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I found this, perhaps a ray of hope?
https://www.globalhealthnow.org/2020...rals-are-ready |
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Good info! The following info is a bit sketchy because it is still early - but countries that have experienced Malaria outbreaks in the past are currently pretty much negative for the COVID-19 If this holds then this builds a strong case for population immunity based upon the previous use of Chloroquine phosphate and Hydroxychloroquine. Both Malaria drugs with long approvals and known side effects. That is why POTUS is now mentioning this drug openly now and Bayer just shipped a large quantity of it to the US a couple of days ago, and so far there is now considerable evidence from several countries (China, S. Korea, France,) that anti-malarial drugs, especially chloroquine, is effective at greatly reducing COVID-19 symptoms, and possibly preventing infection in the first place. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The other drug AbbVie’s HIV combo Kaletra (Aluvia) just failed in its 199 patient trial in China. So that one is done. |
interesting reading about "community immunity" or "herd immunity"
https://magazine.medlineplus.gov/art...unity-immunity |
Political views are not part of this site....
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Apologies for mentioning a political view. I'll re-post/edit my post as it had relevant info.
In 2020, most deaths due to COVID-19 are over the age of 65 and has affected people with compromised immune systems or other underlying issues like heart disease. In 2009 we had 60 million Americans that contracted H1N1, over 12,000 deaths, and 80% of those were people younger than 65 years of age. COVID-19 cases will go up dramatically in the next few weeks because we're TESTING now, but the actual deaths will not skyrocket or go up in proportional numbers to new cases. Tens of millions may already have COVID-19, perhaps as early as 2 months ago, but your immune system fought it off, and you were totally unaware you ever had it. As of March 21st, 2020, over 11,000 Americans have died of the flu or pneumonia, NOT the coronavirus. Every year we have 55,000+ deaths due to flu/pneumonia. Every year we have over 40,000+ deaths due to opiods. Go out to your garage, clay bar your car, give it a coat of wax. Do a project that you always wanted to do like fix a stone chip, install that new interior carpet that's been in your basement for months, read up on how carburetors work so you can tune your Holley or Q-Jet, grab a few of your old books or magazines on muscle cars that you shelved long ago (you'll be surprised how much information is in them), maybe detail that engine compartment, rotate your tires (rarely done on classic cars anymore), detail that engine bay and take care of that paint flaking on your engine. Perhaps there's a few projects around the house you've been putting off, maybe painting a room, that you didn't have time for before because of excessive work loads before this virus outbreak. If your kids are at home, have them disconnect from social media for a few hours and watch a movie, maybe binge watch a series. Watch some comedies. Maybe look up some YouTube videos of your favorite rock bands. Re-read some of those old novels on your bookshelves that have been gathering dust. America has been through MUCH worse than this virus. Calm down, step back. Vaccines and other medications are not far off. |
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In addition the Public/Private partnership with Google has yielded the website: https://www.google.com/covid19/ |
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I'm a firefighter, my wife's a nurse. Sort of on the front lines of this. Monitoring and just following suggested practice. That being said, taking measures to boost the imune system,,ramping up the cardio a bit. Doing what we do around the homestead. Some good info coming down the pike out of this thread, a car site of all things! Both sides. If some anxiety gets vented, not the worse of things. |
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Israeli drug company donating 6M doses of malaria drug to US to combat coronavirus Israel’s leading drug producer announced Thursday it will donate 6 million doses of anti-malaria drugs to the United States in hopes that it could be helpful treating coronavirus symptoms. Teva Pharmaceutical Industries says the drug could potentially treat people with the coronavirus and will ship the hydroxychloroquine tablets through wholesalers nationwide by the end of the month and will provide 10 million doses in total. “We are committed to helping to supply as many tablets as possible as demand for this treatment accelerates at no cost,” Teva Executive Vice President Brendan O’Grady said about the move. |
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French Study shows promise. Researchers are turning to existing medication for potential use in a new coronavirus treatment. A study published by French biomedical lab IHU-Méditerranée Infection on Wednesday discovered a potential COVID-19 treatment contender: a combination of hydroxychloroquine, which has been used to treat malaria, and azithromycin. The two drugs combined would prevent the virus from entering other human cells and therefore stop the virus from spreading. https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyl...irus-treatment |
The issue with hydroxychloroquine is the dosage. Give a patient 1 gram - he's fine. Give him 2 grams - he dies.
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What are your reservations with the usage of this drug in an approved off label context? Is there something new about the dosage that gives you reason to be concerned? Lots of medical experience with it and nearly all of it in a third world medical environment or military treatment context. Explain Please. |
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But if a mistake is made with hydroxychloroquine - you get double dosed - you die. Simple as that. And please don't tell me that hospital staff/doctors don't make mistakes. We can head that one off at the pass right now! |
Trump steps up effort to tout malaria drug as coronavirus 'game changer' despite doubts from FDA
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If you have never seen one, this is a ventilator. If the manufacturers name rings a bell, they also manufacturer rebreathers - the underwater air supply that leaves no bubbles - used by all Special Forces military |
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Ok I understand what you are saying. By the looks of it the amount of medicine needed will be quite small in conjunction with a ZPack. How it will be administered remains to be seen. Its effectiveness also needs to be proven. As an aside this medicine was evaluated on primate in 2004 with respect to COVID/SARS and was found to be effective, however human trials were not needed as SARS resolved through containment. Here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869/ |
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Of note is that the current containment methods employed here in Ohio is working.
Ohio only gained +1 today moving from 247 to 248. Real Data can be found below without the hyped up "Bomb Impact" visuals. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ |
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Hey - you may be 100% correct. Then again you maybe 100% wrong. So much is not known about CV19 that comparisons to previous virus's is pretty much worthless when it comes to medicinal treatment. |
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The FLU has killed over 22,000 people already this season Think about that since the lethality of COVID-19 is becoming more clear as the days roll on. |
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So where do you fall on this matter? Are you a "Doomer" or are you just cheerleeding for the virus? I am asking because certain elements of the political fringes give the appearance of hoping the virus destroys the economy for an election advantage, and it is not at all lost on my observations that the media sources you keep posting as evidence are known to be aligned on one side of this fringe... Care to comment? |
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We will see and it will not be long either.:beers: |
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I wish we had a "wartime" president (like FDR) instead of a real estate salesman. I wish Andrew Cuomo was president. I wish people would take S-I-P seriously as opposed to a two week vacation. I use MS Edge as my browser so it's home page is where I get access to news and such: https://i.postimg.cc/pLXGTwfT/screenshot-7752.png I try not to post Opinion or Analysis pieces. They are not news. I do not have an agenda when it comes to politics. Frankly the subject boors me. Never in my life have I been interested in politics. I think in the last 30 years I have gone to the polls maybe 3X to vote for anyone. One definitely sticks out. Lynbrook High School wanted more money - a lot of money. It was put to the voters to say yah or nay. Voters said nay. LHS didn't like that so somehow they were able to hold another vote. Voters once again said nay. So LHS used some buried in fine print law that allowed them to sidestep the voters and got their money. And I got a $3000 per year increase in my property taxes. |
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Excellent. Good Man! |
What's in Lees pockets leaving the house:
Wallet - check Keys - check Cellphone - check Pocket knife - check Magnifying reading glasses with case - check Lipstick sized flashlight - check Clean snot rag - check 2 Pair of rubber gloves - check Surgical mask - check Half a dozen disposable alcohol wipes - check Cigarettes - check Cigarette lighter - check Leaving the car - backpack with 10 reusable plastic bags for bagging groceries* OK Alex - all set, let's go! *NM has a ban on plastic bags but somehow the ones Walmart sells (really heavy duty) slipped through the ban. Bought 20 of them for $2.00. Keep 10 in the car and another 10 in the closet to replace any that rip or tear. |
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Connecticut and New Jersey have joined with NY, IL and CA for all residents to Shelter-In Place.
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OK, who wants to be the first to volunteer their business/job.
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Coronavirus cases in New York State now top 10,000
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