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The interesting thing is that the stick-shift, R/T version for 2009 has a 5.7 liter, 375 horse hemi engine while the auto gets the 370 horse version. The stick motored car also does not get the multi-displacement hemi that goes from 4 cyl to 8 cyl.

I would imagine they are going to upgrade the 425 horse SRT version very rapidly to the 392 hemi engine. That's a classic Viper marketing move: keep upping the power every year so you have to buy the next greatest version out of the factory or get sand kicked in your face at the beach. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...mlins/grin.gif

Re: RT & SE Challenger
 

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Johnny,

I can't believe you didn't wait for the attempted gouging for 15K over sticker? LOL My local Ford dealer held out for over a year at over MSRP on the GT 500 and finally gave in and let me order one at MSRP. The local Ford dealers here are selling a lot of Shelby's to out of state buyers who buy them in Vegas and have them shipped to the Vegas Shelby factory for mods so they are some of the last dealers to offer the GT 500s at MSRP.

I don't understand Dodge's plan with the Challenger. I love the car but don't want to be sitting at a stop light with my 425 HP two pedal Challenger when a guy in a GT 500 with 500 HP drops the clutch and walks me? It's one thing to be in your four door two pedal 425 HP family Charger and another IMHO to be driving around town in a 4000 pound Challenger styled after the iconic Challengers of the past boasting a whopping 425 HP in a car that says drag race me if you can all over it(not that I would street race and break the law)? The 2008 Challenger is perhaps the epitomy of the old saying "all show and no go".

I bet GM doesn't make the same mistake and right out of the box the Camaro offers 500 HP and a stick to take on the Mustang?

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Les, one can only hope they don't screw up the Camaro. I thought about the GT 500, though I have not had a stang since my 88 gt 5sp vert. I am starting to get confused with all the iterations of the mustang. I think I want what you have. a GT 500. I want a six speed convertible. I know the Shelby one is getting a ton over sticker. What is the diference between all these versions?

John

PS I will be in Vegas ( at the Mirage I think) from 4/8-4/10. I am meeting one of my brothers and our parents for a little relaxation. If you want to come pin my inards to my rib cage with one of your stable...........I would be game https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/naughty.gif

Re: RT & SE Challenger
 

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I think the problem is your point of view. The Challenger is brand-new, so why not let the vehicle settle in the market and see what happens? At least Dodge doesn't have to engineer an engine for the Challenger - it's already in the portfolio. With the mess that Chrysler's in at the moment, it just doesn't make sense to introduce a super-zoomy engine from the get-go . . . hell, even the Mustang took a few years to get 500hp, right?

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Its not the motor, they did that right by going to straight to the srt 425hp version.(the only engine choice offered) Its not letting me row my own gears, that is keeping me from buying. Ford did not do that.

JOHN

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I am a chevy guy but the dodge looks alot nicer and a bit retro

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g took a few years to get 500hp, right?

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Its not the motor, they did that right by going to straight to the srt 425hp version.(the only engine choice offered) Its not letting me row my own gears, that is keeping me from buying. Ford did not do that.

JOHN

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You can row your own gears.

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You can row your own gears.

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I hope you don;t mean with the autostick and a torque converter. I want a third pedal! https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ins/3gears.gif

Re: RT & SE Challenger
 

Yes, a 6-speed stick with Pistol Grip.

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Yes, a 6-speed stick with Pistol Grip.

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Not in the first batch of 4000 plus cars. Maybe next year, but this first years is auto only and srt 425hp only. When the top drops and the clutch pedal appears..............so will my money.

Re: RT & SE Challenger
 

So for 2009 the Challenger HP is going down from 425 to 375??? I read that on the VCA sight but thought I read it wrong and didn't comment. So what is the Dodge business plan? Continually reduce HP and performance as a way of competing in the marketplace for performance vehicles??? https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/dunno.gif

Johnny, the GT 500 is the Shelby GT 500 I just don't call it the Shelby because he has nothing to do with it other than loaning Ford his name it's in my opinion a SVT Mustang badged as a Shelby. He is building 319 HP versions at his factory called the Shelby SC or something derived from the 300 HP base Mustang. He(Shelby) is also building 1000 units of the GT500 KR which increases HP to 540 with some suspension tweaks.