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chads454Ls6 01-25-2004 07:22 PM

Re: Barrett-Jackson 2004
 
Charley,i was told that the orange copo chevelle sold for 71000.00,was that what bidding got to and did not meet reserve? also,where there any yenko camaros,chevelles,or novas that went through? Chad

SamLBInj 01-25-2004 08:12 PM

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Geeze Charley, If I knew you were hawkin my truck I would have bought you a beer! Cellar Dwellers and Bottom Feeders..LOL https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif
https://www.yenko.net/attachments/67278-2004%20018.jpg

Mr70 01-25-2004 09:12 PM

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I know Stefano owned an Orange Manual trans. COPO Chevelle,last digits were #270.
The one that sold at B/J has an Auto. on Column.
I wonder if that one was Jeff L.'s old Chevelle?
Anyone copy the VIN# on that one?
Rick

01-25-2004 09:56 PM

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Looks like it was one of Harry's old cars. I think it is interesting how the customs and slightly modified cars are selling faster and for more money than the completely stock cars are. I guess it has a lot to do with what people perceive as enjoyable.

rpoz11 01-26-2004 12:05 AM

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Was this Brown COPO car one that belonged to Ty from TAB?? This is the Van Nuys Brown Open Eye'd Endura Camaro Im asking about...https://www.yenko.net/attachments/669...sday%20049.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Belair62 01-26-2004 01:19 AM

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What did the BUrnished RS COPO sell for ? I thought it went well over 100k...........

RLS_Jr 01-26-2004 01:28 AM

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I thought the Yenko Z06 was a good buy at 81k.Anyone from this site buy it?
Ron

madmax 01-26-2004 01:31 AM

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The bidding was appearently up to 89k and stalled out
reserve 110 , did not sell.
Sort of disapointing you might think.

This is what some press guy had to say below!

HOT OFF THE PRESS REPORT FROM THE BARRETT-JACKSON
Mark C Bach

Well folks the Barrett-Jackson auction is in full swing. 3,000
bidders
(paying $300 a pass) were expected over the four days to bid overly
$30
million on cars. If you had access to the Speed Channel on cable you
saw
expanded coverage including an eye ball popping six hours on Friday
alone! Thursday had a light rain but didn't detract too many folks
from
coming and the cloudy skies on Friday morning soon departed to a
brilliant sunny day. Barrett Jackson had to scurry to find some
pumps to
remove some rain water and a few spots were "slippery when wet" (after
all, the main sale area is a polo field) but Barrett Jackson, as
always
kept a firm hand on things and had a great first two days of
auctioneering.

No surprise that a 69 brown Camaro "COPO" that didn't sell at last
week's
Silver Auction was at Barrett-Jackson, where it didn't sell AGAIN!
Ouch,
the bidder had a $110,000 reserve at Silver and after failing to raise
sufficient interest, was in the unsold corral with a requested price
of
$99,995 (heck why not ask for an even $100K?). I'm not sure this COPO
will ever sell that high when outfitted with a burnt brown paint, but
of
course if you paint it a more eye appealing color, you lose the
authenticity.

69_BM_LS7 01-26-2004 01:43 AM

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The RS/Copo did $132,000 plus buyer fee.

Belair62 01-26-2004 01:45 AM

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That's what I thought...so what Burnished car are they referring to in the above post ? The clone ?

Jeff H 01-26-2004 01:56 AM

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Does it seem stupid that someone wanted to pay $132K at BJ when the same car was on Ebay several times for $115K. I'll bet that is one of the bid up cars without a new owner.

madmax 01-26-2004 02:05 AM

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Brown Copo ????
Well I do not know for sure , just going by reports I read

check this link the same reporter as my last post!!
http://www.carnewz.com/camaros/index.htm

Is ther a list of the sold cars at bj and what they sold for
I cant seam to find it on their site??

madmax 01-26-2004 02:14 AM

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I just noticed on the link by the picture on it , that the car that guy talks about is not the same brown copo.

So the rs one did sell for 132,000? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

BillD 01-26-2004 03:11 AM

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My two cents on this sale with no owner change. I can't believe that anyone would send a valuable car through with no reserve..............unless you had a friend bidding it up for you. So my suspicious mind says that big $ sales on no reserve cars are questionable. But, I hope all the big prices are true and that the value of my cars get dragged up by it. However, until my car is sold and the money is in my back pocket, I haven't done anything. I have a friend who was counting his money on his Ferrari 275 GTB? Had an offer of 470000 years ago and turned it down, it dropped as low as 200000 and it is now a 250000 car. You just don't know what is going to happen. Fortunately, I like the cars, and want to have them. If I make money on them fine, if not, oh well, you only live once and I get pleasure from them.

rpoz11 01-26-2004 03:33 AM

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Im looking at the standard silver grill - NON - RS Burnished Brown Van Nuys COPO that Charley Lillard posted an image of; apparently as stated: currently the only known LA COPO doumented COPO Camaro. One of these, 99% exactly alike this above image, was in a showroom here in Orange, California off and on for a year or so... I inquired wondering if this might have been that car <P> https://www.yenko.net/attachments/669...sday%20049.jpg <P> https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Jim Mulvey 01-26-2004 03:35 AM

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A perfect example of the Barrett-Jackson effect:

Ebay auction yesterday high bid was $29,000 sold today for $57,000!

Bandit 01-26-2004 03:39 AM

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Another "hidden bidder" auction. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

budnate 01-26-2004 04:11 AM

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watch his new listing, NR.

69L89RAG 01-26-2004 04:36 AM

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Is your friend still trying to sell the 275GTB? If he is let me know.

Thanks

69L89RAG 01-26-2004 05:21 AM

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Charlie did you know how much the Coddington built car sold for?

Thanks

BillD 01-26-2004 11:56 AM

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He has had the 275 for around 30 years now, paid somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 K for it, and probably plans on being buried in it.

69L89RAG 01-26-2004 03:04 PM

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Thanks. If he wants to sell please let me know.

SamLBInj 01-26-2004 04:01 PM

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[ QUOTE ]
A perfect example of the Barrett-Jackson effect:

Ebay auction yesterday high bid was $29,000 sold today for $57,000!

[/ QUOTE ]
If you look at the bids you will notice that the car was stagnate at 28,800. on the 22nd, then on the 24th after the auction it took off, this is a number 2 car as described by owner. If you look at the car it has some issues as per correctness. I think they saw what happened on B-J and bid it up themselves so the car wasnt "gave away". Sure a confusing time for any 69 Z/28 owner. Now the big question, What are they really worth?
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gifSam

njsteve 01-27-2004 01:42 AM

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Charlie, any idea what the 70 Hemi Charger (lot 641) went for? I need to update my insurance policy! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

njsteve 01-27-2004 01:45 AM

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[ QUOTE ]
Charlie, any idea what the 70 Hemi Charger (lot 641) went for? I need to update my insurance policy! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Charley, Sorry I mispelled your name again or rather, mistyped it again.

69_BM_LS7 01-27-2004 02:05 AM

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$157,500 + buyers 8% fee.

csx289 01-27-2004 03:01 AM

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"That 1970 White GTO Judge sold for $51,300!
On its best day a Ram Air III WHITE Judge would only bring high $30's. If it was a Ram Air IV it might get that $50k.
I wish I would have sold my Judge's there "

As the former owner of this car, and the current owner of 7 other Judges, I'd have to disagree. Even though another member has stated that the car was "less than perfect" (apparently based solely on the fact that I forgot to stick on the Ram Air decals before shipping the car to the auction, and having now Fed Ex'd them to the new owner with digital pics on where to place them), I would love to have you guys take my check book and get me EVERY 70 RAIII 4 speed Judge in this condition for even $40k.

For what it is worth, no , the car was not a #1, 100pt show car, but it was also not represented as such. It WAS a 100% numbers matching and original component car, and I mean ALL numbers, distributor, engine, heads, carb, radiator, water pump, alternator, starter, brake calipers,etc...the only "wrong" bits were the GM repo fan shroud (corner missing) and a new windshield to replace the one my painter fell on and cracked (don't ask,you don't want to know). It was a 36k original mile car that I did a nice driver resto on, all original panels, detailed undercarriage with NO undercoating and all correct finishes, original wheels, super strong fresh motor, all new busings, SS lines, etc.,a truly GREAT and strong car that I'd have sold to anybody. The same can not be said of most cars sold at auction, hell, the ones I buy usually can't make it to the truck!

So, if you would be so kind, don't talk out of class. If my Judge wasn't worth the $47,500 paid for it, sold NO RESERVE with no jacking or games at a live auction at 9:45 PM,on a rainy Friday night, where would you think a more realistic market price could be found?

By the way, the white/red 70 Judge Convert (M21 , 4.33 car) on display at Barrett-Jackson near the main tent that is a 3 time GTOAA Nat'l champ is, IMO, not as nice of a car as the hardtop I sold. It was a show car, but couldn't "dance" like the hardtop.The convert is also my car, so I feel safe talking about it as well.

Don't mean to piss anybody off, but I feel I have a pretty good knowledge of what the car was and was not since I owned it, restored it, and was there selling it. BUT, by all means, if you have one you think is just as nice and worth less, call me! I already regret selling the one I did. Couldn't duplicate it for the same $42k I got net.

But then again, I could always buy a bogus Z-28 for $123k, a hot rod GT500 for $286k, or any number of fakey-dos for 2-3x the money.And what about the 64-67 GTO converts that were ALL NOM, shined up cars with that sleazy "get ready for auction look" that all brought over $60k?

Regards,
Colin

Jeff H 01-27-2004 03:10 AM

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So what's the story on the bogus JL8 car? Inquiring minds want to know? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/wink.gif

njsteve 01-27-2004 03:11 AM

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Ouch! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gifIt's scary to think what these things are going for now. Interesting, that it pulled more $$ than the 70 Hemicuda. In the past the B-body Hemi Mopars have gone for less than the E-body Hemi Mopars, with the exception of the Cuda and Challenger Hemi ragtops. There is something to be said for the enjoyment factor of the bigger cars. Having had Cudas and Chargers, the Chargers are a much better riding car. And they have a trunk the size of the Cuda's engine compartment! As for rarity, Chrysler made 112 Hemi Charger R/T's in 70 (56 4 spds and 56 autos) vs. 652 of the 70 Hemicudas. I guess if I thought about it more, I wouldn't drive mine. Now I have to call my insurance guy and refigure the value on ours (It's an R/T-SE, which breaks the numbers down into the single digits. (4 four speeds and 9 automatics) - kind of like a R/S-Z28: a luxury trim option on the performance option. Thanks for the update.

csx289 01-27-2004 03:18 AM

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I think Charley pretty well covered it on the other thread.Made up car, bogus P-O-P, less than reputable seller with a really good attorney.

Oh yeah, BTW, Barrett-Jackson does not check paperwork or history, only cares if the car is shiny and you have the title and balls enough to let it rip no reserve! See no evil, hear no evil - and buyer beware because "all representations are the sellers, and not Barrett-Jacksons". What does that tell you?

Regards,
Colin

Jeff H 01-27-2004 03:22 AM

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That's what I was telling people at work who saw some of the auction coverage. BJ does not verify any of the cars and it's buyer beware. They were all surprised and thought it was "The" big auction because they stood behind the vehicles.

Bandit 01-27-2004 04:36 AM

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Congrats on your record selling Judge Colin.
I did not mean any disrespect. Please do not take it that way. I personally just think its high, just my opinion. I have had a few Judge's myself, not basket cases either. I have been following them on a daily basis for many years now.
I guess I will just have to pay a bit more for the next one. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif I have seen pics of the White Judge convert a few months back. Looks really nice. Has a proven track record too.

Stefano 01-27-2004 02:38 PM

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So What did you buy?

DaJudge 01-27-2004 04:50 PM

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Steve, I'll take all the RA IV Judges you got if they are like your old Orbit Orange car for $50K. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

csx289 01-27-2004 04:53 PM

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I didn't buy a thing at B-J (unlike The Lillard), but I did buy a 1961 Dodge Dart Phoenix with the D500 305HP Big Block at the Silver auction the prior week.

Very cool car, I bought it because it is the only one I have ever seen! It is the car on the HMN 2003 calendar for October, and it was in SIA magazine in 2000.

Push-button trans, and it chirps the tires on upshifts! Plus, we discovered that when driving home from B-J after a few drinks that the car actually drove BETTER if I took my hands off of the wheel and let IT drive - at 80 mph!

I think I saw Charley pedaling some freaky looking bicycle in the parking lot, but it was raining, and well, those drinks.... https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Belair62 01-27-2004 05:00 PM

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Colin...I want to see a pic of that Phoenix...I looked at Silver and couldn't find it...you have a link or pic ?

csx289 01-27-2004 05:11 PM

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Charley might have one...if not, I'll post it when I get home. The car is in a trailer heading to Milwaukee as we speak. I suppose Hemmings might have it posted? Maybe under Special Interest Autos index?


CC

Belair62 01-27-2004 05:14 PM

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Thats a real oddball......

Charley Lillard 01-27-2004 06:38 PM

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It really does chirp the tires at upshift into second. Cool car that will probably outrun my Yale.

Belair62 01-27-2004 07:05 PM

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where is the pic Charley ?


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