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Belair62 01-23-2006 07:14 PM

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I was surprised the Banshee didn't bring more than $195K

[/ QUOTE ] I agree John....there were so many styling ques taken from this car later on....very cool....

Canucklehead 01-23-2006 09:25 PM

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I could'nt believe that fugly polara that Coddington did got more money then the motion car or even the foose car, granted it was for charity but $500 for charity on maybe a $100k car thats pretty generous, consider that the 2006 shelby got $700k for a $45k car too. I also noticed how BJ and Codington like to hold hands and skip through the flowers together. The talk about great builders with codingtons name always on top and foose's name begrudingly mentioned if at all on the bottom of the list. Hmmmmm seems to be something going on here.

LS6M22 01-23-2006 11:02 PM

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Yup both the BM camaro and the six shooter are built by Time machines right in my home town.I seen both very personally.IMHO neither car is worth over 100K.I think there was some hanky panky going on with both bids.I agree with all its not fair how much time they spent on the BM car but others not.Very shady!

Belair62 01-23-2006 11:47 PM

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If you look at the BM Camaro from 50 feet away you could see there was a helluva lot more than 100k to build...

JoeG 01-23-2006 11:47 PM

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Wow--I guess then half the auction was shady....
If you go by what you or anybody else thinks cars or property or houses or apartments are supposed to be worth---You'd better get a bigger cryin towel It's what someone is willing to pay and if you want it you put up "MO MONEY"--Simple----As far as time given to certain people or cars---------------Listen, some of these car builders and car designers are icons and I have no problem with letting them sit in the first row --They contributed to the car hobby more than you or I ever will----People are out of touch with the cost of products and services today and the large demand on them...

Dave Castine 01-23-2006 11:51 PM

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Lets get 20 guys to go in on this 27.9 actual mile '70 LS6 Chevelle I'm selling and we can bring it to BJ next year!!! LOL... now the $400+k price doesn't seem all that nuts... wait, let me check my wallet...CRAP!

CLICK HERE TO SEE THE CAR...

Dave C
[email protected]
781.245.6601 https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/hmmm.gif

Mr70 01-23-2006 11:56 PM

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Shameless plug..https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

71-LS6 01-24-2006 12:07 AM

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I spoke to a lot of nervous sellers in the staging lanes.A lot of cars weren't bringing the money and there were some good buys late.

That was my gut instinct also, once the results are tabulated, it will be interesting to compare this year's dollar amounts to last year's. My guess is that maybe we're hitting a plateau for a while.

JoeG 01-24-2006 12:13 AM

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That "no reserve clause" is no fun for the seller...

musclecarjohn 01-24-2006 12:55 AM

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Yup both the BM camaro and the six shooter are built by Time machines right in my home town.I seen both very personally.IMHO neither car is worth over 100K.I think there was some hanky panky going on with both bids.I agree with all its not fair how much time they spent on the BM car but others not.Very shady!

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Again...does ANYONE know why the 6-shooter was sold TWICE???

I mentioned to a friend I thought B-J might have to consider getting away from "no reserve" and his answer was "how can they go backwards".

Good answer...what does everyone else think?

GTO_DON 01-24-2006 12:57 AM

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Shameless plug..https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

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Jeff H 01-24-2006 01:38 AM

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Yup both the BM camaro and the six shooter are built by Time machines right in my home town.I seen both very personally.IMHO neither car is worth over 100K.I think there was some hanky panky going on with both bids.I agree with all its not fair how much time they spent on the BM car but others not.Very shady!

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Again...does ANYONE know why the 6-shooter was sold TWICE???

I mentioned to a friend I thought B-J might have to consider getting away from "no reserve" and his answer was "how can they go backwards".

Good answer...what does everyone else think?

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They said there was a problem with the first auction and the deal couldn't be done(probably bidder didn't have the money or backed out). So they ran it again and the interest was much lower.

JoeG 01-24-2006 01:45 AM

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Yup both the BM camaro and the six shooter are built by Time machines right in my home town.I seen both very personally.IMHO neither car is worth over 100K.I think there was some hanky panky going on with both bids.I agree with all its not fair how much time they spent on the BM car but others not.Very shady!

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Again...does ANYONE know why the 6-shooter was sold TWICE???

I mentioned to a friend I thought B-J might have to consider getting away from "no reserve" and his answer was "how can they go backwards".

Good answer...what does everyone else think?

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There was talk among the commentators , that the list of no reserve cars was so long that even if you were selling a car with a reserve,the no reserves were given preference and they filled the list of cars to be shown.---It was a bottom line thing---But if you have people who are willing to go for it , it's money in the bank for BJ-----I think the six shooter went for a little less money the second time around.....

Grusum 01-24-2006 03:34 AM

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It's my understanding that you can't even get a bidders pass unless you have either the money or financing up front. So the deal didn't fizzle because of a 'no-money' issue.

Jeff H 01-24-2006 03:40 AM

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It's my understanding that you can't even get a bidders pass unless you have either the money or financing up front. So the deal didn't fizzle because of a 'no-money' issue.

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Unless the bidder had already bought a car and didn't have any money left! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif I don't know the details, but they said there was a problem with the original auction and the deal couldn't be closed so they ran it through again. It bid over $170K the first time and I think $132K the second time.

musclecarjohn 01-24-2006 06:28 AM

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It's my understanding that you can't even get a bidders pass unless you have either the money or financing up front. So the deal didn't fizzle because of a 'no-money' issue.

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True...but everyone has a credit limit,well maybe not everyone https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...arleySucks.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...elairSucks.gif

MBNA is the only card B-J accepts and their minimum credit line is $30K.

Possibly the 1st buyer of the 6-shooter went over his limit.
Still,the seller probably wasn't too happy about going off @ 3:30 on Sunday...and for $40K less. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

LS6M22 01-24-2006 07:18 AM

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Wow--I guess then half the auction was shady....
If you go by what you or anybody else thinks cars or property or houses or apartments are supposed to be worth---You'd better get a bigger cryin towel It's what someone is willing to pay and if you want it you put up "MO MONEY"--Simple----As far as time given to certain people or cars---------------Listen, some of these car builders and car designers are icons and I have no problem with letting them sit in the first row --They contributed to the car hobby more than you or I ever will----People are out of touch with the cost of products and services today and the large demand on them...

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Well I agree on the demand and money thing but as far as big names bring cars to the table I have to disagree with the "new" BM car and 6-shooter.The BM car is a far cry from the REAL ones of the 60s and 70s as those cars were built in Baldwin By Motion.Time Machines in Hudson are just a custom resto shop like many others in the world and they were lucky to get the contract.I know a lot of guys who worked on that car and I can tell you the car without the name would have went for a lot less then 450K.A LOT less!Personally I dont see that car as a true Baldwin Motion car and I feel that its just another nice custom(Foosed up looking)car.Please no flames but this is my honest opinion. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

JIM 01-24-2006 07:36 AM

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I lent Charlie 3 million to buy the Futureliner, I don't know what happened ? Those Million Dollar Bills Shure looked Real. Heck Even Craig liked them. Charlie we could of been riding!!! Jim https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Charley Lillard 01-24-2006 08:01 AM

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I tipped one of the security girls 1 mil

Jeff H 01-24-2006 04:47 PM

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I tipped one of the security girls 1 mil

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So that's what they're calling them now, security girls! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

What's the story behind the Hemi Hunter 68 Mustang 428 car? Was it a dealer modified thing? It really surprised me to see that go for more than the Shelby Mustangs. I guess that would make it a supercar since they claimed 556 hp.

mockingbird812 01-24-2006 05:30 PM

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It's my understanding that you can't even get a bidders pass unless you have either the money or financing up front. So the deal didn't fizzle because of a 'no-money' issue.

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At R&S auction you automatically get a bidders pass if you consign a car with them. They do not ask for any credit info. Not sure how it works with consigners at Barret.

Canucklehead 01-24-2006 07:29 PM

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Nov 15/05, Wallstreet 3:30pm:
"hey Charles, im sure getting tired of these pork belly futures and citrus prices. There has got to be a better way". "Well Josh i heard that these things called muscle cars are the things to buy, and there is some place called Barrett Jackson where you go to buy them". "That sounds like a sporting idea Dave lets go to this Barrett Jackson place to buy us some of these muscle car things, pip pip".

Barrett Jackson Jan 21/05;
"Wow these cars are sure shinny Josh", "And that thingy under the hood is too and oooo look how big it is, let's buy some of these and show are friends back home". "Hey Dave that pretty blue one seems to be garnering alot of attention lets buy that one it must be good", we're going to make alot of money on these things Tee Hee, everybody will be so jealous".

So how many times do you think this scenerio went down this weekend?

JoeG 01-24-2006 11:57 PM

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Wow--I guess then half the auction was shady....
If you go by what you or anybody else thinks cars or property or houses or apartments are supposed to be worth---You'd better get a bigger cryin towel It's what someone is willing to pay and if you want it you put up "MO MONEY"--Simple----As far as time given to certain people or cars---------------Listen, some of these car builders and car designers are icons and I have no problem with letting them sit in the first row --They contributed to the car hobby more than you or I ever will----People are out of touch with the cost of products and services today and the large demand on them...

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Well I agree on the demand and money thing but as far as big names bring cars to the table I have to disagree with the "new" BM car and 6-shooter.The BM car is a far cry from the REAL ones of the 60s and 70s as those cars were built in Baldwin By Motion.Time Machines in Hudson are just a custom resto shop like many others in the world and they were lucky to get the contract.I know a lot of guys who worked on that car and I can tell you the car without the name would have went for a lot less then 450K.A LOT less!Personally I dont see that car as a true Baldwin Motion car and I feel that its just another nice custom(Foosed up looking)car.Please no flames but this is my honest opinion. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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Those weren't flames , just talk..... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif
The name is what sells in a lot of different arenas---
As far as the Protouring design of Motion and others----I appreciate it's thinking on engineering and pushing the envelope on design, sort of like the car hobby version of factory concept cars.IMO --BUT- hopefully Motion's PhaseIV cars will satisfy our 60's appetite and what's going on at Chrsyler and Ford promise some exciting times--- maybe they'll even fix the GTO......I can dream..... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

Canucklehead 01-25-2006 07:38 PM

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I like Steve Magnante's comment on the closing credits. He said "our job here is to point out the issues with these cars and i described these cars to the best of my knowledge and if i made any mistakes or offended anybody i appoligise". I thought that was a great comment.

musclecarjohn 01-28-2006 09:20 PM

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I like Steve Magnante's comment on the closing credits. He said "our job here is to point out the issues with these cars and i described these cars to the best of my knowledge and if i made any mistakes or offended anybody i appoligise". I thought that was a great comment. [/quote

Probably still cleaning house for all the stinging comments regarding DeCadanay and Yates from last year...

Mr70 01-28-2006 09:24 PM

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Looks like they did alright this Year.
[i]"The Barrett-Jackson Collector Car Auction sold more than $100 million worth of vehicles during its six-day sale, which ended Sunday.

The sales total for about 1,100 collector cars and automobilia came to $100,061,670, including auction fees, the Scottsdale auction reported after the close of sales. Last year's total sales reached about $63 million.

"We grew more this year than we sold two years ago," said Craig Jackson, auction president.
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<u>Some other numbers reported Sunday</u>

• Six cars sold for more than $1 million, led by the 1950 Futurliner "Parade of Progress" bus that reached $4.32 million.

• 4,852 people were registered as bidders, coming from all 50 states and 14 foreign countries.

• Total line of credit for bidders exceeded $1 billion.

• Total number of women bidding: 48.

Seattle Sam 01-29-2006 12:38 AM

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Average vehicle price $90,900

Average bidder amount spent $20,200

Female bidders - less than 1% of total bidders

Average amount spent per female bidder $2,084,618!


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