[quote=MJR]I received my NCRS document today and my 1970 Daytona Yellow Chevelle LS6 came from these guys:
Celozzi-Ettleson Chevrolet
Elmhurst, Il.
Zone 11 Dealer 108

Does anyone remember this car from this area/dealer?

I've talked to Mike Ettleson, the son of Maury Ettleson and he's going to ask some "old timers" if they remember the car.

THANK YOU NCRS & Roy for sending me in the right direction.



Michael

Michael,

Celozzi-Ettleson Chevrolet
Elmhurst, Il.
Zone 11 Dealer 108

Was in my home town.....it was a Great Dealership....remember it like it was yesterday..... a lot of great cars were SOLD from Celozzi-Ettleson Chevrolet. Including a lot of LS6`s.

I almost had the opportunity to restore your Chevelle....former owner had us (NOS Restoration) bid on a Frame-Off Restoration. I would have loved to have restored it.

Dan

MJR 05-12-2014 11:53 PM

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Dan,

Sent you an email.


Michael

Postsedan 05-13-2014 12:19 AM

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Michael,

Great talking with you [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Dan

Ryan1969Chevelle 05-13-2014 12:27 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Michael,

Great talking with you [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Dan </div></div>

Fun stuff.

Ryan

BLACKLS5 05-13-2014 12:41 AM

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Anyone familiar with Lang Chevrolet in Fairborn,Oh. Looks to be a on the outskirts of Dayton. My 69 L78 Chevelle was sold there. Known Hi-Performance dealer? Thanks for any insight. Troy

mockingbird812 05-13-2014 01:58 AM

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There is a Langs Chev. Still in business but is in Beavercreek about 15 mins from Fairborn. I think Mike Angelo's (m22mike) black '69 L78 Camaro came from Langs.

m22mike 05-13-2014 02:11 AM

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Yep it was...Sam, you ever run into anyone around there that knew that dealer ?

Mike

TAR6569 05-13-2014 02:47 AM

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There was &quot;The Lang Chevrolet Co, Xenia OH&quot; as well

m22mike 05-13-2014 11:27 AM

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Check out the links below. Dick Lang had a race history, in his blog page scroll down about half way and on the right side of the page is some history on Lang Chevy. A old dealership, looks like they started in Xenia Oh and moved to a new facility in 1953 in Fairborn Oh


Dick Lang / Lang Chevrolet

Dick Lang ZO6

<a href="http://www.racingsportscars.com/CarResults.aspx?

driver=dick-lang-usa" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dick Lang sports car races</a>

mockingbird812 05-13-2014 12:28 PM

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The Langs (with an &quot;s&quot; at the end) has been in business for 82 yrs according to their Web site.

MJR 05-13-2014 12:40 PM

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Dan,

Thanks for the call.

Wrong car, but still appreciate you taking the time to call me.


Michael

m22mike 05-13-2014 01:37 PM

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Sam
I would have to believe it is the same dealership, not sure why they now call it Langs.

Mike

BLACKLS5 05-13-2014 02:15 PM

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Mike, Thanks for the links. Looks like he was quite the accomplished racer. Interesting to say the least...

TAR6569 05-13-2014 03:07 PM

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I once had a protectoplate from a 65 Impala from the Lang in Xenia

mockingbird812 05-13-2014 08:32 PM

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I'll check it out and get back to you.

L78M22Rag 05-13-2014 11:19 PM

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Anyone familiar with Bill Stearns Chevrolet-Oldsmobile in Ladysmith, WI?
Dealer code 806 in zone 4.

snydes 05-14-2014 12:33 AM

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How about Thompson Chevrolet in Loveland Ohio? Haven't been able to dig up many references to this one so far.

roeville 05-14-2014 01:34 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: snydes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How about Thompson Chevrolet in Loveland Ohio? Haven't been able to dig up many references to this one so far. </div></div> I'm guessing you already saw this:
9-599 THOMPSON CHEVROLET 9666 LOVELAND MADERIA ROAD LOVELAND Ohio Unknown 1967 No longer in Busines THE NUMBER ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE STICKER UNDER CHEVROLET MOTOR DIVISION IS 807405

TAR6569 05-14-2014 01:41 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: snydes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How about Thompson Chevrolet in Loveland Ohio? Haven't been able to dig up many references to this one so far. </div></div>

I've seen 68 and 69 Impala pops from there.

Nothing on that WI dealer.

Warren

Steve Shauger 05-14-2014 02:37 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Drew Papsun</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I received mine today #32 &amp; 34 yes!!!!!, well sort of. I now have the zones, but the dealer info is limited.

Car 1 provided Zone 15 Dealer 339, but dealer name and address records are insufficient.. So if anyone has info on that zone and dealer it would be appreciated. Produced 9/8/69

My other car is zone 11 Dealer 372 and list dealer as Max Meyers Motors in Middlebury , IN. Now when I go to their data base and plug the #'s its show McManus Chevy, Chicago , IL 1970. Produced 4/2/69

I really appreciate the information, but for me the dealer info is inconclusive. Thanks again Roy, and good luck to others searching for dealer info.


BTW if anyone else has info on the zones listed above, I would appreciate that.

Hello Steve,
I have some information from 1977 of zone 15 dealer 339.
Jay Chevrolet
301 South Burntmill Road
Voorhees, NJ 08043
I can not tell you this is the same information for the year of 1969.
Regards,
Drew Papsun

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Drew, thank you I just received a second confirmation that my was delivered to Jay Chevrolet. Now I do feel like a 10 year old kid on Christmas morning. The search continues for me and all my fellow passionate enthusiast seeking delivery and ownership history on their cars.

My understanding is that zones and dealer # changed rather routinely for a variety of reason so its critical that you tie the delivery date with the zone and dealer information. A good example is my Indy Pace Car produced on 4/2/69 shipped to zone 11 Dealer 372, Max Meyers Chevrolet, IN and this same zone and dealer # changed in 1970 to McManus Cheverolet, IL. I'm learning like everyone else but it appears as zone reps changed and/or were promoted their territories changed which affected the zone and dealer #'s. </div></div>

I just spoke with the original owners son(I've been trying for 8 years). The car was in fact purchased new at McManus Chevrolet. The good news is he mentioned that he has original documentation and pictures from the day his dad brought it home. His father bought as a birthday present for his mom. Not sure the logic; who buys there wife (115lbs) a 396 4spd Indy Pace without power steering. The car only had 29K miles when they sold it in 1990 and now has 32K.

Steve Shauger 05-14-2014 02:50 AM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hvychev</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rixls6</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OK, now the car I really wanted the information on is my 1969 rs/z. I originally purchased it in 1977. Dealer 339 Zone 15. Someone must have a car purchased from this mysterious dealer. I purchased the car in the Cherry Hill, NJ area .</div></div>

I looked at many sheets from Baltimore built Chevelles, and all the zone 15 cars were dealers in NJ or PA, mostly PA. </div></div>

I just did a little research on McManus, looks like they changed quite a bit Gillespie, Kingdom. I'll pm to discuss further. </div></div>

Steve, here is a couple of pieces of McManus Chevrolet memorabilia from my collection. They were located at 6711 S. Western Ave. on Chicago's south side. They did NOT become Guillespe or Kingdom. Tony Piet Pontiac was located a block away at 6603-6637 S. Western Ave. Gullespe opened up at THAT location and when Guillespe closed down Kingdom opened there. So I guess those stores succeeded McManus' ticket but NOT the location.

The item on the bottom is a mirror visor thingie.

http://i.imgur.com/eXcjo40.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JnBvjdK.jpg </div></div>

Hi Frank, I appreciate the information you've provided. Do you know when they went out of business? Now I'm on a mission for memorabilia....

bergy 05-14-2014 10:32 AM

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These stories are great! NCRS efforts have opened up a new avenue of research - thanks again to Roy &amp; NCRS for their efforts!

olredalert 05-14-2014 02:49 PM

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----In the spring of 1967 I thought I wanted a new 67 Corvette to replace my 66. No one else including my banker felt the same as me, but I went on the hunt anyway. I was then a sophmore at Ohio U. For a couple of weeks I travelled all over southern Ohio to different Chevy dealers and one of them was Langs as I had heard they were a performance dealer, and they definetly were. Of course, I never managed to buy a 67 then, but I did see my first 396/375 67 Camaro. It was white with a black gut and had both headers and an extra complete 4:56 gearset in the trunk (right from the factory). Not one other option! Id love to know where that one went. That's when I figured they were right about Langs being a performance dealer. Well,,,that and about 15 Corvettes and other assorted Chevy muscle everywhere. Great, great dealership!!!!!!!!!.........Bill S

Stefano 05-14-2014 05:11 PM

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Have seen some very cool Solid lifter cars sold out of McManus.

Very recently a 1969 Impala SS L72 4 speed M21 with 3.73 posi, with original window sticker and original POP.

SMGCO 05-14-2014 05:51 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do we want to start a separate thread that people list their Zone-dealer info ? Not the car, just the zone info. </div></div>

Absolutely. That should help a lot.

Born30YrsLate 05-14-2014 05:53 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: L78M22Rag</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone familiar with Bill Stearns Chevrolet-Oldsmobile in Ladysmith, WI?
Dealer code 806 in zone 4.</div></div>
Hey Helmut...I have a friend who is from that part of Wiscy...I'll see what I can find out...

SMGCO 05-14-2014 05:55 PM

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Anybody know where Zone 20 is ?

And or Dealer 140 ?

69hurstSC 05-14-2014 05:58 PM

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That sounds like a bitchin ride [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have seen some very cool Solid lifter cars sold out of McManus.

Very recently a 1969 Impala SS L72 4 speed M21 with 3.73 posi, with original window sticker and original POP. </div></div>

Steve Shauger 05-14-2014 06:27 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SMGCO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anybody know where Zone 20 is ?

And or Dealer 140 ? </div></div>

In 1985 its was listed as:

20

140

CROSSROADS CHEVROLET INC

5430 LANKERSHIM BLVD

NORTH HOLLYWOOD

California

91601

1985

BLACKLS5 05-14-2014 08:33 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----In the spring of 1967 I thought I wanted a new 67 Corvette to replace my 66. No one else including my banker felt the same as me, but I went on the hunt anyway. I was then a sophmore at Ohio U. For a couple of weeks I travelled all over southern Ohio to different Chevy dealers and one of them was Langs as I had heard they were a performance dealer, and they definetly were. Of course, I never managed to buy a 67 then, but I did see my first 396/375 67 Camaro. It was white with a black gut and had both headers and an extra complete 4:56 gearset in the trunk (right from the factory). Not one other option! Id love to know where that one went. That's when I figured they were right about Langs being a performance dealer. Well,,,that and about 15 Corvettes and other assorted Chevy muscle everywhere. Great, great dealership!!!!!!!!!.........Bill S </div></div>

Cool story Bill... Was it common for guys your age to be hunting new Corvettes? I must have been focusing my attention at the wrong things when I was younger.LOL

Tommy 05-14-2014 08:54 PM

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Well, I got my email today and notice of my refund. No information was found on my Nova. I do appreciate them trying though.

My 68 is an 07B built Nova. Bad place for that gap to be in on 68 Novas.


Tommy

YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY 05-14-2014 08:56 PM

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I'm hearing about this trend, I will be beyond bummed if I get the same.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/eek.gif[/img]

TAR6569 05-14-2014 10:19 PM

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stefano</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have seen some very cool Solid lifter cars sold out of McManus.

Very recently a 1969 Impala SS L72 4 speed M21 with 3.73 posi, with original window sticker and original POP. </div></div>

Got any more details on that Impala. I'm not familiar with that one.

Born30YrsLate 05-15-2014 12:47 AM

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Got mine on the Bumblebee COPO...matches the NICB report and reaffirms owner history back to the guy that ordered the car...dealership owner's son who is still around.
Fresch Chevrolet-Oldsmobile-Cadillac, Inc
Dealer Code 209 zone 9
London, OH

Looks like I'll be having a 45th birthday party on 9/23 for the car this year.

If anyone comes across anything from this dealer please contact me!

Many thanks to all who were involved in making this happen!



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