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Looks professional [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

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Got the Brake lines finished up today and bled the brakes also......Didn't do too bad.....had about 13 brake line connections and only had 12 leaks..........Another thing off the list....


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Ken

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......Didn't do too bad.....had about 13 brake line connections and only had 12 leaks..........Another thing off the list....



lol!

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Obviously then, you forgot to connect <span style="font-weight: bold">BOTH</span> ends of the 13th line. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

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Very clean work as usual and always very inspirational.

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well whats going on lol not time for Jamaica yet !!!

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Waiting for parts to show up............

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OKeyDoughKey lol

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Well.........It seems that me and the rear brake God have some issues......Complete Wilwood system including Master Cylinder.......I bench bleed the master and had to &quot;Work&quot; it to get the rear system bubble free.........the front cleared up with a couple of pumps.........So.....everything installed (all new brake lines)and gravity bled till I got some help to finish the job........Bled the fronts and when opening the bleeder valve it was like a water fountain and the pedal went to the floor as it should.......Great!!......go to do the rears and I would get a couple of drops and the pedal stayed right where it was......Hummm!!!.........either side didn't make a difference.........Hummmm!!!............So....I'm thinking maybe the adjustable proportioning valve is the issue......so I crank it in to give it maximum flow........go to bleed them again......same thing ......a couple drops of fluid without any pedal drop.......So......I call Wilwood and talk to one of the tech guys.........After conversation with them I learned that even with the proportioning valve at full flow.....it only allows 57% of volume thru......so......Today I decided to remove the prop valve..........while I was making a new brake line I decided to do the bench bleed again.....after removing the brake line I put my thumb over the port and worked the pedal thru the steering column hole.....I got some pressure but not enough to blow my thumb off the port......Hummm!!!.......So.....I finish up and install the new line and again....in bleeding the rear I just get a couple of drops with no pedal drop...............Am I missing something???.......It would seem to me that the M/C even though new could be bad....


On another note.....I ordered the wheels today...........and tomorrow I should receive the balance of my Dakota Digital order so I can continue on with the wiring.........I also got all the belts installed and tensioned correctly.........And.....In checking out the pan clearance with the steering arms......It seems I not going to have any clearance issues......(But...the suspension is still unloaded).......


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Well look at the bright side, you now can go to Pep Boys and be hired as their Brake Specialist [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Dan

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Here's the wheels I ordered.........Grey centers and brushed rims..........

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Ken, you need your own TV show! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DBelk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ken, you need your own TV show! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img] </div></div>

Agreed!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here's the wheels I ordered.........Grey centers and brushed rims..........

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...l-0190_sml.jpg</div></div> great choice of rims ....just bench bled a master today came with 2 plugs to screw in where lines go kept pumping till rock hard then installed as far as rear brakes center pin in master long enough ? never mind no power brakes... as far as lines go maybe front is rear and rear is front

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I want a Pre-Power Tour BLAST in this Chevelle.....just as long as the brakes are working [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

Dan

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Took the master off again last night and bench bled it again.......angled it slightly to raise the ports......no air......the front port has great flow into the reservoir while energizing.......create a wave from the bleeder line......the rear.......even though there is fluid movement doesn't have enough flow to even see any movement in the bowl.........Gotta be that the master is bad.........fluid flow but no force behind it.......I talked to the Wilwood guys and they want me to send it back to the person I bought the kit from so he can send it back to them for them to look at it....then they will send it back to him so he can send it to me...........(Just like the Government).......So......I took the easy way out and just ordered a new one from Jeg's......

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That's going to look good!

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So......I took the easy way out and just ordered a new one from Jeg's......


That's what they were hoping you would do.... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smirk.gif[/img]

And nice work too Ken.. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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There is not alot to a master cylinder so why don't you pull the snap ring and take it apart. You have a new one coming anyway.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is not alot to a master cylinder so why don't you pull the snap ring and take it apart. You have a new one coming anyway. </div></div>




I was just thinking the same thing!!..........

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Another one of those little things that get stuck in the back of your head that you know will become a problem downstream because it's going too smooth just popped up........Now that I'm going to pull the engine for the last time (Hopefully) and tie up some loose ends......I decided to go back and check the tie rod to oil pan clearance that everyone else has &quot;Issues&quot; with....I didn't have any ......I had a slight contact in one direction but plenty of clearance when turning the other direction.....so....I noticed the center drag link wasn't centered with the engine and I thought I could get away with adjusting the tie rod ends to get everything centered and have clearance...........so.......I check everything again today and notice that the rotors didn't look like they were turning far enough.......so I start thinking about the turning radius not being sharp enough which would then shorten the drag link travel from side to side..........So.....I check to see where the steering arm stops contact the lower control arm..........Hummm!!.......I measure the Ridetech contact point and it's approx. 2 1/4&quot; from the stop surface to the center of the ball joint..........I get out my stock lower arm and measure it at 1 1/2&quot; ....Hummmmm!!!!.......I'll call Ridetech on Monday.....Better to deal with it now than after the engine is plugged in and all the accessories are on...........Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a molehill again...........

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Ken, do you ever SLEEP? Ron.....

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kwhizz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a molehill again........... </div></div>


It's better to be safe than sorry...

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Well.......The day started out with me calling Ridetech and asking about the steering stops hitting way before the stock position and this was taking away from the turn radius of the car (again.....from the ball joint C/L to the stop surface on the lower control arm........Stock GM is 1 1/2&quot;.........Ridetech 2 1/4 inches.........)I sent pictures as requested and haven't heard anything since............I need to get this resolved so I can modify the pan for drag link clearance if req'd.........

The next issue was the trans cross member.........It seems that when the previous owners added the Turbo 400 trans they did the Hillbilly cut and weld to make it fit......so after looking and figuring out what to do with it.......I decided to make it bolt into the stock frame location and holes......and it ended up that the rubber trans mount ended up right in the middle of the crossmember...........so we made a new detail and cut and welded it together.....brought it home and it fell into place........then..........the new Wilwood Master cylinder showed up.....I knew the old one had some issues ( cause I are Smart)........opened up the new one , Bench bled it for a half hour .........not a hint of air and it seemed this one has more flow to the rear chamber.....so.....I knew this was gonna be easy..........Stick it on the car , bleed the fronts....no problem.......go to do the rear.........Same thing........no pedal drop while bleeding and just a few drops of fluid out of the bleeder and No clamping pressure at all on the rear rotors.........Darn!!!..........Time to start breaking the new lines apart and look for a restriction somewhere...........(a smart person would have probably done that B4 buying a new Master).......I also got the new Holley Pan Baffle assy that was recommended.......


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I also changed my mind on the wheels I ordered.......Final Pick.....LOL

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Nice crossmember mod Ken! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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The welds look like MIG for the braces to hold the cross member in place and TIG to modify the cross member, your shop must be very well set up.

Ryan

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> your shop must be very well set up.

Ryan </div></div>

Ha! You should see his shop and machinery..... Spoiled brat!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SS427</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> your shop must be very well set up.

Ryan </div></div>

Ha! You should see his shop and machinery..... Spoiled brat! </div></div>


But I can't bench bleed a stupid master cylinder...........Darn!!!

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All the tools in the world are not any good......without a skilled craftsman. You are a skilled craftsman, master cylinder not withstanding.............

ktownkid [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]

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Two steps forward today........So......While waiting for my Princess to come home to help with Bleeding the brakes......I decided to wrap up another loose end.......I bought an American Autowire custom wire kit and needed to get in the trunk and get the rear harness in......along with the Dakota Digital LED tail lights.......Got everything installed and hooked up......the back of the car is now finished.......Checked on the Rick's Vaporworx Stainless tank and it is supposed to be shipping this week.......Now........Getting back to the brake issue.......

I was taking the easy way out and bled the fronts first as I could do that somewhat easily as the steering column is still out so I could reach thru the firewall and work the brake pedal to get at least a partial pedal by doing the drivers side first....Absolutely wrong ....but by convienence I did it that way......So......I was told to do the rears first......Duhhhh!!!!........So....I removed the front brake line and installed the bench bleeder in the front chamber....when she got home we started bleeding the rears...........Nothing.....no pedal.....just a few drops of fluid...........Darn!!!............after 10 minutes of nothing happening......I decided to change brake lines around and hook the rear line to the front port and moved the bench bleeder stuff to the rear port........Started bleeding the rears using the front and it looked like a drinking fountain out of the rear calipers......so....the rear brakes lines were O.K...........switched the lines back to normal and I now have front and rear brakes.........Bingo!!!...........I'm not even gonna try and figure it out.........Still waiting to hear from Ridetech to see if their parts increased the turn radius so I can get the oil pan clearance issues resolved.......I'll call them again tomorrow.....


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Ken

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&quot;switched the lines back to normal and I now have front and rear brakes.........Bingo!!!...........I'm not even gonna try and figure it out.........&quot;

Someone must have a suggestion, an idea or a stupid comment that will lead to the root cause. I remember bleeding brakes (gas jockey pumping the pedal) on a Volare at the tender age of 13 for two days until the mechanic figured out the left caliper was on the right and the right was on the left and the bleeders were lower than the highest point of fluid/air in the system.......

Ryan

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Now that the stupid Brake issues are gone......I took the day today and got all the Disc Brake emergency brake cables integrated into the system and it's all finished up and working perfectly........The wildwood expanding internal brakes built into the rotors are ......Lets just say a lot &quot;Better&quot; than the Seville rears used on the last couple swaps......Great job Wilwood!!!!...........I also started getting the console wiring made and installed .......doubled checked the Neutral safety switch and the back up light switch and everything works where and when it's supposed to......I also got the info on the turning radius of the Ridetech suspension.........It is a slightly larger turn radius than stock but they said not to worry about it.........So.......I'm not gonna worry......LOL........Time for a Nap!!!


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Ken

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Wiring guy! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 69SUPERSPORT396</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wiring guy! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img] </div></div>


Yep!!..........And I also got a Pro Fessional Crimper tool......No Plier squeez'in for this Voltmeter Guy!!!

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Cool Crimper [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Dan

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I love using those. I have a pair of Greenlee and the dies for spark plug wires are awesome!

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u r good all the neat tools too !!

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Wire crimper guy!!

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Will that fancy crimper make it so your turn signal does not stay on for miles and miles on Power Tour ?