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Lee Stewart 08-29-2020 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by earntaz (Post 1512455)
Is that the one that was five inches narrower and back of roof had a "spoiler" on it??

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If there were an Oscars for motorsports cheating, the statuette would be cast wearing a cut-down cowboy hat and smoking a pipe. The flat-hat-wearing, pipe-smoking Smokey Yunick is nothing short of a folk hero to motorsports tinkerers and fans of general impishness. Stories of Yunick’s rule-bending are legion. And some of them are even true. But even by his stratospheric standards, Yunick’s NASCAR Chevrolet Chevelles of the late 1960s were something special. So shrouded in folklore are these black-and-gold Chevys that people believed they were 7/8th scale models. They weren’t. Instead, they were full-size vehicles with a multitude of subtle and clever modifications, some of which were not exactly by the book.

The chassis used in 1967 had been custom-built by Chevrolet, which was then providing back-door support to certain racers, including Yunick. It had a reworked suspension and a roll cage that, tied to the stiff frame, made it effectively a tube-frame racer. Chevy also undertook an exhaustive aerodynamic study of the Chevelle’s body on behalf of Yunick’s car. It easily took pole position for the 1967 Daytona 500 against well-funded factory teams from Ford and Chrysler. But engine problems cut its race short, and it was heavily damaged in a severe crash shortly thereafter. But in 1968, Smokey came back with another Chevelle much like the 1967 car, although he built this one himself. The chassis was similar to the earlier car, with the body set back a couple of inches on the frame for better weight distribution. And the aero trickery was impressive. The chrome front bumper was deepened to act as an air dam. Rain gutters and glass trim were made flush with the body. The roof’s trailing edge was upswept like a spoiler. The underbody was smoother than stock with a modified floorpan for clean airflow. This time NASCAR called foul and banned the Chevelle from the ’68 Daytona 500 unless Yunick changed nine offending aspects of the car. The story goes that NASCAR officials even removed the fuel tank for inspection only to see Yunick start the car sans gas tank and drive it back to the pits, saying, “better make it 10.” Yunick noticed that the rule book specified a maximum volume for the fuel tank, but it didn’t say anything at all about fuel lines.

So, depending on which re-telling you believe (even Smokey had multiple versions), he replaced the normal fuel line with 11-foot-long, one- or two-inch-wide fuel line that added either two or five gallons to the car’s total fuel capacity. It’s such great story, it barely matters which version is true. As Yunick wrote in his autobiography: “Was this car a ‘cheater’ Smokey? You’re goddam right it was.”
https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsp...ts-in-history/

William 08-29-2020 07:18 PM

Smokey Yunick built 3 #13 1966 Chevelles.

#1 was built up from a pre-production car, not even a pilot build. Not his finest build: "Car had power to spare but the chassis was so !@@$# up God couldn't have drove it." Mario Andretti drove it in the '66 Daytona 500, engine blew. Sold intact, may still exist.

#2 was the car basically designed & built by Chevrolet Engineering. Curtis Turner demolished it in practice at Atlanta. Was squashed into a cube and sat in his shop for many years.

#3 This one had all the tricks learned from the others. Nascar banned it outright, wouldn't even allow it on a track for tire testing. Yunick sold it, got it back in the '70s' restored it in the '80s. Still exists. He never raced it anywhere.

His book "Best Damn Garage in Town" is a must read for any Chevy guy.

Lee Stewart 08-30-2020 01:53 AM

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A full restoration and dual top make this '62 'Vette the perfect addition for any collection, but this car is equipped with one of the rarest options available for the C1's final model year making it even more collectible.

Of the 14,531 Corvettes built in 1962, only 1,532 were equipped with the Powerglide two-speed automatic transmission like this one is.

Lee Stewart 08-30-2020 01:55 AM

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Lynn 08-30-2020 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart (Post 1512396)

I don't get it. Chevy got it right. Grill should be silver, grill surround should be body color, and stripes should continue over the upper valance and the cowl panel.

Its not that hard.

Lynn 08-30-2020 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart (Post 1512432)

Is this Smokey Yunick's old Chevelle? I remember reading about it back in the day. The template use to make sure no one was cheating didn't fit it. But then they put the template on a stock Chevelle, and it didn't fit that car either.

Some claimed Smokeys car was a 15/16 version of the Chevelle. Regardless, knowing Smokey, I am certain that there was some rule bending going on. "Just gettin competitive" is what he said; I think it was in regard to the fuel tank size rule. He DID run the correct size, but then snaked a 1/2 inch fuel line all around the underside of the car, so he would in effect have an extra gallon of gas.


EDIT: OK, so I am a little late to the party. I had not read all the other posts about this car when I posted. I always go back to the last post I viewed on this thread and read forward.

Lee Stewart 08-30-2020 04:21 AM

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Ah . . . the Aston Martin DB5. It is one of a dozen DB models: from the DB1 to the DB11 and another six with the last DB being the DBX. So what exactly does DB stand for? DB are the initials of David Brown, the man who bought Aston Martin in the 1940s. And, of course, he decided that some of the products should bear his name as proof of his ownership.

Lee Stewart 08-30-2020 04:48 AM

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Lee Stewart 08-30-2020 04:57 AM

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Ever seen one of these? 1970 Hemi 'Cuda with Fury 15" Sport Wheel Covers. It's . . . unique. Not available from the factory on a 'Cuda but you could have bought them through the Parts Dept. Not sure it's a real Hemi 'Cuda. Should not have that Barracuda emblem on the fender. Also the rocker panel molding isn't correct

Lee Stewart 08-30-2020 05:04 AM

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They definitely look better where they belong

Lee Stewart 08-30-2020 05:16 AM

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1968 was the first model year that Chrysler made 15" wheels standard when you ordered the HEMI. There was no 15 "mag" wheel option in 68 so if you didn't want the standard hub caps you could order these 15" wheel covers from the Monaco/Polara. Only one hiccup: you had to have ordered PFDB. Not available for HEMI cars with Drum/Power Drum Brakes. Those got the hub caps.

Lee Stewart 08-30-2020 05:24 AM

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The infamous "Recall" wheels. Chryslers stillborn attempt to offer a 14"/15" aluminum wheel. The wheels were cancelled months before the Charger Daytona made it's debut so they are not correct for this car. But they could have been ordered on an R/T or a Charger 500.

Lee Stewart 08-30-2020 05:34 AM

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So Chrysler still doesn't have a 15" mag" wheel for it's HEMI cars. Right after the recall Chrysler once again made the Monaco/Polara 15" wheel covers optional

Lee Stewart 08-30-2020 05:54 AM

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We got any Paul Harvey fans here? And now . . . the rest of the story . . .

As per a letter dated September 13, 1968 to all Dodge dealers, all cars that have been delivered to the dealership with W23 wheels (14" and 15"), the dealer is to remove them (all 5) and replace them with (4) 14" Chrome Road Wheels and as ordered tires along with a matching sized plain wheel spare. The 1969 models would be available for sale September 19, 1968.

The wheels on this HEMI Charger 500 are 1968 style not 69. They should have trim rings.

Lee Stewart 08-30-2020 06:18 AM

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So if you go to a car show and see a HEMI 1969 Charger R/T, Charger 500, Coronet R/T or a Super Bee and it's wearing 14" Chrome Road Wheels, instead of thinking "those are the wrong wheels" you might inquire if the car was ordered with 15" W23 Styled Road Wheels (Recall Wheels).

This 1969 Charger 500 has the correct 14" Chrome Road Wheels - it's just not a HEMI.

NOTE: I assume that Plymouth had the exact same program.

Lee Stewart 08-30-2020 07:24 AM

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Looks like we're going to have to blast.

Keith Seymore 08-30-2020 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart (Post 1512449)

I regret that I have but one "thanks" to give to this...

K

Lee Stewart 08-30-2020 04:59 PM

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I want to thank all of you for steering me onto those subjects that warrant a thanks. I aim to please and I need your help. I try new subject matter - some are embraced by you while others fall by the wayside. I still want to experiment and will continue to do so. So when you feel the post deserves a thanks, hit that button!

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Keith Seymore 08-30-2020 06:37 PM

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Looks like we're going to have to blast.

PSA:

I just had something similar to this happen with the car skates.

I was dragging the Chevelle sans power train out of the trailer and into the garage to receive its new motor. I didn't know this but if the rear wheels are free to rotate they will come off the car skate and wedge the skate between the tire and rocker in the wheel opening like this rock.

I was able to quickly straighten the rocker out and cover it with some black vinyl so it's barely noticeable but the moral of the story is the rear wheels do better by being locked either by being in park or with the park brake (neither of which were available to me).

Having the axles locked together via a spool probably didn't help, either.

K

Lee Stewart 08-31-2020 02:51 AM

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67since67 08-31-2020 03:21 AM

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Wow!

x77-69z28 08-31-2020 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart (Post 1512449)

He crossed the center line, so he would be disqualified!
Buddy

67since67 08-31-2020 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart (Post 1512618)

What could possibly go wrong here??? :eek2:

When I was about that age I took out the driver's side windshield of my Grandfather's '48 Chevy coupe with a baseball at a distance similar to where that green Caddy is parked.

Then, had to go in and stand tall with a confession.:(

cruiserofland 08-31-2020 05:08 AM

Better pitch him away...

R68GTO 08-31-2020 09:54 AM

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Wow!

No kidding right? I can't believe he has the grain direction wrong!:no:

Dave Rifkin 08-31-2020 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by x77-69z28 (Post 1512624)
He crossed the center line, so he would be disqualified!
Buddy

I think the red car jumped the start; he would've lost right there.

Lee Stewart 08-31-2020 01:13 PM

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Keith Seymore 08-31-2020 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by x77-69z28 (Post 1512624)
He crossed the center line, so he would be disqualified!
Buddy

You are correct, but props to the kid for not lifting!

K

Keith Seymore 08-31-2020 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 67since67 (Post 1512626)
What could possibly go wrong here??? :eek2:

When I was about that age I took out the driver's side windshield of my Grandfather's '48 Chevy coupe with a baseball at a distance similar to where that green Caddy is parked.

Then, had to go in and stand tall with a confession.:(

This was me, sunup til sundown (or later) all summer.

I wish I had a dollar for every time I broke the street light out in front of our house.

K

Lee Stewart 08-31-2020 02:48 PM

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mssl72 08-31-2020 08:12 PM

Ok, that's one way to learn...

Mr70 08-31-2020 08:34 PM

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Mr70:I read somewhere by one of the Z-16 authority's,that although similar,the Z-16 did NOT use the 1965 Chevelle Convertibles' exact boxed frame.It did resemble it though.Also the Brakes were NOT Impala 11" brakes,but similar as well.
Both were unique to the Z-16 Chevelle.

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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart (Post 1512094)
Can you provide some links for that info?

Why would Chevrolet use one-off items like a frame and brakes as opposed to using existing items like the Chevelle convertible boxed frame and the Impala 11" brakes? Production was always going to be 200 cars. All the Chevy notes:

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OK,Jeff was kind enough to clear this up.Thank you Jeff.

By jeffschevelle:
The Z-16 frame has a different part number due to a different front cross member (there could be other differences but that is the only one I am sure about) They started using the Z-16 cross member in all the frames later in the year,but did not change the part numbers as a result.
So the Z-16 frame part number remains a Z-16 only item.

The rear brakes are entirely interchangeable with a 65 Impala.The rear axle housing has Impala size tubes and bearing housings and flanges on the end. The axles are Z-16 only (Chevelle length with Impala diameter).

On the front brakes everything inside the drum is interchangeable, but the spindle, backing plate and drum are Z-16 only. You can use an Impala drum with Impala wheels, but a Z-16 wheel will not fit on an Impala front drum. The front brake hoses are 1st gen Nova.

Lee Stewart 08-31-2020 09:36 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
The new cross member would of course make sense as this was the first time a big block was installed in a Chevelle.

The rear is a shortened Impala.

spindle, backing plate and drum are Z-16 only. I wonder why this was. Impala standard wheels were 14 x 5 with wagons getting 14 x 6. You could order the 6" wheels under RPO P12 with mandated 8.25x14 tires.

big gear head 08-31-2020 10:17 PM

Because the Impala had a 5 on 5 bolt pattern?

The Chevelle has a different rear suspension from the Impala, so it would have been a Chevelle rear end with Impala tubes, or the frame would have been modified for the Impala suspension. I would bet that it just had Impala tubes.

Lee Stewart 08-31-2020 11:12 PM

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When the bones of the early armored dinosaur Scelidosaurus were unearthed in 1858 in west Dorset, England, they comprised the first complete dinosaur skeleton ever identified. Scelidosaurus, which lived about 193 million years ago, was an early member of the evolutionary lineage that led to the dinosaur group called ankylosaurs. Ankylosaurs were so heavily armored - some even wielding a bony club at the end of their tails - that they are dubbed the tank dinosaurs.

Lee Stewart 08-31-2020 11:14 PM

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Have you seen this artifact on your HDTV? It's called Color Banding. It's a result of HD's low 8 bit color depth - the same color depth used in standard definition TV.


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