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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Craig_Maiorana</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would have to think that on more than a few occasions a factory anomaly managed to slip by the inspectors and make it to a customer. </div></div>



Like the 1 of 1 Factory L-89 Nova...........LOL

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If the car is mostly orig paint and in great condition a &quot;Good&quot; grille is going to be expensive. Let's see, 2K on a NOS grille or take the chance of losing a few points if it is ever judged? With as hard as it seams to get past a abnormality or a incorrect item ( You decide) why on earth would one subject themselves to the judging? I'm sure this is a pretty cool car. Like every other Camaro on the planet, I'm sure it has sins too. Let's focus on the positives of each and then &quot;maybe&quot; more people will get involved with preserving whats left and shareing a car we may be able to take something from...... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]

Got any more pics of the Z ? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif[/img]

BIG

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I would like to see some close up pics of the grill and hood.

What month and week was this car built?

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Awesome car! I can feel your pain about non-conforming examples. I had a 1969 Z11 Pace Car a few years back that was a Zone show car with every option on it (excapt a big block). I even had original owner photos from the day he bought it that showed the non-conforming pinstripes around the main orange hood and trunk stripes. The gap between them was the same width as the actual pinstripe, which was noticeably different than the blue-print proportions put out by Chevrolet. That got debated quite a bit and I even lost points at a judging for it. But in the end, it didn't bother me because the orignal owner was the true judge of how the car was at the time it was deliverd as he was the ultimate witness to its status in 1969.

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When did the standard '69 Camaro grille start being produced in a black plastic rather than the off-white we are most familiar with on original cars? The NOS grilles have been black for many years. I believe the factory RS grilles were formed in black plastic for the '69 production rather than the off-white, at least what I have seen on some original cars.

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Tom,
Go to the back side of the grill and scratch the surface. See if there is any white under the black. The grills were molded in white and then painted argent silver, where the black grills from what i read were molded in black. At least you will be able to tell if it was painted over or not.

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This certainly is a GREAT mostly original old car. But we also know its not &quot;untouched&quot;. It's also been through four or five hands and almost 50 years. What we do know is the hood and the front bumper are not original. If those two had not been touched and the grill was black it would be easier for me to accept it as a factory anomaly just being honest. But with an anomaly of a grill sitting directly in between two parts that are known to be non original to the car, well quite frankly it becomes a tougher sell. Its a not my car but I'd sure be proud to own it no matter how that grill wound up there! m

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camaromb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When did the standard '69 Camaro grille start being produced in a black plastic rather than the off-white we are most familiar with on original cars? The NOS grilles have been black for many years. I believe the factory RS grilles were formed in black plastic for the '69 production rather than the off-white, at least what I have seen on some original cars. </div></div>

So did they even produce black non RS grilles back in the day?

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Sorry JL8Tom, I hope all this grille [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif[/img] doesn't scare/piss you off. As our newest member with a way cool Z28, I for one would like you to stick around and show us more of it.

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Phil - what does a copy of an outgoing quality audit that shows a bunch of fit and finish errors have to do with installing a wrong grille? Do you have audits that show wrong grille?