Re: Leaf Springs with Ladder Bars and chrome diff
 

I meant to post this in the comment above about the modified mount to eliminate the suspension bind. This I think shows what Kim and I were trying to say.

http://www.4x4review.com/Portals/1/O.../trac-bar4.JPG

Re: Leaf Springs with Ladder Bars and chrome diff
 

these pics arent the best, but hopefully You get the idea...cellphone pics...my 70 Camaro...

been there for many years..any idea what make??

ever since my first SS396 69 chevelle, I've loved ladder bars..way cooler than traction bars ....jmo

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Lets see. Yellow nova, OLD hippie look, mean looking. Don't know anybody like that. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img] Huh

Re: Leaf Springs with Ladder Bars
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kim_Howie</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Marlin,
Set your ladder bars on the same pivot as your rear spring front eyelet. Make your eyelet bolt longer to bolt your bars on and they will be on the same pivot. They will work fine. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] </div></div>

Not really. The problem is that on a leaf spring car,as the rear axle moves up and down it also moves foward and backward because the spring has an arch to it. If you have a car with high arch springs,and the wheel is centered in the wheel opening front to back and you push down on the back of the car,the rear axle will move rearward and the tire will move toward the back of the wheel opening. Thats why the rear of the spring must have a shackle. The only way to run the ladder bars with leaf springs is either with a slider mounting system between the rear axle housing and spring,(which can only be done with real racing ladder bars),or with some type of sliding rod end at the front mounting location of the ladder bar. It would need to be made to be something like the sliding rod end that is usually fitted into the front of a wishbone axle locator.

Those hot rod ladder bars are the worst cazr part ever designed. They destroy every car that you put them on and do nothing to make the car faster or safer. If ever there was a speed part that deserves it's own class action lawsuit,it is those pieces of crap. I wonder how many people were killed over the years by fast musclecars skipping across the road and spinning out of control because somebody thought they were improving on their car by using those bars when in fact they were making it extremly unsafe.

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Rich,

Sort of like a 'shackle' for the front location - or a 'johnny joint' like in the previous pic?

The more I read, the more I learn, and I now understand why these get a bad rap. It takes all of the travel/functionality out of springs and forces the rear in directions it was not meant to go! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img] We're going to put them on, but doubt we'll do much driving with them - no racing at all, [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/scholar.gif[/img]

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You can drive all you want on them. Coming off the line really won't hurt much just not do what a slapper bar would do. They will be more like torsion bar deal I guess. Just won't point the pinion angle in the right direction. I have the correct bars for you when you are done playing. Ready to go.

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I have a vintage set of Lakewood traction bars too, they are a distant 'plan B' right now.

Gotta move on to an oval port tunnel ram now, [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img] We're going to shoot two hoods.

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I like the tunnel ram deal too! YEAA!

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My camaro is a ladder bar car. the car has a 1.27 short time .
The rear end has a bird cage set up or a floater rear end.
Works great.

Re: Leaf Springs with Ladder Bars and chrome diff
 

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: iluv69s</div><div class="ubbcode-body">these pics arent the best, but hopefully You get the idea...cellphone pics...my 70 Camaro...

been there for many years..any idea what make??

ever since my first SS396 69 chevelle, I've loved ladder bars..way cooler than traction bars ....jmo </div></div> Here you go again teasing us with some pics of a car that looks to be Motion , but not filling us in.