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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bigsixman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Stunning car! I have a question about the 2 red handles attached to your PPP shifter, I assume one is for your chute, how about the other?
Where did you purchase the handles from? Thank you. </div></div> Big Six Man, Thanks, the pictures do not really do the car justice, it is really a pretty piece. You would be correct, the one handle was for the parachute release and the other was for a remote battery (rear mounted) On-OFF switch. LOKAR makes it, kind of pricey, but you get the cable and all the brackets to make it work. I don't know how many times I have been at the track and seen guys running to the back of their car to turn the power on after they have been all belted in and ready to go. I also had a problem a couple times when running a dragster where I would come out of the water and the tires would go into tire shake and shut the battery switch off from the severe vibration. I also have one in the 70 Camaro and I use it all the time, it is just really convenient. GM |
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Theres nothing like a stocker, especially a 375 HP 402 Camaro! Very nice.
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Both amazing rides.. I honestly favor the 70 over the 69.. Any thoughts or plans with it and going up to SS or venturing out into maybe a 10.5 tire class? My dream was to have my old 69 as a 10.5 car with a model LS, 1XXmm turbo, glide on a brake. Also was looking into keeping it leaf with Cal-tracs split monos and sliders. I think the suspension would hold it with the new MT drag radials.. But unfortunately Ill probably never find out.. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img]
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I am building a Caltracs car now. The sliders are very interesting but not stock legal. And those guys claim they ate inconsistent. My old Super stocker is cut with a new S&W clip in it so I'm going to leave it alone, but would have rather put stock floors back in. My decision ended up being based on the fact the quarters are original and the first lip was cut off in the 70's for tire clearance. The Baldwin car looks like Wes McCracken last car. But I know it stayed here in PA. I saw the engine for sale on Classracer.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cook_dw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Both amazing rides.. I honestly favor the 70 over the 69.. Any thoughts or plans with it and going up to SS or venturing out into maybe a 10.5 tire class? My dream was to have my old 69 as a 10.5 car with a model LS, 1XXmm turbo, glide on a brake. Also was looking into keeping it leaf with Cal-tracs split monos and sliders. I think the suspension would hold it with the new MT drag radials.. But unfortunately Ill probably never find out.. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img] </div></div>
Thanks, As nice as the 69 is, the 70 is kind of special, at least in my opinion, cause there are not too many out there. I had thought about moving it up to Super Stock, but to be honest, it would take a whole pile of money, not only for all the car updates, but also the engine. Unfortunately, I have a filet steak appetite, with a hot dog style budget. I have just built a new aluminum headed 402 and the car can be light enough to run A/SA, so I guess, I could always move it to SS/EA or SS/FA just the way it sits, I just would not be competitive as far as running another in-class car, like a real Super Stocker since it would be a heads-up race. It would appear that you have a really nice selection of cars to choose from and I have been amazed at how well the Cal-Tracs preform. I did get a chance to run the 70 with the new engine locally and it managed a 1.28 sixty on its second full pass and I would guess that there is more potential after a bunch more runs. Good Luck on your project, if you decide to do it. GM |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ds1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am building a Caltracs car now. The sliders are very interesting but not stock legal. And those guys claim they ate inconsistent. My old Super stocker is cut with a new S&W clip in it so I'm going to leave it alone, but would have rather put stock floors back in. My decision ended up being based on the fact the quarters are original and the first lip was cut off in the 70's for tire clearance. The Baldwin car looks like Wes McCracken last car. But I know it stayed here in PA. I saw the engine for sale on Classracer. </div></div>
Good Luck on your build with the CalTracs, it is a really nice system to work with. That is what I have on the 70 now with the split monos and they work great. You will not be disappointed with that choice. Actually, this is Wes McCracken's car that I bought off of him in 2012. I raced the car that year and then took it apart and re-did it over the next couple of years. I got an offer for some chassis work for an older Corvette I had that I took in on trade for my last dragster, so I took the 70 all apart and had a full cage put in and then re-wired it and re-plumbed it. The only thing I did not touch was the engine (until this year) and the car ended up running a 10.37 in 2015, which I thought was really good. I will post a picture of the car when I bought it from Wes. I will also post some pictures of it as it looks now, underhood, interior, and trunk area. Thanks, GM https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...448_811663.jpg |
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That thing is straight boogyin' out of the hole at 1.28. Imagine if itll get low 20's or even teens.. Was that off the foot brake?
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Gary, what length cables do you use for the chute and battery shut off? I checked with Lokar and they show a 8' cable for the shut off. The 8' seems like it may be a little short. The chute cable would need to be longer.
I am doing essentially the same thing with my 67 Camaro and it will may save me some headaches if you know the lengths. I just ordered my PPP shifter today and I am at that point with my build. Thank you. |
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I grew up watching Wes run the Chevy II. I had 2 66 back half cars because of Wes. One a 505 bbc, and one a 355 sbc. I knew that car was for sale. Sweitzer's Firebird is for sale also. We used to run an IHRA pro am race. Wes set a national record, I think 10.72. That would have been 2003 or 2004. I worked at Beaver Springs fir 16 years. Last year I bought Joe Scott's first Super Stocker. Going to restore it close to how he had it. I made several trips to see him and get the title. Also know Billy Nees. He and I can talk Camaros all day.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cook_dw</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That thing is straight boogyin' out of the hole at 1.28. Imagine if itll get low 20's or even teens.. Was that off the foot brake? </div></div>
All NHRA Stockers have to use the foot brake, there are no trans brakes allowed in Stock. The one thing they do allow is a two step off of the brake pedal, but that is it. One of the other things I changed with this car was the rear brakes. When I bought it, it had regular drum brakes on the back and I realized very quickly that the car was hard to hold on the starting line, with conventional drum brakes, so I put dual caliper disc brakes on both sides of the axle housing and now I can hold it on the starting line with minimal brake pressure. This next year should be interesting as to how fast the car will go, time will tell. GM |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bigsixman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gary, what length cables do you use for the chute and battery shut off? I checked with Lokar and they show a 8' cable for the shut off. The 8' seems like it may be a little short. The chute cable would need to be longer.
I am doing essentially the same thing with my 67 Camaro and it will may save me some headaches if you know the lengths. I just ordered my PPP shifter today and I am at that point with my build. Thank you. </div></div> Big Six Man, I just measured the cable in the 1970 Camaro and it is the 8 foot cable and it works fine at that length. Obviously, depending on where you put the shifter, the ON-OFF switch in the trunk will dictate how the cable works. When we built this car, we had all of these parts, so the battery and shifter were located based on those locations. I really don't remember how long a cable I used on the 69 for the parachute, but all those mountings will have to be determined before ordering the cable length. Good Luck with your 67. GM Pictures attached are trunk area where bracketry attaches to battery hold down area, Lokar lever on shifter, & where cable goes through back seat area to trunk. Hope this helps. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...4-p1010094.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...5-p1010096.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...6-p1010105.jpg |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ds1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I grew up watching Wes run the Chevy II. I had 2 66 back half cars because of Wes. One a 505 bbc, and one a 355 sbc. I knew that car was for sale. Sweitzer's Firebird is for sale also. We used to run an IHRA pro am race. Wes set a national record, I think 10.72. That would have been 2003 or 2004. I worked at Beaver Springs fir 16 years. Last year I bought Joe Scott's first Super Stocker. Going to restore it close to how he had it. I made several trips to see him and get the title. Also know Billy Nees. He and I can talk Camaros all day. </div></div>
Wes had a ton of success with this car and it definitely knows how to find its way to the Winner's Circle (not for me yet, but it is coming soon I hope LOL). Joe Scott is definitely a legend in NHRA Super Stock racing, no doubt about it and Billy Nees has the reputation for building winning cars in Stock also, so you are definitely around the right people. Good Luck with the 1967, I'm sure it will be a nice piece when completed. GM |
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Thanks Gary for your help. Your 69 and 70 Camaros are two well done and planned out cars. I am extremely impressed with your 69 car in particular as everything is right on the money, stance, color, Yenko scheme, interior and under hood are well done.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bigsixman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks Gary for your help. Your 69 and 70 Camaros are two well done and planned out cars. I am extremely impressed with your 69 car in particular as everything is right on the money, stance, color, Yenko scheme, interior and under hood are well done. </div></div>
Big Six Man, Thanks for the compliments, the 69 was a fun car to build, because the vision became a reality. Kind of Sucked to sell it, but family does come first. I really enjoy the 70, it is not the "SHOW" car that the 69 is, as the burgandy paint is very old and has some problems, but that is a good thing, cause if it gets a nick or a scratch it will not bother me like the first scratch in the 69. I will post some more pictures of the 70 underhood and interior, since I think it turned out almost as good as the 69. Thanks again, GM https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...0-p1010097.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...1-p1010098.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...2-p1010102.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...3-p1010100.jpg https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...4-p1010101.jpg |
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Your 70 Camaro is very nice and well detailed car. Is that a Borgeson steering box? Who sells the lower LH alternator mount. There is a lot of nice detail in your engine compartment.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bigsixman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Your 70 Camaro is very nice and well detailed car. Is that a Borgeson steering box? Who sells the lower LH alternator mount. There is a lot of nice detail in your engine compartment. </div></div>
Big Six Man, Thanks, a lot of work, but I am very happy with the results. Flaming River sells the steering box, it is a kit, with a different arm and a sliding shaft with U-joints for alignment to the column. The alternator deal is from East Coast Auto Electric, they have kits for all kinds of applications. Good Luck, GM |
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Is it possible you could post up the incrementals on that 1.28 60 foot pass, we run a similiar car, I'd really like to see them, thanks.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Vortecpro</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Is it possible you could post up the incrementals on that 1.28 60 foot pass, we run a similiar car, I'd really like to see them, thanks. </div></div>
I sent you a PM, don't want to bore the guys on this sight with numbers. Thanks, GM |
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Thanks! Nice use of power. How did you get that intake under the hood? We run a 1970, here a video, ck out the rear suspension, we had a horrible time getting the car to hook before this suspension was fabbed.
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Nice videos, I enjoyed watching them both. I see that you have a Ken Keir single wheelie bar too, it is definitely a slick piece.
The intake is a stock Chevy piece, it is an NHRA approved replacement casting number 19131359, so dimensionally, it is pretty close to the original. GM |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GM_427_Racer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice videos, I enjoyed watching them both. I see that you have a Ken Keir single wheelie bar too, it is definitely a slick piece.
The intake is a stock Chevy piece, it is an NHRA approved replacement casting number 19131359, so dimensionally, it is pretty close to the original. GM </div></div> Just curious... what cylinder heads does NHRA allow for this combo? Those AL heads don't look factory. |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: novadude</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GM_427_Racer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice videos, I enjoyed watching them both. I see that you have a Ken Keir single wheelie bar too, it is definitely a slick piece.
The intake is a stock Chevy piece, it is an NHRA approved replacement casting number 19131359, so dimensionally, it is pretty close to the original. GM </div></div> Just curious... what cylinder heads does NHRA allow for this combo? Those AL heads don't look factory. </div></div> Nova Dude, You would be correct, the heads are not Chevrolet factory parts, however, if you look at the last picture of the driver's side engine, their is an "NHRA" logo milled into the head by Edelbrock who is the manufacturer of these heads. NHRA does a pretty good job of supplying the racer the approved specifications to run just about any combination that has been built for a bunch of years. If you go to www.nhraracer.com and look on the left side, you will find a section that says "Engine Blueprint Specifications", click on that, and then scroll to the manufacturer that you want and click on the year and you will see all the pertinent specifications of the particular engine you are interested. The accepted cylinder head replacements are also listed for the particular combination based on the last three digits of the casting number under the notes section, not to mention all the other information. There is also a section on that same web page, "NHRA Accepted Products" and that section has a ton of information as to what after market products NHRA accepts in place of the original parts that are becoming extinct. All of these reference pages along with an NHRA rule book gives the racer what he/she has to know in order to race a legal car. They also provide a service (phone numbers) where you can call either one of the division Tech Directors or the national Tech line located in Indianapolis to answer any questions the racers may have. There is also another section called "Stock Car Classification" a little further down the page and that section will basically tell you what class the particular car and engine combination that you choose will be. However, you need a rule book to see what the weight breaks are for each class since they are based on NHRA factored horsepower and their shipping weights to determine which class. It is kind of complicated, but the rule book does spell it out as to how to make the necessary calculations to come to the correct weight and class. I hope this answers your question, if you have any others, feel free to ask and I will do my best to help. Gary Merrick |
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I would imagine that "stock" is moving far away from stock parts as more and more items become NHRA approved. From what I can tell, the port shape on those Edelbrock castings and GMPP intake look nothing like the OEM L78 parts. Can someone be competitive with the "NHRA approved" stuff using real GM castings from 50 years ago?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: novadude</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would imagine that "stock" is moving far away from stock parts as more and more items become NHRA approved. From what I can tell, the port shape on those Edelbrock castings and GMPP intake look nothing like the OEM L78 parts. Can someone be competitive with the "NHRA approved" stuff using real GM castings from 50 years ago? </div></div>
novadude, Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however, unless you have x-ray vision or you have a set of Edelbrock heads and Chevrolet intake manifold as described above in front of you for comparison, I don't know how you can make the statement "the port shape on those Edelbrock castings and GMPP intake look nothing like the OEM L78 parts". NHRA makes the rules and if they say that these parts are legal for replacement, then it is up to the individual racer to decide what parts they want to run. Obviously, I did not mention it, but all of the above replacement parts are interchangeable with an original Mark IV block. NHRA mandates the cc's requirements on intake ports, exhaust ports and combustion chambers to maintain the integrity of the stock dimensions, also included are valve dimensions including diameters, stem size and weight of the valve. All of those cc measurements were obtained in the mid to late 1980's off of stock big block L78 parts. The one big difference between the replacement heads and the old iron is the combustion chamber cc's have been changed since both the aluminum 401 Chevrolet Head and the Edelbrock replacement head (Edelbrock did the castings for the aluminum Chevrolet 401 head) are both the open chamber design, rather than the closed chamber design as were the originals back in the 60's and 1970, so that the compression ratio is correct for the year claimed. If the intake runners or exhaust ports are bigger than the NHRA specification and/or the combustion chamber is smaller than the specification and the tech department does a random check or if you get torn down for setting a National Record, and these dimensions are not correct, NHRA will tell you that you cannot race at their events for one year from the time of the infraction. After the year suspension they will also require you to bring the heads to them, they will cc them and then you can re-assemble them to the engine before you can compete at that event. Stock is the most regulated class in NHRA racing and I will agree that a lot of the requirements have been relaxed over the years due to the unavailability of stock parts, but dimensionally, the requirements regarding various weights and dimensions are still in the rule book and are enforced. Are there racers that stretch the rules, of course there are, but in my humble opinion, they are just kidding themselves if they decide to go outside of the spirit of the rules. To answer your other question, I think the original heads can be very competitive, in fact between the original iron head and the aluminum head, NHRA imposes an increase of 5 horsepower, so you have to weigh more depending on which class you are running if you choose to run the "new" replacement aluminum heads. My original engine had cast iron heads (291 castings) that could have been updated, but I chose to go to the aluminum heads (even though there is the horsepower penalty), but I did it anyway since I am getting old and the iron heads are approximately 40 lbs per head heavier than the aluminum and with two broken wrists, it is getting harder for me to pick them up. Above statements are my opinion, and as I said you are entitled to your opinion. Gary Merrick |
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Lots to read and learn from these posts. I see you are friends with Sweitzer....I see him a lot at the sale. I'm sure we have crossed paths and probably share a lot of racing buddies; MacNeish, Totaro, and on and on. My hat is off to you to be able to race competitively with such an elite group. NHRA Stockers are extremely intricate and few outside of the racing fraternity understand what it's all about. I chose the nostalgia route as my real racing days are behind me. It's not that we don't want to win, it's just that we don't really care when we don't. Eventually, my Camaro will be like the Bryan Adams song lyrics "back in the summer of '69" and hope to have power trains for the three classes the car competed in. You're rubbing elbows with some of the sport's finest and your cars reflect it in both presentation and time slip numbers. I'll be sure to stop and say "Hi" at one of next year's events. Merry Christmas, my friend.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DW31S</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lots to read and learn from these posts. I see you are friends with Sweitzer....I see him a lot at the sale. I'm sure we have crossed paths and probably share a lot of racing buddies; MacNeish, Totaro, and on and on. My hat is off to you to be able to race competitively with such an elite group. NHRA Stockers are extremely intricate and few outside of the racing fraternity understand what it's all about. I chose the nostalgia route as my real racing days are behind me. It's not that we don't want to win, it's just that we don't really care when we don't. Eventually, my Camaro will be like the Bryan Adams song lyrics "back in the summer of '69" and hope to have power trains for the three classes the car competed in. You're rubbing elbows with some of the sport's finest and your cars reflect it in both presentation and time slip numbers. I'll be sure to stop and say "Hi" at one of next year's events. Merry Christmas, my friend.
Dave Siltman </div></div> Hi Dave, Thanks for the nice comments. I only know Steve Sweitzer from his racing reputation, which he is an excellent racer, although I have not seen his car in recent years. The reason his name was on the door of the 70 Camaro is because the previous owner and Steve are good friends, in fact I was told Wes McCracken (the former owner) works for Steve a few days a week currently. MacNeish and Totaro are also very good racers by their reputations, both are either current NHRA Record Holders and/or maybe previous record holders, but I have never had the pleasure of meeting either one. I have not been traveling a lot to the east coast for quite a few years, although, I do plan to make a few more trips over that way next year, time will tell. If you are at a race and I am there, please stop by and we can shoot the breeze. Good Luck on your nostalgia project, racing with three different powertrains sounds like it will be a lot of work, no doubt you will be quite busy and I hope you see many WIN lights. Merry Christmas to you and yours and also, I wish you a Happy New Year!!! Gary Merrick |
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Gary...I for one, enjoy the heck out of your posts. Please continue! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]
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Sweitzer's car was for sale on Racingjunk. 39k. I told Joe on one of my trips to see him. Also Rick Wolfe Cuda has been for sale a few times in the last two years. Wes had a service station near Lock Haven. I grew up watching all those guys run and test at my home track. Wes used to run IHRA Hot Rod with Norm Szymachi. Norm only runs about 3 to 4 times a year anymore. Joe sold his last car and is done also.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gary...I for one, enjoy the heck out of your posts. Please continue! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] </div></div>
Thanks Bruce, If someone has a question about my Yenko or NHRA drag racing, I will be more than happy to respond. Gary Merrick |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ds1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sweitzer's car was for sale on Racingjunk. 39k. I told Joe on one of my trips to see him. Also Rick Wolfe Cuda has been for sale a few times in the last two years. Wes had a service station near Lock Haven. I grew up watching all those guys run and test at my home track. Wes used to run IHRA Hot Rod with Norm Szymachi. Norm only runs about 3 to 4 times a year anymore. Joe sold his last car and is done also. </div></div>
ds1, I do remember seeing his car on racing junk for sale a while ago. I guess a lot of guys are dialing it back for various reasons, my plan is to keep going until it is not fun anymore. When that happens, I will hang it up too. Hopefully, I will go for quite a few years, can't golf, don't like to fish, so old muscle cars and drag racing are the only way to go for me. Gary Merrick |
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The racing has been my hobby within the car hobby, coming from a car family. We build the cars to use, not museum or trailer queens. We have thirty between 4 of us. GTOs, Camaros, and street rods. I have an S10 I am building as a bracket car. I work in a 223 year old steel mill and get very little time off in maintenance and it is very cold this time of year. After the truck I plan to finish my 64 GTO then get Joes 67 Camaro in. I enjoy building and having to think about the changes I want to make. I have 2 to 3 local cars I work on beside mine.
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To All,
Hoping everyone has a Very, Very Merry Christmas and Santa brings everything you want and your dreams come true. For those of you that do not believe in Christmas, then I wish you a Happy Holiday Season. Gary Merrick |
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Gary, do you have any photos of your lower alternator mount on your blue 69? I have motor plates and I am looking for a good way to mount
the alternator low on the drivers side with a plate. I received my crank and water pump pulleys today and I am trying to get some ideas for the alternator. Thanks. |
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bigsixman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gary, do you have any photos of your lower alternator mount on your blue 69? I have motor plates and I am looking for a good way to mount
the alternator low on the drivers side with a plate. I received my crank and water pump pulleys today and I am trying to get some ideas for the alternator. Thanks. </div></div> bigsixman, Sorry for the delay, I was out of town. To answer your question. I did not have an alternator system on the blue 69. In Super Stock, an alternator is not required by NHRA, so I was planning on running two batteries. However, if you go to East Coast Auto Electric website, there is a kit #2414 for big block cars with a motor plate and that kit is pretty much what I used on the 70 Stocker (NHRA does require a working alternator in Stock Eliminator), with some slight modifications. If you have questions, you should give East Coast a call at (570)457-0553 and ask for John. I talked to him at the PRI show a couple of weeks ago and he is very knowledgeable and I am sure he can help with any questions you might have. GM |
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Thanks Gary ECAE #2414 appears to be something that will work for me. I appreciate your help.
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Hi All,
Hope everyone had a good holiday season and all of you are starting the New Year with anticipation of good things to come. Since Charlie started this thread a couple months ago and I was told there are some "Super Sleuths" on this site, I was wondering if there had been any success or possible leads as to finding my old car VIN 124379N663539? GM |
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Thank you for sharing these incredible stories of your Yenko days and current racing pursuits. I was too young to have experienced the musclecar era first hand, but am near obsessed with musclecars now.
If you're ever so inclined, could you tell us any stories of street racing the Yenko back in the day? Was the car a hit at the local cruise spots in 1969? Did people know what a Yenko was at that time? Thank you again. |
Re: Where is 69 Yenko Camaro 124379N663539
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SeattleCarGuy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thank you for sharing these incredible stories of your Yenko days and current racing pursuits. I was too young to have experienced the musclecar era first hand, but am near obsessed with musclecars now.
If you're ever so inclined, could you tell us any stories of street racing the Yenko back in the day? Was the car a hit at the local cruise spots in 1969? Did people know what a Yenko was at that time? Thank you again. </div></div> Seattle Car Guy, Thanks for the question about back in the day. Before I take you to 1969 and the Yenko, I want to tell you about the summer of 1967 and another one of my stories and how my DAD was involved. I graduated from high school in 1967 at the age of 17, would not turn 18 until November, and I was going to go to the local college to start on an Engineering degree. At that time, I think I mentioned previously that my Dad was a FORD guy, so my Mom's daily driver was a 1964 Ford Galaxie 500 two door fastback with a 352 cid, 250 HP, 4 barrel, dual exhaust with a "Cruisomatic 3 speed transmission" and my older brother had shown me quite often how good it ran and I must say it was pretty quick for a 352. My brother left for college at Miami of Ohio after he graduated in 1964, so he did not have enough time to screw up the 64, I say this cause every car my Dad let him drive, he broke it in one way or another. I will get back to the 64 and my brother in a little while cause it is very relevant to this story. In the summer of 1967, Dad decided he needed to find me a cheap car to drive to college and also my part time gas station job. I really don't remember how he found this car but one day after he got off work, he said after dinner we were going to look at a 1961 Ford. Me being 17, I really didn't care what it was, so long as I had my own car. The two of us left after dinner and my anticipation was "off the chart". In my imagination, I have a Ford Starliner two door fast back with a 406 and a 4 speed on my mind as to be the car that would be my dream car for a 1961 Ford. When we pulled in the driveway where the folks were selling the car, I could not believe what I was seeing. Before we even pulled up to the car and parked Dad looked over at me and said with a grin "What do you think?" I was pretty much speechless because what I was looking at was a 1961 Ford Country Squire 9 passenger station wagon with all the wood grain, painted robins egg blue and chrome skirts. I looked over at Pop and said, "WOW, not what I was expecting!", but I thought, Hey, it has four wheels and I knew that Mom and Dad did not have a lot of money and if this what he wanted to buy me, I was good with it, but I told him the chrome skirts have got to go, period..... After the shock of a 9 passenger station wagon and the chrome skirts (which gotta go), the first thing and I mean the very first thing I see is that this car has dual factory exhausts and in my mind I know that this means only one of two things, either a 390 or a 406 is under the hood and I am thinking this might not be so bad. I head right for the front of the car, pop the hood, and sure enough it looks like a 390 to me with a 4 barrel carb. I have to be honest, I was not the sharpest knife in the drawer back then (well, maybe not now either), but this car could be fun, even if it is a 9 passenger wagon. Dad has been talking to the owner and the next thing on the list is the test drive. Dad drives it first and I am in the passenger seat and this thing is not very impressive. It needs tires, brakes, and definitely a tune up, which I don't think it has seen spark plugs since it came off the assembly line. Since it needs all these things and points them out to the owner, he negotiates a price of $675.00, so he buys it, knowing that I can fix all of the stuff on the cheap since I work at the gas station. Well, I guess you guys and gals have figured out by now, yup, Pop bought the wagon and for an extra surprise for me he took it to Earl Scheib and got their deluxe paint job (I think he paid $79.95 to get the whole car painted) and if you haven't guessed by now, it was robins egg blue again. Dad was big on the do it yourself type stuff, so he bought wood grain contact paper and redid the wood grain on the sides of the Country Squire, cause the original was pretty well faded and we could not have that, but the chrome skirts did disappear. All the maintenance stuff that I mentioned earlier was fixed in the first couple of weeks that I was driving the car and it ran better, but it was still a "TURD", it had a hard time getting out of its own way. A friend of mine had a 61 Ford two door with a straight six and a manual 3 speed transmission and it would literally walk away from the "BARGE" (I forgot to mention my Dad gave it the nickname "The Barge"), so I was resigned to the fact that even though this car had a 390, it was really, really sloooooow. Time to back up a little bit and talk about my brother who was 3 years older than me and his driving experiences with the 64 Galaxie. Before I got my driver's license which was in 1965, my brother would take me places occasionally, and when we got to take Mom's car it was a treat. He showed me on more than one occasion, if you pulled the shifter to the Low-Low position, wind the engine up to about 50 MPH, (no tach, no idea what RPM, but the engine seemed HAPPY), move the shifter up to drive and then pull it back down to L2, it would shift just like a shift kit was in the Cruisomatic and that 352 would burn rubber in second gear, wind it up to to about 75-80 MPH and then move the shifter to D (3rd gear), it would shift and you would get a chirp out of the rear tires. Obviously, I like to set things up a little and tell you about the day the "BARGE" came to life. I had probably been driving the wagon about a month and one day I was on my way to work to the gas station and I got behind a couple of slow cars that were going 20 in a 35 zone. I was running late and getting more ticked off, cause it was taking forever. Once I saw my opening with no on-coming traffic, I ripped the shifter to low gear (all the way down, I had NEVER done this before), floored it and the "BARGE" showed its stuff when I put the gas pedal to the floor, the front end jumped up in the air (I mean it "REALLY JUMPED UP IN THE AIR"), something I had never felt before and we (the wagon and me) were HAULING ASS around the car in front of me, I pushed the shifter up and brought it right back down (just like the 64), it shifted into second gear and smoked the tires (it had a posi). I had to slow down, so I didn't get a chance to wind it up and shift to high, but I am thinking "What the HELL just happened???" Holy Crap, I have been driving this car all summer and had never experienced anything like this EVER..... The next red light I came to, I put the shifter back into drive and the "BARGE" turned into the TURD it had always been and went back to being the Country Squire. Once I got moving, no traffic in front of me, I pulled the shifter back to Low-Low, floored the accelerator and the front end jumped back up in the air again and the ole 390 was breathing heavy... The bad part of this story was that I had to go to work and had to wait 8 hours to experience how fast this thing was, but it was great anticipation and I wasn't disappointed on the way home. While at work, I figured out what was going on, the shift linkage was out of adjustment, so when the car was in Drive, it was not starting out in low gear, it was starting out in 2nd and that is why it was so slow, it never saw first gear unless you did it manually. I never fixed it, it was like our little secret between the "BARGE" and me. So whenever, Dad would drive the car, he would comment about how slow it was. I would just smile say "Yeah, that's OK, it gets me to where I want to go". Now, since all of you that have been reading these posts, know I like to build it up, well this is no exception. I think this is the best story about the Barge. Youngstown, Ohio back in the day had a street you cruised on, it is called Market Street, which is a four lane road. When you would go South on Market Street, you would go a couple miles to an intersection of Rt 224, which is in a suburb called Boardman. On the corner of Rt. 224 and Market Street, there used to be the hang-out at a Morgan's restaurant, which had a pretty big parking area and all the guys with cool muscle cars would park there, shoot the breeze and usually set-up some street races. Now being a 17 year old that wanted to have a muscle car in the worst way, but I could not afford squat and had to drive a 9 passenger station wagon with fake wood grain on the sides would just look at all the cool cars and drool. As you would expect, the barge got a lot of sneers and laughter when I did cruise through Morgan's, but one night it did get revenge against a certain GTO and its owner. This was not a set-up race, it just kind of happened, which was the way most street races occurred, one guy pulled up along side somebody else, they would look over at each other and when the light turned green the race was on. Me and a friend of mine were heading North on Market St, going home and a 66 - 396 Chevelle and a 66 GTO were lined up in front of me (I was behind the Chevelle), and then another GTO pulled up beside me, my buddy was looking at the 2nd GTO and admiring it. I told him these two in front of us are going to race and I am going to see how long the "BARGE" would hang with them. I shifted to LOW gear and then started to foot brake and get up on the convertor a little bit and the back end of the "BARGE" started to lift, we were ready. The light turned green and the two in front of me did not disappoint, they both took off and in true "BARGE" fashion, the front end shot skyward and this probably the point where you figure that I just cleaned the GTO's clock beside me, well, that kind of happened cause my buddy was watching the GTO beside us and from what he told me when we went skyward, the GTO driver's cigarette fell out of his mouth and he stalled his car looking for the cigarette between his legs. Needless to say, the "BARGE" held on for about half way thru low gear and then the Chevelle and GTO just started pulling away rather quickly, so I just shifted it back to drive and backed off. Shortly, after I backed off and shifted, a police car came out of a side street in hot pursuit, well as hot pursuit as the cruisers were in those days, (I have a story about the Yenko and a police cruiser I will tell at another time). One of the muscle cars let off and got pulled over and the other one kept going, while the BARGE just cruised on by. Just another little note about my DAD (I think I mentioned how much I LOVED that guy). This was probably in the fall of the year (1967) and he asked me how come the tires on the back of the wagon were pretty much bald? I told him that they were just cheap tires and were probably defective. I don't think he bought it, but it was probably ten years later before I told him about the shift linkage and how fast the "BARGE" really was. I figured by that time the statute of limitations had probably run out. More to come........ |
Re: Where is 69 Yenko Camaro 124379N663539
Awesome story! Glued to my seat waiting for more!
The best thing about going to car shows or cruise nights nowadays is hearing stories like this from guys that lived it! Thank you Sir! |
Re: Where is 69 Yenko Camaro 124379N663539
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SeattleCarGuy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Awesome story! Glued to my seat waiting for more!
The best thing about going to car shows or cruise nights nowadays is hearing stories like this from guys that lived it! Thank you Sir! </div></div> Times two.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] |
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