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I'm also shrinking the size of many of these pics so they fit on the screen without having to scroll to the right. Looks like the best size is around 90K.

1) Here's a great shot of a Judge doing the pacing duties at Elkhart Lake.

2) Check out this ad from the late 70's. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif[/img]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----Wow, Grant!!! Where did that GP go? Another non-SJ 428/4spd HO unearthed. There just cant be many of these. Do you have a handle on any production figures?

----That Honeycomb appears to be actual aluminum, not rubber faced. I think that would definetly make it a prototype during the 1970 time period, wouldnt it?......Bill S </div></div>

Bill, I sold the car about three years ago to a friend in IL. Myself and another friend bought the car off ebay in Jan of 2006. It was originally advertised as a 400 4-speed car. The seller was getting lots of questions on the car mainly because of the factory chrome parts on the engine thinking it may be a 428. Well, not only did it turn out to be a 428, it was a 428HO! Of course the bidding got more interesting after that. I wanted to do a full restoration on the car, but ended up selling it. Anyway, its in good hands. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

Production figures are 116 total 428HO 4-speed GP's for '69. Of those, 94 had the wide ratio 4-speed (M20) and 22 had the close ratio (M21) with the 3.90 gear only. This car has the wide ratio 4-speed with 3.55 gear. I've yet to discover one of the 22 cars, but that would be the one I'd really like to have. I have a list of 13 documented cars so far that are still around with about a 50/50 split between J's and SJ's. Oh, and if you ever run across a 428HO 3-speed manual car, its 1 of only 3 built with one of them confirmed to have been crushed. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img]

That would make sense on the wheel... the honeycombs appear to be larger to me, similar to the new aftermarket wheels that I've seen lately.

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Great photos again, Mike! Yes, Charley did good! Hopefully he wont lock us out for cluttering up this section... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif[/img]

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Love that RA IV Judge ad! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/Can-I-Have-It.gif[/img]

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Grant, did you know Marvin Minnereck (sp?) from my area (suburbs of Chicago)? Marvin had a silver 1969 Grand Prix 428 HO 4-speed, and I met him while sitting in the staging lanes on a Pontiac Drag Day. After talking to him for a while, I realized he was also the same guy that used to have a beautiful 1965 2+2 ragtop 4-speed back in the 1980's.

1) The 70 Grand Prix, sitting at the 1970 Chicago Auto Show.

2) The proud owner of a new 1972 Hurst SSJ.

3) New owner of &quot;The Humbler&quot;. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

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No, I've never heard the name before or of the car. Would love to know more about it!

More great photos! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

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Here is a picture of my dad in front of our 1970 Pontiac Catalina.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/scan0001.jpg

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Great photo! Was that a camp site?

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----Wow, Grant!!! Where did that GP go? Another non-SJ 428/4spd HO unearthed. There just cant be many of these. Do you have a handle on any production figures?

----That Honeycomb appears to be actual aluminum, not rubber faced. I think that would definetly make it a prototype during the 1970 time period, wouldnt it?......Bill S </div></div>

Bill, it was Andy and I that bought the car off ebay. We went 50/50 on it and then I bought it outright a couple of months later. Initially it was at Andy's place, but that was probably several months before you were there.

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----Stealth,,,I know Marvin well from when Classic Motors was located in Billy Jacobs building on the N/W side of Joliet. The building backed up to the river. Marvin was and is a great guy, and a true Pontiac nutcase. He was a salesman at Jacobs Chevrolet for quite some time. You have only one thing wrong,,,his GP was a 1970. I Know as I saw it many times. I loved the car as it was an original leather car which is soooooo, soooooo rare (silver/blk leather). I actually bought a set of black leather seats for a triple black 69 SJ I had (bought out of Naperville) from Marvin. His 65 2+2 421/4-spd convert was the nicest I have ever seen. I tried to buy it a couple of times, but could never get the job done. Saw Marvin at the 1st MCACN and reminisced about much of this drivel, and met his son who is carrying on the torch. Great, great family......Bill S