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I think today is the day we will start seeing them in our mailboxes!

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I'm order number 38 ,day off today and I'm sitting by my mailbox!!

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I received mine today #32 & 34 yes!!!!!, well sort of. I now have the zones, but the dealer info is limited.

Car 1 provided Zone 15 Dealer 339, but dealer name and address records are insufficient.. So if anyone has info on that zone and dealer it would be appreciated. Produced 9/8/69

My other car is zone 11 Dealer 372 and list dealer as Max Meyers Motors in Middlebury , IN. Now when I go to their data base and plug the #'s its show McManus Chevy, Chicago , IL 1970. Produced 4/2/69

I really appreciate the information, but for me the dealer info is inconclusive. Thanks again Roy, and good luck to others searching for dealer info.


BTW if anyone else has info on the zones listed above, I would appreciate that.

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Steve - Did they verify your assumption about your delivering dealer(s)? Can't wait to get mine back for my Nishan Spaulding COPO - I've always suspected that it was dealer traded from Berger.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bergy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Steve - Did they verify your assumption about your delivering dealer(s)? Can't wait to get mine back for my Nishan Spaulding COPO - I've always suspected that it was dealer traded from Berger. </div></div>

I added to my post above, so essentially the answer is no.

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Zone 11 Dealer 372 is McManus Chevrolet.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rixls6</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Zone 11 Dealer 372 is McManus Chevrolet.

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Thanks Rick, that is the dealer I suspected. I was surprised that the shipping data records listed Max Meyers Motors, Middlebury,IN. Again,thanks Rick and Roy for confirming my suspicion.

OK, now the car I really wanted the information on is my 1969 rs/z. I originally purchased it in 1977. Dealer 339 Zone 15. Someone must have a car purchased from this mysterious dealer. I purchased the car in the Cherry Hill, NJ area .

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Got both my reports today the 1968 Nova came back as Wallace Chevy just like on the broadcast sheet. Production date 7/8/168 dealer code 327 zone 35. The 1970 came back as GK Chevy in Downers Grove, Ill. don't know if this means was dealer trade from there or not since it was converted at Nickey Chevy since these are supposed to be dealer where they were shipped to from factory. Production date 11/13/1969 dealer code 227 zone 11.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OK, now the car I really wanted the information on is my 1969 rs/z. I originally purchased it in 1977. Dealer 339 Zone 15. Someone must have a car purchased from this mysterious dealer. I purchased the car in the Cherry Hill, NJ area .</div></div>

I looked at many sheets from Baltimore built Chevelles, and all the zone 15 cars were dealers in NJ or PA, mostly PA.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rixls6</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OK, now the car I really wanted the information on is my 1969 rs/z. I originally purchased it in 1977. Dealer 339 Zone 15. Someone must have a car purchased from this mysterious dealer. I purchased the car in the Cherry Hill, NJ area .</div></div>

I looked at many sheets from Baltimore built Chevelles, and all the zone 15 cars were dealers in NJ or PA, mostly PA. </div></div>

I just did a little research on McManus, looks like they changed quite a bit Gillespie, Kingdom. I'll pm to discuss further.

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Does anyone know the dealer for code 0. Zone 12. Zone 12 is buffalo but I don't know the dealer. Thanks

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Roy emailed me and told me there is no data for my 69 Z/28. An NICB report was done a few years ago again with no data. He said this happens to about 7% of the cars and it could be a clerical data entry that caused this. Its a &quot;BY BERGER&quot; car with no paper so I was hoping for some info. Thanks Roy for trying.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone know the dealer for code 0. Zone 12. Zone 12 is buffalo but I don't know the dealer. Thanks </div></div>

I believe you will find dealer zero in zone 12 is the zone office. In other words a car going to dealer 0 in zone 12 was initially billed by GM to the Zone Office this happened for many reasons most typically because someone in the zone was assigned the car to use, however cars were billed to zone offices for other reasons also.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsinor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone know the dealer for code 0. Zone 12. Zone 12 is buffalo but I don't know the dealer. Thanks </div></div>

I believe you will find dealer zero in zone 12 is the zone office. In other words a car going to dealer 0 in zone 12 was initially billed by GM to the Zone Office this happened for many reasons most typically because someone in the zone was assigned the car to use, however cars were billed to zone offices for other reasons also. </div></div>thanks Roy. This car in question is a high option 67 Ssrs l78 convertible so maybe some executive ordered it special. Would be nice to find the dealer. Thanks. Jeff

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Sounds like a Brass Hat car Jeff.

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I'm currently at work [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] but my wife just text me saying my car delivered to Van T Chevrolet, Topeka Kansas and the production date was 6/19/1969. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

Thanks Roy and NCRS.....you just made my day. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
Kurt [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

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Now I know how Charlie Brown felt at Halloween! Corvettes get NCRS docs, Pontiac get PHS, Buicks get Sloan, Fords get Marti, and now Chevelles Camaros get this new stuff; Gee, all us &quot;W&quot; Oldsmobile guys get is a rock!!! Remember--&quot;No build sheets from Lansing&quot;--sometimes
broadcast cards. Boy, I'm sure glad I have my &quot;ducks in a row&quot;!!!
Really, I'm glad for all of this, and I have to believe Oldsmobile documents exist somewhere.

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Our Z is 9N5275xx... such a shame no data exists!

Thanks for your attempt Roy.

Dan

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69 Post Sedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm currently at work [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] but my wife just text me saying my car delivered to Van T Chevrolet, Topeka Kansas and the production date was 6/19/1969. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

Thanks Roy and NCRS.....you just made my day. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
Kurt [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] </div></div>

Awesome! I have a &quot;byVan&quot; dealer emblem.....anyone have a Van-T Dealer Emblem? I think I have seen one, but I cannot remember?

Dan

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsinor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone know the dealer for code 0. Zone 12. Zone 12 is buffalo but I don't know the dealer. Thanks </div></div>

I believe you will find dealer zero in zone 12 is the zone office. In other words a car going to dealer 0 in zone 12 was initially billed by GM to the Zone Office this happened for many reasons most typically because someone in the zone was assigned the car to use, however cars were billed to zone offices for other reasons also. </div></div>thanks Roy. This car in question is a high option 67 Ssrs l78 convertible so maybe some executive ordered it special. Would be nice to find the dealer. Thanks. Jeff </div></div>Roy, what other reasons were cars sent to zone offices? At the zone office was there a warehouse or parking lot where the cars were unloaded?

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69 Post Sedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm currently at work [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] but my wife just text me saying my car delivered to Van T Chevrolet, Topeka Kansas and the production date was 6/19/1969. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

Thanks Roy and NCRS.....you just made my day. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
Kurt [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] </div></div>

From Kansas, huh? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cool.gif[/img] Bet you're already wondering how it went from there to the Chicago area.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rixls6</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69 Post Sedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm currently at work [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] but my wife just text me saying my car delivered to Van T Chevrolet, Topeka Kansas and the production date was 6/19/1969. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

Thanks Roy and NCRS.....you just made my day. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
Kurt [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] </div></div>

From Kansas, huh? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cool.gif[/img] Bet you're already wondering how it went from there to the Chicago area. </div></div>

Toto, we`re not in Kansas anymore [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif[/img]

Dan

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsinor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone know the dealer for code 0. Zone 12. Zone 12 is buffalo but I don't know the dealer. Thanks </div></div>

I believe you will find dealer zero in zone 12 is the zone office. In other words a car going to dealer 0 in zone 12 was initially billed by GM to the Zone Office this happened for many reasons most typically because someone in the zone was assigned the car to use, however cars were billed to zone offices for other reasons also. </div></div>thanks Roy. This car in question is a high option 67 Ssrs l78 convertible so maybe some executive ordered it special. Would be nice to find the dealer. Thanks. Jeff </div></div>

The zone office is effectively the dealer, when it went to the frist dealer it was a used car.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsinor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone know the dealer for code 0. Zone 12. Zone 12 is buffalo but I don't know the dealer. Thanks </div></div>

I believe you will find dealer zero in zone 12 is the zone office. In other words a car going to dealer 0 in zone 12 was initially billed by GM to the Zone Office this happened for many reasons most typically because someone in the zone was assigned the car to use, however cars were billed to zone offices for other reasons also. </div></div>thanks Roy. This car in question is a high option 67 Ssrs l78 convertible so maybe some executive ordered it special. Would be nice to find the dealer. Thanks. Jeff </div></div>Roy, what other reasons were cars sent to zone offices? At the zone office was there a warehouse or parking lot where the cars were unloaded? </div></div>

Can't answer that! I'm sure there was a procedure but I do not have a clue what it was.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsinor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rsinor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone know the dealer for code 0. Zone 12. Zone 12 is buffalo but I don't know the dealer. Thanks </div></div>

I believe you will find dealer zero in zone 12 is the zone office. In other words a car going to dealer 0 in zone 12 was initially billed by GM to the Zone Office this happened for many reasons most typically because someone in the zone was assigned the car to use, however cars were billed to zone offices for other reasons also. </div></div>thanks Roy. This car in question is a high option 67 Ssrs l78 convertible so maybe some executive ordered it special. Would be nice to find the dealer. Thanks. Jeff </div></div>
Ok. I know the dealer who was the 2nd owner and is a famous high performance dealer.
The zone office is effectively the dealer, when it went to the frist dealer it was a used car. </div></div>

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I need to run this report on the 1970 Dick Harrell Camaro I found many years ago as we always suspected it came from Van Chevrolet. Sure would be nice to find out if we were correct.

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That's cool it was from the Buffalo zone. Typically, the zone office was the charge to dealer and the car was shipped to a local deal for the new car prep work. Usually were cars ordered by zone reps or owners of dealers. If the file on your car showed zone 12, dealer 0....then are these records actually the dealer (location) charged instead of where it was shipped? (Most were the same)

Not sure I've ever seen a car shipped directly to the zone office as per the docs.

Warren

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paceme</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I received mine today #32 &amp; 34 yes!!!!!, well sort of. I now have the zones, but the dealer info is limited.

Car 1 provided Zone 15 Dealer 339, but dealer name and address records are insufficient.. So if anyone has info on that zone and dealer it would be appreciated. Produced 9/8/69

My other car is zone 11 Dealer 372 and list dealer as Max Meyers Motors in Middlebury , IN. Now when I go to their data base and plug the #'s its show McManus Chevy, Chicago , IL 1970. Produced 4/2/69

I really appreciate the information, but for me the dealer info is inconclusive. Thanks again Roy, and good luck to others searching for dealer info.


BTW if anyone else has info on the zones listed above, I would appreciate that.

Hello Steve,
I have some information from 1977 of zone 15 dealer 339.
Jay Chevrolet
301 South Burntmill Road
Voorhees, NJ 08043
I can not tell you this is the same information for the year of 1969.
Regards,
Drew Papsun

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All of my info came in complete:

Production date matches the build date on the TT.

Dealer code 77 Zone 47

Dick Brubaker Inc
Kewanee, IL

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TAR6569</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's cool it was from the Buffalo zone. Typically, the zone office was the charge to dealer and the car was shipped to a local deal for the new car prep work. Usually were cars ordered by zone reps or owners of dealers. If the file on your car showed zone 12, dealer 0....then are these records actually the dealer (location) charged instead of where it was shipped? (Most were the same)

Not sure I've ever seen a car shipped directly to the zone office as per the docs.

Warren </div></div>the 2nd dealer was not a local dealer near the zone

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I just received my letter, I do not know whether to laugh or cry [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img]

6/23/69, Dealer code 1, Zone 79 (Hawaii), Dealer Name: GM overseas Distribution

Now what the heck am I supposed to do with that!

I bought the car in north NJ in 82 and it had a Seton Hall University sticker on the window. This car really traveled! LA to Hawaii to NJ!!!

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Soldier bought a car through the military at the PX??

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rixls6</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69 Post Sedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm currently at work [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/mad.gif[/img] but my wife just text me saying my car delivered to Van T Chevrolet, Topeka Kansas and the production date was 6/19/1969. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

Thanks Roy and NCRS.....you just made my day. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]
Kurt [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img] </div></div>

From Kansas, huh? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/cool.gif[/img] Bet you're already wondering how it went from there to the Chicago area. </div></div>

Toto, we`re not in Kansas anymore [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif[/img]

Dan </div></div>

I love the production date. 6/19/1969

Great news, I predict a trip to Kansas in your future.

Ryan

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TAR6569</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's cool it was from the Buffalo zone. Typically, the zone office was the charge to dealer and the car was shipped to a local deal for the new car prep work. Usually were cars ordered by zone reps or owners of dealers. If the file on your car showed zone 12, dealer 0....then are these records actually the dealer (location) charged instead of where it was shipped? (Most were the same)

Not sure I've ever seen a car shipped directly to the zone office as per the docs.

Warren </div></div>

My 1967 IPC was sent to the Indy Zone Office per the NCIB report...

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First of all I want to thank Roy Sinor for what he's doing for us! Got my report in today,Chevelle was built in van nays
And sold to angstman motor inc. havre Montana dealer code 35 in zone 36..production date 4/7/1971. Anyone with .information on this dealer I will greatly appreciate it.thanks

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Van T was dealer 887 in zone 5.

I'm not sure how they officially confirm the exact production date but June 19,1969 correlates with my trim tag 03733 which comes out to the 373rd car built on the 3rd day of the week, Wednesday, June 18th.

Pretty cool.

Kurt

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My old 71 Judge was a factory show car. I had two factory to dealer invoices. The original one showed the Pontiac zone office in Jenkintown, PA as the bill to or dealer. When you run the PHS report now and get a copy of the invoice it showed Ted Rapp Pontiac in NJ as the bill to dealer. If the original owner and other owners did not keep that document I would have never known that. The buildsheet showed the zone office as well. What was really cool was that the buildsheet in machine print stated tag for Detroit / Atlantic City Auto shows. So from my experience with a Pontiac GM did change the information when the Zone office car was sent or bought by a dealer.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69 Post Sedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Van T was dealer 887 in zone 5.

I'm not sure how they officially confirm the exact production date but June 19,1969 correlates with my trim tag 03733 which comes out to the 373rd car built on the 3rd day of the week, Wednesday, June 18th.

Pretty cool.

Kurt </div></div>

I always knew she was a good car, being built on a Wednesday confirms it [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/headbang.gif[/img]

Dan

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: luzl78</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TAR6569</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That's cool it was from the Buffalo zone. Typically, the zone office was the charge to dealer and the car was shipped to a local deal for the new car prep work. Usually were cars ordered by zone reps or owners of dealers. If the file on your car showed zone 12, dealer 0....then are these records actually the dealer (location) charged instead of where it was shipped? (Most were the same)

Not sure I've ever seen a car shipped directly to the zone office as per the docs.

Warren </div></div>the 2nd dealer was not a local dealer near the zone </div></div>

How far away was it from Buffalo?

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KevinW</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just received my letter, I do not know whether to laugh or cry [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif[/img]

6/23/69, Dealer code 1, Zone 79 (Hawaii), Dealer Name: GM overseas Distribution

Now what the heck am I supposed to do with that!

I bought the car in north NJ in 82 and it had a Seton Hall University sticker on the window. This car really traveled! LA to Hawaii to NJ!!! </div></div>

There was a GM Overseas Division based out of New York City or that area. I think they had offices in multiple areas but the main one was in NY. I had a pop from a 67 Balto Chevelle and the dealer stamp was from the NY office and the owner lived in Wisconsin. I've seen a Chevelle build sheet that was charged to the same office then shipped to a dealer in the tri-state area. It's quite possible the info they gave you was who the car was charged to but it may have been shipped to a NJ dealer.