Re: 69 Camaro BB blacked out panel?
 

From now on ...it looks like the % of gloss depends on the production date ...because of the heat factor .

Re: 69 Camaro BB blacked out panel?
 

More pics of the low mile 68 I took at MCACN 2010. Maybe someone else took pics of the rockers.https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...3-img_1769.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...4-img_1772.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...5-img_1787.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...6-img_1797.jpg

Re: 69 Camaro BB blacked out panel?
 

I believe Phil is correct on the temp/humidity part. I think those blacked out parts were not buffed. That will make it look grainy and diffuse the light. The laquer will not look smooth, or shine unless it's buffed. Phil, is there a write up in the paint process the either includes, or excludes buffing the rockers, or tail pan? I'm thinking too that they would want to mitigate the chances of buff throughs which would result in rework issues. ie: shoot it, and send it. FWIW

Re: 69 Camaro BB blacked out panel?
 

The purpose of buffing was dirt removal prior to the next coat and the next oven reflow.

Over buffing was not desired as a "cut through" was a repair job later at Fisher at a set off point.

Heat and reflow was the key to gloss.

Re: 69 Camaro BB blacked out panel?
 

Good discussion. Thanks guys and thanks Phil for the explanation.

Re: 69 Camaro BB blacked out panel?
 

Finally got the chance to read thru the entire discussion.. This is probably the best discussion & conclusion to the finish of the blacked-out rear tail panel I've read.
FWIW, When I restored my car 4 years ago I had the blacked-out tail panel on my 70 Camaro painted at a 20% reduction or 80% of full gloss and it looks very close to the pictures Charlie posted above.

Re: 69 Camaro BB blacked out panel?
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Show me a good survivor with satin tail panel. I am basing my opinion on looking at survivors. I believe memories can get clouded. </div></div>

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=2458.165

From the CRG post #165, 5K mile car. I think Lillard has been rubbing his panel to much [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...rear_panel.jpg

Re: 69 Camaro BB blacked out panel?
 

Gotta admit, based on that photo I'd have to say I'm becoming a believer that they were not always painted full gloss black. Mainly because if they were full gloss why would they even bother painting them at all on Tuxedo Black cars? Definitely 2 different levels of gloss there if that car is guaranteed all original paint.

Re: 69 Camaro BB blacked out panel?
 

This is from my 12k org mile survivor L78 that I sold Jpe D. in 2007, Charley you took photo's of the tail panel at Carlisle in 2004. I do not have a closeup. The second photo is on the trailer headed for Texas.


https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...6-dscn1291.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7-dscn1292.jpg

Re: 69 Camaro BB blacked out panel?
 

I don't know about the tail panel color, but that's an awesome car.