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GM was the largest corporation in the World!

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Know, what THEY STILL ARE!! THEY STILL MAKE THE MOST VEHICLES IN THE WORLD TODAY!!!

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When I said they "used to be the largest corporation in the world", I'm not talking about cars produced, I'm talking about "market cap". As of close on friday, GM's market cap was $1.03 billion. Is any company that is only worth $1.03 in billion market cap, and declining, worth losing many billions of dollars a month for several years trying to save???
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No matter who's to blame it is pretty sad.And what division of GM is next on the chopping block?

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I'm sure Obama will let us know shortly.

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So it's the President's fault that GM has problems?

To another point, I find it hard to believe someone thinks GM has made crap through 2005. Certainly if you've had problems with your '00 Grand Prix, you have a right to be angry. But I think GM has made some pretty decent cars in the past 20 years. The dark ages were the 1970s and the X-cars. GM has had a lot of bright spots over recent history. Today, it's business model needs a drastic revamp even more than Impala.

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There have been some bright spots during that time period (94-02 F bodies, new GTO, their trucks, Caddy's, etc.) but for the most part, their quality has just not been there, and that's the truth backed by millions of owners. Sorry, but that's reality.

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The quality of the recent domestic stuff we've had has surpassed that of our imports from a reliability standpoint (ie fewer defects/warranty repairs). Better paint/finish, too, in many cases. Interior materials not so much.

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I have a 1998 GMC pickup made in Canada with 186,000 miles on it still has original paint and never been touched up and has never sat in a garage that still looks real nice. Fit, finish, quality etc. has surpassed my expectations.

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I have been a loyal GM customer my whole adult life – at home my family has 6 cars, 5 of them are GM cars, the other a Ford product. I’ve purchased my daily drivers from GM every few years, I’ve had Olds 98's in the eighties and as my family grew moved to Blazers in the nineties and then Trailblazers into the 2000's.
Due to family size changes again, last year I wanted to move down in size from the Trailblazer to an Equinox. There was not one like I wanted, in my area, so I picked up a Pontiac Torrent instead. This car was not a stripper; it was loaded with everything available costing over 30k.
I have never had anything but minor problems with any of the cars I've purchased but this Pontiac had some electrical problems which took several trips to the dealer to repair.
But my real bitch is the cheapness with which this car is made. Simple things, like no lighted mirror on the back of the passenger side sun visor, no grab bars, no seat pockets etc, etc. Add to that the gas mileage is barely better then my full size Trailblazer and I scratching my head why?
Then the ultimate insult came when my daughter came down from NY in her new full size Japanese SUV that was as big as my Trailblazer, had all the amenities you could desire, got better mileage then me and cost less then my Torrent.
I’ve never owned a foreign car, but its tough staying loyal and feeling like a fool! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/blush.gif

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Fritz just announced it...Pontiac is DEAD.

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Yep, it's official (along with 21,000 more job cuts) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif

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This is a photo of Bill's '70 in front of Causley Pontiac (on Gratiot in Clinton Township) This was, in better times, the #1 Pontiac Dealership (in terms of sales) in the world!


BTW...EVERY vehicle that Bill and I have ever had owned, both new and used, have been a GM product and we have been VERY pleased with all of them! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif Bill's last 3 trucks have been GMC's. Here's a picture I took of him (being silly https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif) the day he picked up his last one:
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This announcement is going to be a bummer for him https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif, as I'm sure a lot of other Pontiac enthusiasts. His dad is probably rolling in his grave! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

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Yep, it's official (along with 21,000 more job cuts) https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif

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This is a photo of Bill's '70 in front of Causley Pontiac (on Gratiot in Clinton Township) This was, in better times, the #1 Pontiac Dealership (in terms of sales) in the world!


BTW...EVERY vehicle that Bill and I have ever had owned, both new and used, have been a GM product and we have been VERY pleased with all of them! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif Bill's last 3 trucks have been GMC's. Here's a picture I took of him (being silly https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif) the day he picked up his last one:
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This announcement is going to be a bummer for him https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif, as I'm sure a lot of other Pontiac enthusiasts. His dad is probably rolling in his grave! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

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Wait a minute Rita; I know there was a 69 Roadrunner in your garage for, like, a week or so! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Sorry; just trying to bring a smile on this day of doom for the Detroit area.

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

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Wait a minute Rita; I know there was a 69 Roadrunner in your garage for, like, a week or so! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Sorry; just trying to bring a smile on this day of doom for the Detroit area.

Bashton
MCACN Managing Member

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LOL Bob! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif Just another wonderful day in Detroit, huh? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif At least the weather is nice! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Actually, that Road Runner was a project...or as I call it, Bill's "therapy" https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif and it was in Bill's dad's garage https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif
That was shortly after Bill's dad passed away. I had a hard time even being there that day. Here's Bill working on it...God, does he look HOT in those coveralls! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/laugh.gif (sorry, thinking out loud https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif)

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