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R68GTO 11-26-2022 09:42 AM

Awesome piece of history for the car - great research Jose!

Too Many Projects 11-26-2022 12:37 PM

That is an interesting piece of the cars past, but I'm rather certain the snorkel is hand made and welded on.
It's still cool that someone made this to help get cooler air to the engine.

jbtech 11-26-2022 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Too Many Projects (Post 1606608)
That is an interesting piece of the cars past, but I'm rather certain the snorkel is hand made and welded on.
It's still cool that someone made this to help get cooler air to the engine.


Yes it's a modified '66 Chevelle 396 L34 or L35 standard air cleaner. Bruce modified it himself to create his own plenum air cleaner setup.

1967 4K 11-26-2022 07:05 PM

I enjoy seeing things like this air cleaner. It shows how the average racer back in the day came up with ideas how to make his car just a little better than it was the weekend before.
Keep up the good work on your 4K Jose, I’m watching.

Donnie 11-26-2022 09:36 PM

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I haven't looked at this in a while. I have a BOBB L78 Chevelle.

jbtech 12-06-2022 08:13 PM

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Here is a copy of the original sales paperwork provided by Bruce. Bentley suggested the salesman signature was "McCandlish" so after some research I found Max Edward McCandlish who worked at Bobb Chevrolet as a salesman.

He was also about the same age as Bruce at the time (mid 20's). Unfortunately he passed away in 2012 but I was able to make contact with this son today Matt who confirmed 100% the writing and signature belonged to his father. Max Edward McCandlish was the mastermind behind who custom ordered this car and reluctantly sold it to Bruce Cremean.

Matt had some great information about his father, Bobb Chevrolet, the Camaro Club, drag racing and more. He also says they may have photos.

Ron Perry (another salesman) once said in a facebook post that Bobb Chevrolet was a great place to work and I believe it!

Too Many Projects 12-06-2022 10:26 PM

And Bruce traded in a 1966 Chevelle SS396 for $2,300...:cool2:

jbtech 12-07-2022 04:03 AM

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Matt says his father owned many Camaros while he worked for Bobb Chevrolet. He said the "higher up" Bruce spoke of must have been Mr. Bobb Woodward in which his father Max McCandlish didn't always see eye to eye.

Matt says his father Max would take new cars, install the slicks at their house and take them to the drag strip.

The dealership was very involved in racing. Bobb Chevrolet also had it's own Camaro club called the Central Ohio Camaro Club (CCOC) and would often host rally events.
"Lot of Camaros went through there. They were all about racing till they got sued do to a death in a rally event. Guys were trying to make time running a rally and was involved in causing a vehicle accident with fatality" He said this was around 1970. His father Max's last year with the Camaro club would be 1973.


Photos in no particular order:

The banner of CCOC was taken in the infield of Mid Ohio race course in Lexington in 67

Max Edward McCandlish standing in the Bobb Chevrolet dealership

COCC Gold 69

Max was told my Mr. Woodward to stop driving his Studebaker Avanti to work because customers would walk in and want to buy it.

Bobb Chevrolet Race Car: Note Ron Perry and Mike Cassidy's name are on the car. Both gentlemen I previously thought were the guys who sold the car to Bruce. Max McCandlish and Mike Cassidy were good friends.

Linda Vaughn

In the photo with Linda Vaughn and the Photographer to her left. Max McCandlish is just to the right and behind the photographer.

Photo of a COCC meet

COCC Rally

McCandlish family 68 396 SS

IN the photo with the 68 next to the tent, thats at the Mid Ohio Track

McCandlish family Black 68 SS

Red 68 COCC car

Red 68 COCC member car

"BOBB CHEVROLET RACING TEAM COLUMBUS, OHIO" T shirt

Pace car for IMSA race at Mid Ohio

1967Z28 12-07-2022 12:15 PM

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Can you find out what Matt might know about this '67 Z with Curile Lephart Racing on the front fender? I guess those are two last names of the guys involved with the car. Also, does he recognize the location, possibly a hiilclimb event? Thanks.

jbtech 12-07-2022 04:13 PM

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Can you find out what Matt might know about this '67 Z with Curile Lephart Racing on the front fender? I guess those are two last names of the guys involved with the car. Also, does he recognize the location, possibly a hiilclimb event? Thanks.

I spoke to Matt he didn't recognize the gentlemen or location. However, I decided to do some digging and it turns out that is Phil Gurile not Curile. He also drove the Bobb Chevrolet car with the Budweiser sponsorship taking 10th in the 1974 SCCA National Virginia [AP+BP+CP+AS+BS+ASR+BSR]

https://www.racingsportscars.com/dri...urile-USA.html

dykstra 12-08-2022 10:38 AM

Way cool pics!!! Thanks for posting!!

jbtech 12-13-2022 02:53 PM

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Huge thank you to George Andrews Jr. and Todd Cremean for reuniting this air cleaner back to the car after many decades! Bruce brazed it together to make his own plenum air cleaner.

AnthonyS 12-13-2022 03:26 PM

^ Kool and the Gang!

jbtech 12-19-2022 03:25 PM

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Immediately following the purchase of the 1967 Camaro L78, Bruce buys a used '55 panel truck as his tow rig. He also buys a set of slicks.

67since67 12-19-2022 03:51 PM

Paid almost as much for the slicks as he did for the "Panel Truck", which was not what I was expecting to see when I scrolled down lol, actually a cool "Sedan Delivery"!!

This is a great thread! - Bill W

jbtech 03-03-2023 09:08 PM

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I had the inner heater box blasted, painted, with all new seals installed. I didn't want to take a chance leaving any residue from the mice that made their cozy home.

The heater controls were also cleaned and lubed and installed

The dash and body harness were also installed. I'm using the AAW restoration harness, although it is plug and play their are visual differences. All of my original harness will be restored.

I replaced the chewed up blower fan with a nice used one that works great

I installed the CA code speedo cable using original speedometer clips (My car only uses two clips not 3)

I've managed to find some very difficult parts including:
-Correct fan clutch
-3910 carb dated 731 (rebuilt by Eric Jackson)
-January 67 170 distributor
-negative battery cable
-Takeoff complete disc brake assembly from an 04C car including 8515 booster, wt master, valves, calipers, rotors, spindles. Even the 8515 booster had an identical date to mine.
-Takeoff glove box from a NOR 04C 396 car that has original black paint and identical original tire pressure sticker. This is a perfect replacement for my damaged glove box


Throughout this process I'm building new relationships with great folks and I'm thankful to learn all I can.

Speaking with Bruce (original owner), he voted for 2 5/8 SW Greenline gauges (water and oil) mounted to the column. He also said he ran a separate tach. So I'll do the same.

Matt McCandlish (Son of salesman who ordered my car) says his mom was pissed when his father came home with the Black 68 Camaro (after reluctantly selling the 67 to Bruce).

I attached a photo that was posted on Facebook. This car isn't mine but it's nearly identical with the only exception being my car has all tinted glass. It's vintage photos like these that motivate me to work on the car when I can.

My next steps are to:
Finish up the firewall (apply dum dum, install clutch rod boot etc)
Prep/install windshield
Install new bushings in the pedal assembly
Figure out where the little wire clips go (I found one on the dash holding the door jam switch wire)
Visit Mike's Boosters to have my front braking system rebuilt


I also sent out my lock cylinders to Jesser's Classic Keys who will rebuild and cut me a set of original keys and recode a glove box lock cylinder as my original glove box cylinder is long gone.
I removed a core lock cylinder from an original 67 glove box and to my surprise it wasn't stamped with a code.
It was cool to see that the trunk and door locks were original coded to the car per the sales documentation.

cook_dw 03-07-2023 06:01 PM

Great progress Jose!! Makin' me want to get out in the garage..

Chevyfever 03-08-2023 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John (Post 1567034)
Yeah, were the drums lighter... That's hard to imagine.

Yes

jbtech 05-15-2023 02:47 PM

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Thanks to Darrell and a buddy near Chicago, this AandA hood will have a 2nd life on my Camaro.

Finding rare parts for the car is definitely part of the fun.

cook_dw 05-15-2023 02:52 PM

Glad it went to a good home.

jbtech 06-21-2023 06:36 PM

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I found a correct original takeoff driveshaft that was painted decades ago and it's staying that way. In fact I've been very fortunate to find some very hard to find goodies for the car.

Bill James Muscle car factory has my vert MQ block and it's being built. For now my 462 with 3521 crank, 077 heads, 198 intake, and straub roller cam will go in the car.

I'm running a 70 Chevelle M22 so I'm going to use a different yoke to work with the setup. I found a yoke that is 1/2" longer than original so I'll have the machine shop turn it to the correct factory length.

I'm using Crash's custom shifter mount that will allow the shifter to pivot into correct position and accommodate the offset of the big block crossmember. The shifter is a first generation hurst setup with the early fat letter stick. I will need to gently grind off a portion of the reverse lockout for it to fully disengage as it interferes with the shifter mount, so for now I'll go without it.

I was able to find an excellent condition original black dash pad and got it installed. Unfortunately, I found a factory flaw where the dash was installed about a 1/4" higher up on the LH A pillar vs the RH side so I'm fighting to get the LH a pillar molding fitted.

I prepped the windshield channel for glass and had a local installer get it done. I decided to go with urethane as I feel it helps improve the integrity of the body. The install is guaranteed leak free for life. I bought tinted glass with date NZ (January 1967) This matches the date of the back glass. All glass on the car is original with exception of the windshield.

I continue to speak with the original owner Bruce Cremean weekly. Judy Rooker who owned the car from the 80s-2000s promised she'd reach out to my in July and find photos etc of the car. She took it to prom and her HS boyfriend installed these wild rear flares. She is also the last known person with the muncie so hopefully something comes from that.

Unfortunately, I haven't had a reply in my last two attempts to keep in contact with the folks with the original engine although one is a "friend" on FB can can see my posts. I still have hope something can be worked out that makes both parties happy but for now I think I just need to leave them be.

luzl78 06-22-2023 02:47 AM

Jose, where did you buy your glass from? Jeff

SuperNovaSS 06-22-2023 03:01 AM

Looking Great JB! I love that driveshaft. I bet it feels great to have the windshield back in. Great work!

Jason

L72copocamaro 06-22-2023 03:59 AM

Love the driveshaft and would leave it as is too!

jbtech 06-22-2023 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by luzl78 (Post 1625368)
Jose, where did you buy your glass from? Jeff

Auto City Classic

Ebay Item #: 302654318337 for the tinted glass.

When purchasing I sent a PM with the date I wanted in the glass.

Too Many Projects 06-22-2023 10:31 PM

Might want to compare the cost, buying direct. They are paying ebay fees...
https://www.autocityclassic.com/camaro-glass/

luzl78 06-22-2023 11:24 PM

I just ordered one for my 70 Monte. Original green tinted glass and stamped and dated. It was $424 shipped

jbtech 07-05-2023 07:50 PM

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I rebuilt the internal mechanisms for the LH door glass and LH quarter window, installed a new vent window channel as the Old one was destroyed. The glass was banging around getting scratches over the years. I used a bolt in style roller to replace the busted large roller. Jesser's classic keys rebuilt my lock cylinders and they also made keys stamped to match which is cool because the key codes are original to the sales documentation. I adjusted the door and it no longer needs to be slammed shut. A gentle push and it catches. This is with original door hinges so I'm happy.
I installed the water shields and didn't forget to tuck them in at the bottom. After that I installed the door panel with the handle springs in between the panel and mechanism.
Door panel, handles, handle washers, arm rest are all original gm. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

jbtech 07-24-2023 05:04 AM

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Disassembled, cleaned, and reassembled the original cluster assembly. A little over 97K original miles.
I swapped the black housing to a better condition spare original gm one I had on the shelf. I also swapped the circuit board as the original was fried. I installed all new bulbs and can't wait to see it lit up.

jbtech 07-27-2023 07:03 PM

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Original GM dash switches installed. I sorted through a box, weeding out any damaged bezels or repop parts. The lighter is NOS. The ignition switch is the original coded "born with" rebuilt assembly. I used the specialized tools to reinstall without damage.

jbtech 07-28-2023 02:53 AM

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Gauges are in.

In 67 the low fuel lamp socket needs to be installed below the circuit board as the fuel module sends a positive signal. I believe a previous owner didn't realize this and fried the board. This also explains the fried wire coming from the original console harness.

jbtech 07-28-2023 04:54 AM

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Trim plate, radio cover plate, ash tray assembly installed. All used original GM parts cleaned with soap and water before install.

Too Many Projects 07-28-2023 08:12 PM

It all looks great, Jose.

SPEEDYB 07-29-2023 12:02 AM

I think this is a great car, congratulations

jbtech 07-30-2023 02:04 AM

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I cleaned, replaced grease fittings where needed, greased and installed tie rods, and idler arm. The original spare tie rods I used were in great shape.

dykstra 07-31-2023 11:16 AM

Coming along nicely!!:headbang:

jbtech 07-31-2023 09:43 PM

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Flywheel installed and torqued per arp specs. Next I'll dial indicate bellhousing. I'm waiting for some small parts to refresh the M22.

Too Many Projects 07-31-2023 11:13 PM

Looks great and WHERE did you get that flywheel lock ? I've never seen one like that. That must work better for torqueing than the turning tool.

jbtech 08-01-2023 07:45 AM

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Here's the tool. Allstar Performance ALL96426. I used it on the "wrong" side but it still did the job easy peasy.

Also, I was able to use a dial indicator and the bellhousing runout is .004" so no need to use offset dowels.

Too Many Projects 08-01-2023 04:58 PM

Thanks, Jose, I'll be getting one soon.


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