Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Found the article on the 68 Yenko with special paint. It has no paint code on trim tag just has two dashes in paint code field. They claim the car has a body broadcast sheet with “COPO 9737 1001 HA” on it . The article states that the original owner said the car came with no stripe and Yenko added a 67 style nose stripe to the car. They decoded the special COPO numbers to mean the car came with a 427 from factory. This info was later turned into a “only one on the planet” 1968 427 COPO Yenko Camaro raffle car story. I think the 1001HA is just a COPO code for special paint which in this case was stripe delete or maybe Chevy put the 67 stripe on for Yenko.

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

I have also seen a cowl tag on a '68 Z28 that had the -,- or two dashes. It was a Dark Green like the British Racing Green color I think . . .

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

I think the blue color used on the 68 Yenko camaros was dropped some time in 68 model year.It was probably current at the time the order was placed.By the time the cars went into production, it was a drop.So -- was used on the blue cars only.Earl

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

In case anyone is looking for one. Heres another 67 small block Pace car on Ebay.
67 Pace Car on ebay
1 = Chevrolet
2 = Camaro
4 = 8-cylinder engine
67 = convertible body
7 = 1967 model year
N = Norwood, OH assembly plant
208732 = vehicle serial number sequence

Decode for body number: 108377

04B = Built the Second week of April.
67-12667 = Custom Interior Convertible.
NOR = Built in Norwood Ohio.
732 = Custom Bright Blue Bucket Seats.
Z = (A50) Strato Bucket Seats.
C-1 = Lower Color is Ermine White and the Convertible Top Color is White.
R = Interior paint is Bright Blue
Options:
1W = (A02) Tinted W/S only
1D = (C06) Power top convertible
2L = (M20) 4-speed floor shifter
2G = (D55) Console front compartment
2S = (U73) Antenna Manual right rear
3L = (Z22) Rally Sport Package
4P = (L48) SS 350
- = Special Order/Fleet Code

Buy it now for 38,900. Bet it doesn't last the weekend. It's a really nice looking restoration. Bit to much for my pocketbook. It's not mine and don't know the seller. All disclaimers apply.

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

The car didn't come close to reserve..that makes me wish I bought it but also makes wonder where the market is for these cars

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Festival,

I think the market is firm if the engine is original, It is a real 0-1 car, and all of the little stuff works.

4 speed was a plus also. Almost all of the Norwood cars built during that period of (04B) production were 4 speeds.

This would have been a good car for someone to drive.

I think the money was right for this car. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

Phil

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

There were questions regarding the trim tag over on CAMAROS.NET

Still, I hope to own one someday. I just don't have the money, space or time right now. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/frown.gif

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

95 Z

I did not go to camaros.net, however I suspect that people are asking about the missing fleet code at the bottom of the trim tag. For some reason, the majority of the Norwood C-1 04B pace car replica's are not stamped with one of the accepted pace car fleet codes.

If you get a chance please post a link so I can have a look. Thanks-

Phil https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/burnout.gif

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Where's the thread on camaros? Didn't see it in Tag Team? I'd love to have a pacecar driver..Mines gonna be a big fat piece of jewelry taking up all my garage space!

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

The trim tag is the one I posted in the Supercar/Musclecar discussion on this site.
Motown https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Motown,

That is a real good look on that thread for sure, also it looks like it was sandblasted, which accounts for the current condition. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...emlins/eek.gif

Also No Norwood Pace car fleet codes present. Fleet codes for these cars were stamped like this: (Example) 4P - 050A (or) 061A.(or) 062A, (or) 070A.

Phil

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

My Norwood 04A Pacer doesn't have a fleet code..A lot don't and I don't know why? 0-1 car https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Correct...

I show assembly sequence for a 4A built Norwood car with the last three digits ending #450 as an 0-1 without fleet code.

Phil https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Phil..I've spent little time thinking about the fleet codes (probably because mine doesn't have one) Can you fill me in on how you know this and what research has been done? Is it tied in with built sheets, body broadcast stuff etc?

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Phil,

Your Festival car is 03C, right?

Mike

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Phil,

Do you ever make the trek to CA to see the "Holy Grail"?

Mike

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Hey, Matt any insight here??? You and Jim have looked at this forever. Heck, even Charley's car and the back up don't have the fleet code!!! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smirk.gif I've a got Body Broadcast on an O-1 that has 061A and a C-1 replica that has 061A on a Shipper Copy. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

Mike

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

[ QUOTE ]
Phil,

Do you ever make the trek to CA to see the "Holy Grail"?

Mike

[/ QUOTE ]Holy Grail? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

#92

Mike

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Festival,

The fleet codes were important years ago as some people were trying establish pace car ID by "fleet code" as one of the primary method (s) of early identification. This was prior to the release of the real method(s) of Identification which included the now famous stripe delete - (dash) (which sometimes) was followed by a fleet code.

Owners who suspected they had a pace car were encouraged by the now defunct USCC and others keeping registry to make contact and register the specific car's information. Later as the respective total number of 0-1 and C-1 cars became known, the risk of being able to pull off a Pace Car fake was greatly reduced. The approximate build dates, sequences, and vin # then became known which protects the identity of real cars that are out there. As it is today the known use of the fleet code is much more consistant on the C-1 LOS cars as L-181A. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Gee Phil...looks like the chin strapped keyboard eater got to you?!?

Mike

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Txindy

Key board Eater??? Anyway I see you also have the registry. Good. As for the Dan Young car, I have looked at this car at shows for over 20 years now, most recently at last fall's Chevy Vettefest.

Charlie has the car that everyone wants and sets an example for his peers to follow. The only problem is that Charlie's peers are major players which include Supercars Sixtiesmuscle and others. For the common guys like us we are lucky to see Charlie and his super pace car and let him know:

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...arleySucks.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...iggthumpup.gif

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Mr. Borris,

You seem to forget that we met at Carlisle 2002. But, that is not important. I am not important. Me...I am a small fish in a small pond. It just seems funny to me that certain people are suddenly avoiding my posts. All I am trying to do is seek the truth on these cars, just like you! Charley...from the dealings that I have had with him "seems" to be a great guy...truthfully I don't know him. He helped me identify the back up car to #92.

My problem is no one here other than SS. He knows who he is.

Mike https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Txindy,

Hell, I speak to lots of folks at car shows all over the place. It would really shock me if I had not spoken to you at some show.

What is the problem with posts?? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/rolleyes.gif

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Phil,

Email me privately...we'll talk.

Mike https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/smile.gif

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Only question I have on the car pictured above is who put the rear spoiler on the car?? Wasnt a 67 option.

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Ok Jeff,

You are officially one of Charlie's peers!!

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Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

70 COPO..Thanks. I understand but in terms of a basic explanation of the fleet codes in general..Was it a code for when GM would built multiple same optioned cars/trucks? and if so then why would my car not have one being such an " in the thick of it" o4A festival car? And why would so many LA non pacecar cars have these codes at all? Did dealers out that way save money by ordering multiples of the exact same car for themselves? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Thomas,
You need to look at that little box on the forms closer.
It says F&SO. Fleet and Special Order.

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Starbird auto show at Tulsa had a 67 there.

I took a pic of the paperwork they were displaying
One shot is all I have and i hope it can be read

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

[ QUOTE ]
The only problem is that Charlie's peers are major players which include Supercars Sixtiesmuscle and others.

[/ QUOTE ]Charley's peers are in old folks homes. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/haha.gif

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Good one Bob....

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Kurt..Fleet or Special Order..either or, the question I was trying to pose was why my car doesn't have one at all? As an O-1 tag car I would have thought that a Fleet/Special Order code would be assumed? Am I making sense with this? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...s/confused.gif

Re: 1967 Camaro Pace Car
 

Guys,

Out of 130 '67 Pace Cars on my list and printed in a spreadsheet, I have found NO similarities to the cars with the fleet codes (050A, 060A, 061A and 070A). These codes are on and not on 0-1 cars as well as C-1 cars, big block and small block cars, 4 speeds and automatic cars. My only guess is that if things were computer generated back then like they are today, then all of those cars would have had one of those codes.

Maybe Jim Mattison would remember what those codes meant . . .