Re: Yellow Canadian L89
 

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The person who ordered the performance cars at Belmont Chev does not recognize this yellow L89 as being one of the cars that the dealer received

[/ QUOTE ] I have two RI hiperf cars [ and a copo camaro]that the guy that ordered them doesnt remember,You cant expect someone to remember every car they dealt with 40 years ago. Just because soemone doesnt remember a specific car, doesnt mean it didnt exist. I would say anyone that is interested in that L89,pay 40 damn dollars and get the paperwork, it will show the dealer and there will be no refuting anything if the dealer on the canada paperwork comes up as Belmont. I mean do you think someone is actually going to claim a car has canadfa paperwork, and then have you contact gm canada and find out it wasnt,seems ridiculous.

Re: Yellow Canadian L89
 

The GM of Canada paperwork merely states that the information applies to serial number such and such. No one comes out and verifies that your car is the real deal and not a fake. I have the paperwork for our two Chevelles. Nice to have but just part of the documentation. Any car needs to be checked out VERY carefully.....especially these days. In the last couple of days a guy recognized his old Chevelle on e-bay. It amazingly has the original engine that he didn't sell the car with. Someone else did the restoration too. AMAZING. People with legitimate cars should be more than glad to send their cars through the baptism of fire on the Yenko.net or Chevelles.com websites. Not much gets past these guys. I think that what the Belmont guy might be saying is that this car may not be on the list. The UVIP on '69 el Camino only goes back 3 owners. This indicates that it came from out of province before the first guy bought it. The Camaro may have come into Ontario at some point.;)

Re: Yellow Canadian L89
 

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...do you think someone is actually going to claim a car has canada paperwork, and then have you contact gm canada and find out it wasnt,seems ridiculous...

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I want to be clear I'm only addressing Chuck's statement above and in no way referring to the Camaro of this thread...but check this link out, no not GM Canada paperwork that was forged but as close as it gets, PHS docs..
And the fraudulent document part is all I'm pointing out...the rest of this situation and why this buyer recv'd what he did is a different story on it's own..

http://reviews.ebay.ca/GTO-JUDGE-SCA...:-1:LISTINGS:1

Otherwise, I believe Keith's comments above about 'these days' are right on...sad yes but what things have become in today's world of values..

~ Pete
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Re: Yellow Canadian L89
 

The odd thing to me is most believe every non doc,wrong drivetrain X44 is a real copo as long as a hole, fuel line or heater box appear with it , but have a hard time with a canada paper car. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

Re: Yellow Canadian L89
 

More information about the L89 Camaro sold through Belmont Chev. The L89 was confirmed again TODAY by GM of Canada as that serial number Camaro being delivered to Belmont Chev with those options. The guy still does not remember the car being at Belmont Chev and suggests that it may have been done as a Central Office Production Order instead; then still going to that dealer for the customer to pick up.
As Terry would say 'appears to be the real deal'.

Re: Yellow Canadian L89
 

Being an RPO, there doesn't seem to be any reason for this to be a COPO deal.

This fake car is for sale again.
http://www.cars-on-line.com/gen3-car.../posting/89129

Now owned by a company in Keswick Ontario. If anyone in the US buys this they will have a hard time taking to court a company that probably has no assets. I believe I know who built it, who they got the donor body from etc.

Yes, the story of how this car was created is known to a small group of dedicated Camaro guys.

I was just checking that car out yesterday. SUCKS that it's a repop/copy!!!!

Just as bad as the Rag LS-6.

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthrea...61#post1276261

Too bad, those are nice cars if they owners were just up front and told the customers what they are, IF THEY REALLY KNOW THEMSELVES?????

Yellow L89 Camaro VIN 124379N553588
 

Here is a picture of the VIN tag from the dash. This picture is in the listing on the Cars-On-Line ad.

There in no picture of the Trim Tag. VIN 124379N553588

Attachment 95077

Looks new, not a surprise.

Tag used to have some blatant errors on it. Curious if it's been 'fixed'.

124379N553588

fake canadian docs?

The VIN was built by GM as a real L89. Car disappeared many years ago, with no trace. Was revived based on the Canadian Docs, but VIN and trim tag are said to have been reproduced and affixed to a body which had nothing to do with the original VIN or tags.

I am not stating this as first hand knowledge, just what I have learned researching the back ground history as this car was offered to me for purchase.

It is my understanding that there is virtually nothing from the original car included.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...o/2006192.html

Anyone willing to elaborate more on this car? A friend of a friend has interest. My thought is you couldn't build it for $70k. If it runs n drives well, drive it and have a good time.

What might happen if the real Daytona Yellow L89 Camaro surfaces at some point, perhaps after a long slumber in someone's garage or basement?

Would it be a case of musical chairs... a problem for the owner of the car at that time? Or would it also be a problem for anyone that owned the car after the time it was recreated?

Such a scenario can get very messy. Usually the original hidden VINs override the public VINs especially if supported by a chain of ownership.

Since its a Canadian car and a VIN search was performed, at that point another car with that VIN did not exist in the public eye.

The two guys who found the car have this one for sale now.

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=146647

Maybe they can answer any questions about the history of the Camaro ?

Paperwork
 

Well window sticker is for sure a repro, I'll look over Vintage paperwork a little more thoroughly.

Paul

Issues like this happen in Shelbyland often. Car is totaled, VIN tag used to create another car, totaled car is repaired with same VIN. Ouch.....

Shelbyland........recently in a land not to far away a believed long lost Shelby Mustang is unentombed, when the original owner dies.

A Shelby history search is performed by the Registrar and the car same car exists in another state with a different owner. Had the car for many years, show accolades and all. The Shelby Club member had stolen the identity of the car as no history had ever been reported. Fake Tags and VINs stamped on aprons.

The original car, still owned by the original family / estate, along with original tags even had an original build sheet still in the car.

Wow!!

That's awful!

Realistically, the fake car only had one of three:
- documentation (Marti Report) - yes, could even have Lois E's factory docs
- ownership history from new (or a long time) with contacts - probably not
- expert inspection certification (generally can spot wrong characters & welds) - probably not

There are cars in the Cobra registry that have 2 cars riding around with the same vin on them & they are so noted in the public registry.

This one is different. There was no wrecked car to take tags from. They got the cars info off another GM of Canada sheet before they started blacking out parts of the list. There is nothing from the orig L89 that vin belonged to on this car.

Charley or others, question for you guys who are "in-the'know":

Could the site have a area, not just a thread, that people can post cars, either good or bad, for future reference.

Much like the "dealer" section that then breaks down by some dealers? Maybe like it by manufacturers and then post cars that are known legit, and like the Chevelle and Camaro list here, are posted as a known "problem" or rebody or outright scam. The site that could be the keep of know fakes, good one and also when bodys and engine are reunited....

Just a thought. Even post VIN's as well

Great idea!
Buddy

Yellow CDN L89
 

Wondering what ever happened to this car?

The 69 L89 is still here just sold again 3 months ago for $90k

Interesting thread...I've had a quick speed read through it and will make a casual comment. My neighbour back in small town Saskatchewan owned a yellow '69 L89 Camaro, which I have made mention of here previously. I don't know if this is the same car but there are too many similarities to ignore. Rod's car had a yellow houndstooth interior, a 4 speed and 4:10 gears that I can attest to.

Rod L bought the Camaro after he sold his '65 4 speed Buick Wildcat...Here's the Camaro story as told to me by Rod a few years ago and from my impressionable memory back then.

In Late '69 or early '70 Rod sold his Wildcat and bought the Camaro off a used car lot in Alberta. Initially, the car was a high school graduation present (from Grandma) for some lucky kid in Southern Saskatchewan. The car scared him and he 'got rid of it'...

Rod, our neighbour, was the second owner and lived/worked in Calgary Alberta at the time. One of his buddies at the time owned a '69 428 4 speed CJ Mach I that I eventually bought from him. The two of them used to street race and thrashed the hell out of their cars.

Time goes on...Rod sells his Camaro, Dennis sells his Mach I (to me) and the L89 engine out of Rod's Camaro eventually ends up in a jet boat here in BC. Whomever ended up with the Camaro discovers it's 'kind of rare' and looks for the engine, finds it and re-unites it with the car.

Years ago Rod sent me a picture of him and his old Camaro at the 'World of Wheels' show in Calgary. I still have that picture somewhere in this computer. Rod is still alive and strangely has moved back into his parents house next door to where mine used to live. Rod told me the car was making its rounds on the show car circuit and ended up with a collector in the USA.

The last time I saw and spoke to Rod was at my Aunt's Celebration of Life in September of 2016. Although Rod's health is failing, he's still with us and will be able to shed more light on his old Camaro if need be. :-)

The car in this thread has a black standard interior, so probably not the same car.

Would like to hear more about Rods car, in another thread with pictures if possible. May still be around. Unlikely that a car like that would be put back on the road and driven into the ground after being on the show circuit.

There is a car that fits this story to a T.......with a couple exceptions.

Ted Brooks Chevrolet in Calgary sold a yellow/yellow houndstooth, 4spd, L72 COPO RS

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/mscp...evy-camaro-rs/

Huh ? One is a L89 and the other a COPO...

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The RS Copo is 124379N650313
These two Yellow Canada cars have been mixed up before, this thread from last summer has some good info...
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthre...1452715&nojs=1


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~ Pete

I'll never say never but I was commenting on Zapper68's post about a yellow/yellow, 4spd, 4:10 L89.

I'm a native Calgarian and have never heard of this L89, would be cool if it exists.

Any Yellow/yellow 69 is hard to miss.

The COPO is well known and other locals like rszmjt can vouch for it.

I'm going to try to contact Rod today and if possible ask him to send me an email with more info re; his '69 Camaro. If nothing else it will be the perfect opportunity to wish him Happy New Year.

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Thanks and all info best laid out to keep track for clear results in the end.
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~ Pete



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Cal (Zapper68) asked me to post this picture. Sorry about the poor quality but its all we have.

Thanks for sending the photo Zapper68!

That is the COPO RS I posted the article about when owned by Len Perham of CA.

At the time of this photo it was owned by rszmjt's friend Dennis here in Calgary. When the car was restored the trunk spoiler was added, it did not originally come with it.

The neon sign says COPO in the centre.

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I scooped this from your 2014 posting Rick, Pg.2 of same thread linked above or again here...
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthre...=129730&page=2
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~ Pete

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