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McCune 11-29-2018 04:13 AM

A 07E Z28 must be one of the last Z built.

L16pilot 11-29-2018 01:18 PM

"BTW do any of my wheel colors appear close?
I still don't have the wheel color acceptable."

James - I have a couple quarts of the original Ditzler DLL-32961 formula. If it would help, I can provide you a spray out card in the next couple of weeks. Looking at photos, t's really difficult due to various lighting effects, so hopefully having a fresh spray out card with the correct material will help.

firstgenaddict 11-29-2018 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by L16pilot (Post 1423747)
"BTW do any of my wheel colors appear close?
I still don't have the wheel color acceptable."

James - I have a couple quarts of the original Ditzler DLL-32961 formula. If it would help, I can provide you a spray out card in the next couple of weeks. Looking at photos, t's really difficult due to various lighting effects, so hopefully having a fresh spray out card with the correct material will help.

That would be AWESOME...

L16pilot 11-29-2018 05:03 PM

No problem and easily done. Do you have a time frame?...I should be able to a spray out in the next couple of weeks if that's okay...mainly want to wait for a low humidity day.

copo69 11-30-2018 12:51 AM

Last Z's
 
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Originally Posted by McCune (Post 1423725)
A 07E Z28 must be one of the last Z built.

So far it's the baby on the '73 registry. It has a unique item, green pinch clamps rather than Witeks on the smog hoses. The guys on the 2nd gen site told me there was no way , they had to have been replaced but I took them off when I first got it. Another guy with a '73 chimed in about a late '73 Chevy p/u a friend of his drove to work. Turns out it was a late build truck with the same clamps on it. Took one off and sent it to me.

firstgenaddict 11-30-2018 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by L16pilot (Post 1423760)
No problem and easily done. Do you have a time frame?...I should be able to a spray out in the next couple of weeks if that's okay...mainly want to wait for a low humidity day.

next couple of weeks is more than fine... thank you again.

firstgenaddict 11-30-2018 01:07 AM

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Dropped the engine and trans in today...

73RSLTZ 11-30-2018 04:01 PM

Looks great. Thank you Bro. I appreciate everything you do. Deer season is almost over.

x77-69z28 11-30-2018 06:02 PM

James, when I did the wheels on my 70 Z project two years ago, The Parts Place was still selling the correct lacquer formula in quarts. My wheels are perfect with texture!
Buddy

firstgenaddict 11-30-2018 07:37 PM

NOW I can start assembling the rest of the sheet metal!!!!

Kurt S 12-03-2018 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by x77-69z28 (Post 1423952)
The Parts Place was still selling the correct lacquer formula in quarts.

The wheels were the only thing painted in the factory in enamel, btw.

x77-69z28 12-03-2018 10:08 PM

I did not know that!
Buddy

firstgenaddict 12-04-2018 03:59 AM

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progressing...

Lynn 12-04-2018 04:20 AM

Very nice James.

I should know this, but I don't. Can I put an RC33 radiator cap on my 69 Camaro radiator, run the overflow hose into an expansion tank and have a closed system on my 69? I know it isn't technically correct. Is there something different in the neck that would keep it from working as a closed system?

firstgenaddict 12-04-2018 02:41 PM

Lynn,
I do not believe there is anything different, the cap is incorrect in appearance though, if you want a closer to correct look the RC 26 is a big eared closed system cap.

firstgenaddict 12-05-2018 01:17 AM

Does anyone know the correct hardware for the shifter levers and shifter mounting plate to trans bolts?

firstgenaddict 12-07-2018 03:17 AM

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Installed the fan and shroud as well as the overflow tank...

In the mean time I painted a 48 FORD Pickup... beautiful 1986 Ford Metallic Blue

big gear head 12-07-2018 11:56 AM

Nice!

L16pilot 12-07-2018 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by firstgenaddict (Post 1423754)
That would be AWESOME...

James and McCune,

Weather is looking good to do the sprayouts of the wheel paint this afternoon/tomorrow. Please contact me at [email protected] or 443-521-3158 to get your shipping addresses.

Dave Rifkin 12-08-2018 08:12 PM

When are you putting the "Caution Fan" sticker on the shroud for the Camaro?

firstgenaddict 12-09-2018 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Rifkin (Post 1425215)
When are you putting the "Caution Fan" sticker on the shroud for the Camaro?

Thanks for the reminder... I surely would have neglected that critical detail...

njsteve 12-09-2018 05:48 PM

I'd be happy to assist you with the proper incorrect placement location as I do own a ford product now, I'll have you know!

;-)

firstgenaddict 01-24-2019 11:06 PM

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I had the card scanned and then did a spray out which was light, so I added a little black tint and I believe it is pretty close, though the texture is a little odd, am spraying the sets tomorrow so I will report back with the exact amount of 806J added &
the Chroma Premier complete mixture ratios.

L16pilot 01-24-2019 11:20 PM

Wow James...that looks spot on. How did you get the texture with modern materials?...just dust the last cost? Awesome job.

firstgenaddict 01-24-2019 11:30 PM

The texture on the card you sent is more even with less noticeable grain than mine.

I originally tried SEM texture coat but it is like 60 grit sandpaper... WAY too rough, then I tried Rust-oleum texture coat first then shot the mix over the top which is what is pictured above.

I am going to do lay down a wet coat then dust them with the mixture needle run close to all the way in for a mist tomorrow.

firstgenaddict 01-25-2019 12:18 AM

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Here are a couple more to try to get a better feel of the color.

The last TWO ARE A WHEEL with ONLY SILVER TEXTURE trying to show the texture prior to the dark gray color.

firstgenaddict 01-25-2019 10:00 PM

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I think I nailed it this time...
I used 6 ounces of the mixed paint - shown in the photo below.
Added 75 ml of 806J
Then added 2 Ounces of Flattener
Catalyst
3 ounces of chroma reducer -
I sprayed it with a 1.4 needle and nozzel with the volume almost off from about 10" moving fast - I ran gun passes using my wrist to swipe the inner area from the rim lip to the center down the lower part the ribs dusting over so as not to get too much build -

Mr70 01-25-2019 10:51 PM

That looks great.

firstgenaddict 02-01-2019 12:59 AM

<<If the moderator could replace the above formula with the one listed below I would appreciate it - the mixing ratios above are WAY OFF.
I didn't have a scale where I was shooting the wheels and I shouldn't try to estimate from memory using mixing cups...


OK
I got a spray out card from someone who had some of the original lacquer.
I had it scanned then did a couple of tests for texture and color after a little work I have the formula worked out in Chroma Premier and will explain how I shot them.

Chroma Premier runs about $110/pint -
4530S 58.2g
813J 40.8g
808J 30.9g
802J 26.0g
806J 88.8g
819J 7.4g
891J 3.9g
864J 2.5g
62320F 162.2g
62330F 112.1g
This makes slightly over a pint.

I mixed the following for shooting the wheels -

6 Oz above paint
2 oz Flattener ***
3 oz Chroma Basemaker reducer
2 oz Catalyst

***WITHOUT FLATTENER it will not have the correct sheen -ALSO if you don't use flattener the color will also be off SIGNIFICANTLY *** flattener actually lightens because is is really just talc.

I used a SATA knock off and shot it from 20" or so away - 20# at the gun with the trigger pulled -(across the pressure drop).
I closed the volume completely then opened until it just began to spray then 1/4 more open --- It took 10 coats to get complete coverage. started on the lug nut areas and the deep pockets first because I knew that would be the difficult part getting coverage without making them look odd.

It would have been difficult to have the coverage be too heavy... resist the temptation to open the volume!

firstgenaddict 02-03-2019 04:42 AM

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I can't tell you how satisfied I am with the wheels... I threw a center cap and trim ring on it and took some pictures... The lighter ones are with flash the other's are without flash.

x77-69z28 02-03-2019 01:06 PM

Looks great James!
Buddy

73RSLTZ 02-13-2019 03:33 PM

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Here is a daylight pic no filter shot with and iPhone

73RSLTZ 06-05-2019 11:51 AM

We should be starting the Camaro today!! Video up today

73RSLTZ 06-05-2019 11:32 PM

Got it started breaking in the new motor..

73RSLTZ 06-05-2019 11:40 PM

https://youtu.be/Z6AUKp-VgyU

73RSLTZ 06-05-2019 11:41 PM

https://youtu.be/Rc6DBoBnOo0

73RSLTZ 06-06-2019 03:12 AM

https://youtu.be/QN8uo_8Efd8
More videos of the Camaro

Charley Lillard 06-06-2019 03:50 AM

In the first video the smog tube has no check valve. Did you plug the tubes ?

73RSLTZ 06-06-2019 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Charley Lillard (Post 1450475)
In the first video the smog tube has no check valve. Did you plug the tubes ?

Yes, I asked James the exact same question.

Dave Rifkin 06-06-2019 01:36 PM

Car sounds a lot throatier than any 73 I remember.


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