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NorCam 08-08-2020 11:10 PM

No worries at all...and just for the record, this car will not be running a 302. :no:

It gets a solid roller build with an M23 trans. Inside that case is where the magic starts to happen. :3gears:


napa68 08-09-2020 02:01 PM

I double dog dare ya Graeme to show up for MCACN cocktails in those pants!

Chuck_Burg 08-09-2020 08:16 PM

There’s plenty of hipster thrift shops here in Long Beach selling vintage clothing. Day 2 plaid pants probably “worth” a couple hundred bucks today haha:naughty:

NorCam 08-09-2020 09:56 PM

You guys are funny! :haha: But it ain't happening!

rlw68 08-10-2020 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck_Burg (Post 1510032)
There’s plenty of hipster thrift shops here in Long Beach selling vintage clothing. Day 2 plaid pants probably “worth” a couple hundred bucks today haha:naughty:


Yep, these are plaid 'bell bottom' pants. Notice the guys also have colors that go with the cars. I'll do it if Graeme will...

:rolleyes2:

NorCam 08-10-2020 03:29 PM

My wife found me a pair on Amazon and said "You gotta do this when the car is finished". I'd want the hat to go with it. :grin:

https://i.ibb.co/NN6S3Nd/Yellow-Golf.jpg

tom406 08-10-2020 04:53 PM

You can't NOT wear that at MCACN when you go. A nice bright white T with yellow Auto Meter Logo would set it off:)

NorCam 08-10-2020 05:42 PM

This would be the T-shirt...

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.JX13PO...pr=1.5&pid=1.7

Chuck_Burg 08-10-2020 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorCam (Post 1510100)
My wife found me a pair on Amazon and said "You gotta do this when the car is finished". I'd want the hat to go with it. :grin:

https://i.ibb.co/NN6S3Nd/Yellow-Golf.jpg

Sorry Graeme, reproduction Day 2 pants from Amazon won't cut it. Just send me your waist size and I'll pick some up for you down here. You can get them tailored to your fit :grin:

Ryan1969Chevelle 08-10-2020 08:44 PM

The wife of the owner of a Dale COPO Camaro in barn finds at MCACN had an orange houndstooth skirt made to match the interior of their car.

Her name was Candi, his name has slipped my mind.... certain names seem to stick... :-)

Ryan W31

NorCam 08-10-2020 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan1969Chevelle (Post 1510137)
The wife of the owner of a Dale COPO Camaro in barn finds at MCACN had an orange houndstooth skirt made to match the interior of their car.

Her name was Candi, his name has slipped my mind.... certain names seem to stick... :-)

Ryan W31

Bahaha...yeah right.

NorCam 08-10-2020 10:44 PM

Ryan...I believe you remembered her name correctly. :biggthumpup:

http://st.hotrod.com/uploads/sites/2...dy-olinger.jpg

William 08-11-2020 09:28 PM

Chad Slocum aka carnut4life.

carnut4life 08-11-2020 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan1969Chevelle (Post 1510137)
The wife of the owner of a Dale COPO Camaro in barn finds at MCACN had an orange houndstooth skirt made to match the interior of their car.

Her name was Candi, his name has slipped my mind.... certain names seem to stick... :-)

Ryan W31

Yeah, that was me Ryan. For some reason everyone remembers Kandy's name and forgets mine..lol.. Spent a couple hours dying her skirt Thursday night before the show but it still wasn't orange enough for my taste.

Ryan1969Chevelle 08-12-2020 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carnut4life (Post 1510323)
Yeah, that was me Ryan. For some reason everyone remembers Kandy's name and forgets mine..lol.. Spent a couple hours dying her skirt Thursday night before the show but it still wasn't orange enough for my taste.

It was great meeting you guys at MCACN!!!!

Ryan W31

NorCam 08-12-2020 12:27 AM

MCACN will need to host a special display next year.

Gathering of the plaid.

All cars with houndstooth interiors must have an owner present with matching plaid trousers or a skirt. (lol)

carnut4life 08-12-2020 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan1969Chevelle (Post 1510325)
It was great meeting you guys at MCACN!!!!

Ryan W31

It was great meeting you too Ryan. We met so many nice folks at MCACN that year, probably the highlight of my car life!

carnut4life 08-12-2020 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorCam (Post 1510329)
MCACN will need to host a special display next year.

Gathering of the plaid.

All cars with houndstooth interiors must have an owner present with matching plaid trousers or a skirt. (lol)

That's a great idea Graeme, unfortunately we don't own the orange COPO anymore, its back up in Wisconsin now. Probably wouldn't have to twist Kandy's arm very hard to get her to wear a yellow hounds tooth skirt to the show this year though..lol..

NorCam 08-12-2020 12:02 PM

Well...here's to hoping this Covid virus is put to bed by next year as I doubt I'll be travelling to MCACN in 2020. Borders are still closed and at this point there is talk about both sides remaining closed until year end.

In other news, I also received the original dealer invoice for the car along with some other cool documents and pictures this week. Here are a couple scans of some photo's Robin took about 40 years ago. The front left fender extension has a crease in it and I'm guessing the front corner got tweaked and maybe bent the original Endura bumper because it was gone prior to Robin owning the car. The grill was also changed out to black for whatever reason? The chrome bumper still has a GM label showing on the inside

https://i.ibb.co/nnNJ0Zg/Robin-2-800.jpg
Photo courtesy of Robin Conklin - Owner 1980-1984

https://i.ibb.co/SsZtP8R/Robin-3-800.jpg
Photo courtesy of Robin Conklin - Owner 1980-1984

NorCam 08-12-2020 10:56 PM

Received a couple of important pieces needed for the restoration today. Big thanks to Eddie E. for the tilt column, and Jeff M. for the used yellow bumper. Both pieces will now be restored before being installed into the car when it's ready. Interior fabric shipped today also. Woohoo!

https://i.ibb.co/wS3358C/IMG-1766.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/7r1GmYn/IMG-1770.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/ZY5WzT5/IMG-1767.jpg

NorCam 08-14-2020 09:43 PM

Being that this car came to me in project form, one of the first things I did was to perform an audit of all the loose parts to see what was useable, what wouldn't be and what was missing. It didn't take long to notice the yellow wind lace moldings were missing in action and that I could use some better interior trim pieces to restore along with the seats. I reached out to Joe (X66 714) who's restored his Yellow on Yellow SS before and asked if he could share any insights...or if he might have some spare parts through his years of owning a yellow interior car. He graciously responded by sharing a wealth of knowledge on yellow interiors, and also told me that he had some spare parts he could share including yellow wind lace moldings, deluxe door pulls and door handle cups. Parts are now on the way and these pieces will be thoroughly cleaned and dyed to match the rest of the restored interior during the coming months.

Big thanks to Joe I. for the yellow trim parts and sharing his knowledge of 714 interiors. :biggthumpup:

https://i.ibb.co/qJcwRtR/Yellow-2.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/rcfH7jN/Yellow-4.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/v4BKs2q/Yellow-6.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/cc41HSr/Yellow-9.jpg

NorCam 08-20-2020 02:16 AM

Finally got the shop cleaned up today and chained up a couple of lifting joists from the attic. With the car suspended I got the new frame jig mounted under the car and elevated things to a nice working height. Still have a few things left to do and need to order some 1/2" hardware tomorrow so it's bolted up tight and ready to roll out to the body shop in early September. Just waiting on an AMK fastener kit and a few minor parts to arrive and it goes for a 90 day stint in the shop before it comes out looking completely different.

https://i.ibb.co/pRGvQhf/IMG-1863.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/vJ9j1X7/IMG-1864.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/bXR6mDt/IMG-1865.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/D4pQk59/IMG-1867.jpg

ZLP955 08-20-2020 09:18 AM

Good progress! Looks like you're planning to R&R a fair bit of the firewall/tunnel junction, was that whole area damaged from the clutch explosion?
If you get a chance to look during disassembly, could you confirm if the firewall oil line grommet pictured above has any identifying numbers on it? Thanks!

Dave Rifkin 08-20-2020 11:52 AM

Looks like someone changed out the rear spoiler at some point. In the photos you received from Robin, the car appears to have the narrow spoiler. Now it looks to have the full width version.

NorCam 08-20-2020 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Rifkin (Post 1511340)
Looks like someone changed out the rear spoiler at some point. In the photos you received from Robin, the car appears to have the narrow spoiler. Now it looks to have the full width version.

Good eye Dave. I believe the car had a narrow spoiler up until the mid 80's when Robin crashed into his buddies car after a street race. Apparently after the run, he pulled in behind his buddy who then nailed the brakes when a car pulled out in front of them. His buddy's car submarined and Robin swerved right to take his friends bumper down the left side of the Z/28. Apparently his buddies right mirror broke off as he side swiped his car in the process and the mirror was wedged between the deck lid and the spoiler. Needless to say it broke the spoiler was later replaced with one from another car. If only these cars could talk, because this one sure had some stories to be told.

NorCam 08-20-2020 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZLP955 (Post 1511334)
Good progress! Looks like you're planning to R&R a fair bit of the firewall/tunnel junction, was that whole area damaged from the clutch explosion?
If you get a chance to look during disassembly, could you confirm if the firewall oil line grommet pictured above has any identifying numbers on it? Thanks!

I'll check the grommet Tim. Yes, that section outlined in chalk is the area that was grafted in by former owner William Young back in 1988. The damage from the clutch explosion was not fixed until then and that entire section will now be repaired properly.

ZLP955 08-21-2020 07:52 AM

Thanks!

rlw68 08-21-2020 04:44 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Hey Graeme, with our VINs being so close it might be intersting to compare the stamp on the inside LH rear quarter...

Attachment 172005

Attachment 172003

NorCam 08-21-2020 05:33 PM

Rob, I need to hit it with some thinner and get the numbers more readable but it appears we have the same date as it's K08 L8573 (last looks like could be a 9)

https://i.ibb.co/m02qyfn/IMG-1871.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/zFgX414/IMG-1872.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/jgnhg5J/IMG-1879.jpg

Tim...the Oil line grommet has a 42 and some other character I cannot read clearly? CV perhaps?

ZLP955 08-22-2020 07:37 AM

Thanks, appreciate that detail! :biggthumpup:

ZLP955 08-22-2020 10:40 AM

Rob/Graeme, whereabouts inside the quarter panel is that stamping?

NorCam 08-22-2020 12:59 PM

Stamped vertically on the inside fender return behind the wheel opening on the drivers side. You can see it here in this picture. Might have to clean some crud away but original returns are stamped with the plant code and an assembly date. Rob taught me about this one as well and a couple others found on original floors.

https://i.ibb.co/ySJSJJG/Floors-2.jpg

rlw68 08-22-2020 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NorCam (Post 1511475)
Rob, I need to hit it with some thinner and get the numbers more readable but it appears we have the same date as it's K08 L8573 (last looks like could be a 9)

Thanks for checking this. The K08 is the date but I have no idea what the L8573 might be. Interesting though, it appears to be same number on both cars.

X66 714 08-22-2020 03:03 PM

Graeme. That panel is considered the trunk drop. I think I saw some of those numbers on mine....Joe

NorCam 08-22-2020 09:01 PM

I had a little text session with the original owner earlier today. I asked him the following questions and here is how he answered them;

Quote:

Paul, did you happen to keep the blue warranty booklet with the metal protect-o-plate that was attached to the inside of it?
Answer: Sorry Graeme. All that stuff was in the glove box when it was traded.

Quote:

I'm also wondering if you knew who the second owner was? I am curious if that 302 was ever saved when it was pulled out?
Answer: I can't recall the name but he worked for the maintenance dept. of Haltom City, Texas in 74 to 75 while I was working there as a Police Officer. That's when he told me that he blew up the motor and put in the 327. The next time we talked he told me he wrecked the car and it was totaled? The car was in pristine condition when I traded it in. I got a little pissed at him for being so irresponsible and I never talked to him again. When I traded it, the car had 456 Zoom Gears, a 4500lb Zoom Clutch, Hooker Headers, and Lakewood Lift Bars.

Paul went on to say...About 1972 my wife came home from work one day and the motor was missing. (Broken Valve Spring) I pulled the head to check the cylinder and it was OK, so I then decided to pull the motor and go through it. The motor was then totally blueprinted. My wife continued to drive it to work every day and we would bracket race the car on weekends. It was in top shape when we traded it in 74! :frown::crazy:

Quote:

Wow! Sounds like you really had some fun with it back then. Do you recall ET's with the car?
Answer: Stock 14:30's about 93 mph. After the rebuild with gears and headers 12:80 at about 118 to 120 mph. That was shifting into 4th gear just before the traps at 7000 rpm. I really needed 513 gears but that was a little much for the street. My wife had to get used to it, she thought it needed another gear! :naughty:

Quote:

I then sent Paul a picture of the balanced and blueprinted small block that's going into the car when the body is finished up and painted this off season. The response was quick!
Paul's reply: Beautiful. I want to drive it. Maybe I'll take a trip to Calgary when you get it done. Further conversation ensued and he was invited up to visit when it's finished. He said he'll be putting it on his bucket list! :3gears:

ZLP955 08-22-2020 10:25 PM

Great info from the previous owner!
Thanks for confirming stamp location, I see it now on the trunk drop-off, couldn't figure out where it'd be on the quarter from Rob's initial picture. Just checked my car, and I see something stamped in that location on both trunk drop-offs. Need to clean the area up before I can read them, but yet another interesting detail learned on these cars!

NorCam 08-25-2020 04:21 PM

Had a hard time getting 5 gallon buckets of Evapo-Rust up here in the Canada so I ordered some up through Fastenal. Now that they have arrived, I can start cleaning up all the bit and pieces that have any light corrosion or any minor rust. The first item to start with are the V75 liquid tire chain dispensers. They were tired looking originals that I knew I could clean up, and after a quick 12 hour dunk in an old tub of evapo-rust, they are already look 5x better.

I've cleaned them up and wiped them down now. Next I will soak them for 24 hours in a fresh pail of this miracle juice before adding a couple new AC Delco labels to the old lids. These are going to look great when they are done and have just the right patina now. Can't wait to have the entire system installed in the car. Here are some progress pics of the cannister clean up.

BEFORE CLEANING
https://i.ibb.co/G0gKGCM/IMG-0867.jpg

And After a quick soak in Evapo-Rust
https://i.ibb.co/pQ83WdV/IMG-2012.jpg

I love this stuff!
https://i.ibb.co/S3C3q4n/IMG-2013.jpg

More when the cannisters come out of a 24 hour soak in the new batch. Should be good to go after a rinse down with a wipe.

NorCam 08-27-2020 05:31 PM

Still hunting down more parts while keeping an eye out for more interesting Day 2 stuff...but can't afford take my foot off the gas here in the interim. Today's project is cleaning up some more seat belts that arrived to complete the deluxe set, and finishing up on the LTC dispensers. This one is almost done while the other is out getting a couple of Tig welds on the lower tabs. Next up I'll print two new labels for the dispensers and they are good to go.

https://i.ibb.co/QbKNcSZ/IMG-2045.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/x2Hp11T/IMG-2044.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/kJSzBq0/IMG-2043.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/8rSSNN1/IMG-2051.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/X8C5Fdv/IMG-2050.jpg

SuperNovaSS 08-27-2020 06:39 PM

Looking great!

Jason

NorCam 08-28-2020 05:41 PM

The first of two V75 LTC Dispensers is done. Now to figure out a way to load these aerosol cans up with bleach. :beers:

https://i.ibb.co/8bHzH4G/IMG-2074.jpg


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