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That 67 vert is a big block. Wonder if it was an l78? Looks like mountain green.

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Look at all those p-38 lightnings on the new quinea island black and white picture. P-38's were my favorite plane when I was growing up.

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Sadly they used bulldozers, dug a hole and pushed them all in. What a waste.

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Hey Pete, I appreciate your enthusiasm for the subject. But stealing pictures off the internet and throwing them on here does nobody any good... especially since many of them are my pictures stolen from my site.

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Oh snap:-)

Hi Pete, Hi Ryan.

Are links ok to your website, etc?

Ryan

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Sorry Dev' but all are simply relevant shots of stuff we like around here and yes saved and sourced randomly online...I don't think any came directly from your site so totally unintentional if so.
If important to you, best may be tag your pics w/ a watermark that shows were they originated otherwise and like anything on the web, they get passed around without credit exactly as has happened here?
Thanks for speaking up though also kudos and credit to you for the pics that are yours also thanks in advance for any others that may inevitably appear in this or other threads here.
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
~ Pete

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Pete, nice post, the epitome of Canadian Consideration.

Ryan

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Just my two cents and mean nothing negative to anyone but if pictures are posted on the Internet which is available to anyone in the world how could anyone consider them Theirs

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chevyman0429</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just my two cents and mean nothing negative to anyone but if pictures are posted on the Internet which is available to anyone in the world how could anyone consider them Theirs </div></div>

Because the photos that a photographer posts get harvested and then sold off by others who attempt to then copyright them as their own and get paid a royalty on them. The watermark prevents another person from doing that. Unmarked photos also get used by scammers in fake ads on ebay and craigslist.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Sorry Dev' but all are simply relevant shots of stuff we like around here and yes saved and sourced randomly online...I don't think any came directly from your site so totally unintentional if so.
If important to you, best may be tag your pics w/ a watermark that shows were they originated otherwise and like anything on the web, they get passed around without credit exactly as has happened here?
Thanks for speaking up though also kudos and credit to you for the pics that are yours also thanks in advance for any others that may inevitably appear in this or other threads here.
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
~ Pete
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Someone conveniently removed my watermarks from my pictures. And I know they came from my site, cause they could not have come from anywhere else.

And wouldn't it be better to share your own pictures, rather then just stealing them from all over the internet. And then there is no context to anything? For 46 pages, most of the pictures are self shot pictures with the stories behind them. If you just 'shotgun' a bunch of stolen pictures here, they lose their meaning.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oh snap:-)

Hi Pete, Hi Ryan.

Are links ok to your website, etc?

Ryan</div></div>

Yeah, that's fine of course. I've posted pictures, links to my site and videos before. It's no problem.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Devil</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Sorry Dev' but all are simply relevant shots of stuff we like around here and yes saved and sourced randomly online...I don't think any came directly from your site so totally unintentional if so.
If important to you, best may be tag your pics w/ a watermark that shows where they originated otherwise and like anything on the web, they get passed around without credit exactly as has happened here?
Thanks for speaking up though also kudos and credit to you for the pics that are yours also thanks in advance for any others that may inevitably appear in this or other threads here.
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
~ Pete
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Someone conveniently removed my watermarks from my pictures. And I know they came from my site, cause they could not have come from anywhere else.

And wouldn't it be better to share your own pictures, rather then just stealing them from all over the internet. And then there is no context to anything? For 46 pages, most of the pictures are self shot pictures with the stories behind them. If you just 'shotgun' a bunch of stolen pictures here, they lose their meaning.

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Not sure what you're suggesting but I'm certainly not the one who removed your watermarks even if I knew how to do so...which I don't.
Again only shots relevant to what most here enjoy were saved and posted also please keep in mind that not everyone is as computer savvy as you and I may be cruising the web so many site brothers may not have ever seen and enjoyed them if not posted here?
Again as I said previously, thanks and credit to you for any pics that are yours also thank you in advance for any others that may appear in this or other threads here in the future but w/ unmarked pics all over the net, it's somewhat inevitable when like minded subjects the topic.
That all said, if you still really believe I took the pics from your site and removed the marks, sorry but no and best may be check into the &quot;Pinterest&quot; website as quite a few were found there also others from elsewhere on the web plus more saved on my system somewhere in the past.
Lastly and this is for everyone reading this, I have lots of shots saved including more old warbird stuff I was going to add but waiting to let the group enjoy those already posted...shall I and others who find cool shots on the web we don't know the origins of stop sharing or what's best from here? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]
~ Pete

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When I post an original pic on the internet I do so knowing that others will save and later share that pic, and I don´t have a problem with that. I just don´t want other people to make money on my pic unless they pay me first.
So I´m with you Pete. Don´t stop sharing.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Devil</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Sorry Dev' but all are simply relevant shots of stuff we like around here and yes saved and sourced randomly online...I don't think any came directly from your site so totally unintentional if so.
If important to you, best may be tag your pics w/ a watermark that shows where they originated otherwise and like anything on the web, they get passed around without credit exactly as has happened here?
Thanks for speaking up though also kudos and credit to you for the pics that are yours also thanks in advance for any others that may inevitably appear in this or other threads here.
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
~ Pete
</div></div>

Someone conveniently removed my watermarks from my pictures. And I know they came from my site, cause they could not have come from anywhere else.

And wouldn't it be better to share your own pictures, rather then just stealing them from all over the internet. And then there is no context to anything? For 46 pages, most of the pictures are self shot pictures with the stories behind them. If you just 'shotgun' a bunch of stolen pictures here, they lose their meaning.

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Not sure what you're suggesting but I'm certainly not the one who removed your watermarks even if I knew how to do so...which I don't.
Again only shots relevant to what most here enjoy were saved and posted also please keep in mind that not everyone is as computer savvy as you and I may be cruising the web so many site brothers may not have ever seen and enjoyed them if not posted here?
Again as I said previously, thanks and credit to you for any pics that are yours also thank you in advance for any others that may appear in this or other threads here in the future but w/ unmarked pics all over the net, it's somewhat inevitable when like minded subjects the topic.
That all said, if you still really believe I took the pics from your site and removed the marks, sorry but no and best may be check into the &quot;Pinterest&quot; website as quite a few were found there also others from elsewhere on the web plus more saved on my system somewhere in the past.
Lastly and this is for everyone reading this, I have lots of shots saved including more old warbird stuff I was going to add but waiting to let the group enjoy those already posted...shall I and others who find cool shots on the web we don't know the origins of stop sharing or what's best from here? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img]
~ Pete

</div></div> I really don't think anyone on these forums is making an $$ off pictures, etc. displayed here. If there were any money to be made the Chinese would be hacking in and collecting $$, I mean data.

So I will keep posting things I find interesting and hopefully so will the rest of the folks here ... you also Pete!!

TAZ

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how the hell is reposting a picture from the internet, back on the internet 'stealing'

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300deluxeL79</div><div class="ubbcode-body">how the hell is reposting a picture from the internet, back on the internet 'stealing'</div></div>

Excellent Q ...

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On the Internet it's called &quot;sharing.&quot; Everywhere else it's called &quot;stealing.&quot;

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<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-family: 'Georgia'">I have posted many of my original pictures on the net. I have found my shots on boards and sites I have never even heard of - Google dog427435 and you’ll find my pictures posted all over the world. I have even seen many of my sixties NASCAR shots for sale on E-bay. Big deal - I was never going to do that.

But the reason I posted these shots was for others to enjoy – not to retain ownership of them, or mutilate them with a watermark through the middle!

If you’re that worried about your pictures – keep and enjoy them yourself on your own computer.

I enjoyed the pictures Pete posted and would not have seen them if he hadn’t!</span>
</span> [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif[/img] [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/youguysrock.gif[/img]

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Well what ever you do Pete and Dog DO NOT stop posting pictures as we ALL enjoy them. I am of a similar frame of mind and post pictures all the time of in progress restorations and building knowing full well that they get copied and shared. I have no issues until I find them being falsely used to sell something or take credit for. Until then my only hopes are that they help people and they enjoy them.

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Great thoughts and ideas fellas also thanks for checking in w/ your view too Dog!
Unless for personal and/or financial gain, personally I feel gathering/posting shots of similar topics more as a synopsis or filtered version of the possible millions/billions of pictures out there on the web.
Although I agree that removing watermarks is just plain wrong, posting pics on the web is somewhat like pulling your pants down...so best keep anything private just that unless Ok and willing to 'share' as noted above.
Again as previously, thanks and credit to the carsinbarns site for any posted pics that originated there also thanks in advance for others that may yet appear in this or other threads around here. ( www.carsinbarns.blogspot.com )

[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
~ Pete

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Pete, Rick, Glenn, Bill ... Amen

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 300deluxeL79</div><div class="ubbcode-body">how the hell is reposting a picture from the internet, back on the internet 'stealing' </div></div>

Guys, I know Ryan. He works very hard to support the hobby, but some people - disreputable or simply naive - have removed water marks from his efforts.

I don't think he's accusing anyone here of doing this or asking people to stop posting pics online, but merely trying to protect his efforts.

And I don't blame him.

Now that everyone has this new awareness, please don't remove the water mark of any pic you find online - we are not the owners of those pics.

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A photographer owns the imagery they shot until they sell it, or give it away. In both instances it's best to make the purchase of imagery a formal transaction with an invoice. Book publishing is 10x more difficult than it was even 5 years ago. Attempting to find a source on a singular, powerful image can be time and financially consuming. A lot of these images are scans out of a book, newspaper or magazine, and as soon as they're applied to the &quot;Net&quot; everyone thinks they're fair game. To an extent they are. Up until you attempt to make money off the image.

I would imagine it would take a bit of work to remove a watermark. Was it possible Ryan that someone scanned the image out of one of your magazine articles?

One more thing. Go on Ebay and type in your favorite car, personality etc... You will find hundreds of images. Many of these sellers have a note to please contact them if you are the owner of the image. What they're doing is taking advantage of that image owner until a cease and desist letter is sent to them. They could have sold that image 5,000 times until you figure out thats whats happening.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SeattleCarGuy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was able to buy this Chevelle in December. Had sat in this garage since 1993. The owner bought it used in 1972 and blew a head gasket then parked it. I will be starting on the restoration sometime this summer. L34, M21, Lemans Blue, White Bench seat, tach/guages, rear sway bar

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...-26999-005.jpg
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Did you get that cool Alpine Lambo poster? I have one still.
http://blueicehouse.com/n5ssi/Lambo.jpg

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PeteLeathersac</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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Hey Pete cool picture! I know the owner of that car and have seen it up close here in Australia. It's a Holden Monaro, and the color is GMH Sebring Orange, which happens to be identical to Chevy Hugger Orange. Car has a great story behind it's purchase, and the new owner had to cut it out of an overgrown shed and evict a snake. That picture looks to have been taken while being loaded after the liberation! Owner is a die-hard Chev and Pontiac guy and also owns some nice Mopars.

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Saw one (rotting musclecar) yesterday. Went to look at some 70-72 4-dr Cutlass parts cars with a friend, and sitting over under a tree was a Rallye 350 2-dr sedan 4-spd car, still wearing the W25 hood and deck spoiler. It was wearing a weathered coat of black paint, but you could see the sebring yellow where the door mirror was removed (and in various other places). Owner claims it is a legit car, but that it wasn't for sale. He didn't want us getting too close to it, so I can't verify the 4-spd part, but that's what he told us. If legit, I'd say a 4-spd 2-dr sedan Rallye is probably a pretty low production car.

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Depending on the exact model, could have possibly been 1of 12. Probably worth a follow-up.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DW31S</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Depending on the exact model, could have possibly been 1of 12. Probably worth a follow-up. </div></div>

That rare? I know of a 4-speed post Rallye sitting a junkyard. Not much left of it. It appears to have been a base model with no window trim. F-85? Is an F-85 Rallye possible?

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DW31S</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Depending on the exact model, could have possibly been 1of 12. Probably worth a follow-up. </div></div>

The guy isn't going to part with it, and the car is pretty rough. Original engine missing - said it has a '66 400. He is one of those guys that thinks he knows what he has, and I get the idea that maybe Barrett-Jackson Syndrome has taken hold.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: old5.0</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DW31S</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Depending on the exact model, could have possibly been 1of 12. Probably worth a follow-up. </div></div>

That rare? I know of a 4-speed post Rallye sitting a junkyard. Not much left of it. It appears to have been a base model with no window trim. F-85? Is an F-85 Rallye possible? </div></div>

I have a F-85 Rallye. Bench seat auto though.

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Supposedly, just 12 Cutlass S post 4-speed cars were built. 160 Cutlass S post Rallye 350s. Over 1000 f85 Rallye 350 models. This is one of the most confusing areas (even for some Olds people), regarding build numbers. Couldn't get bucket seats in an f85; either post it hardtop. Buckets WERE available in the &quot;S&quot; models both body styles. The &quot;S&quot; had a different seat cover and door panel pattern and carpet. It does get confusing; 1972 is another hard one to figure out...no buckets in a post model.
In my opinion, Rallye 350s never got the interest or &quot;respect&quot; they deserved. They had a great combination of standard items, but most got parted out to build 442s of W-cars.

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1980 Maserati – not registered in 10+ years


https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...-29236-p71.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...-29237-p72.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...-29238-p73.jpg

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It's probably broke and too expensive to fix ...

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That 12 number is not documented.

And, yes, I know you said &quot;supposedly.&quot; :-)

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Yea, I know 442W30, I don't think there is any hard evidence of the exact number of Rallye 350s in the Cutlass &quot;S&quot; Post trim level with a 4-speed. Just like &quot;supposedly&quot; ( and I know for a fact that some WERE made, but not assembly line produced) there were Rallye 350 W-31 cars built. Build numbers weren't exact science like a portion of the hobby thinks they were/are. Engineering and design study cars absolutely DID exist, but documenting those cars is next to impossible. Back door builds won't have a proper trail making them even more mysterious (and desirable to me).

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this awesome 55 chevy has been sitting in this same spot for over 30 years! and no it's not for sale he's going to fix it some day!



https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...9-img_5375.jpg
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Did you remind him that 'some day has come and gone' and the only time left is enough for him to count the green and watch the mold grow instead of the 55 slowly turning to rust then dust ?.

Take cash next time and put a few banded stacks on the hood. ..I bet he keeps looking back at the money than you as you 2 talk

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Wow, that '55 looks awesome, would love to see it back on the street just as it sits there......

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https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...0135-image.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...0136-image.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...0137-image.jpg
Just stumble across this W25 gentleman said only 1100 made

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No idea of production but isn't that a '74 Hurst Olds?
Also wasn't the W25 for the 350 CID cars and W30's got the 455?
[img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
~ Pete

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The younger gentleman that owned it said it was a 76 hurst W25