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We all have different visions of quality and from the auction pics the car looks nice. I do remember the issue of the vin stamping on the front pad. Stuff like the undercoating was clearly shown in the auction. Sorry you are not happy with it but I bet you now have a better idea of what questions to ask next time. It looks like you bought it after the auction also.

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Not to be a party pooper but...GRUSUM are you related to the Bain that these guys all have issues with?

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Why even travel down that path?

I think Grusum is a little surprised at the Camaro he bought. I have never bought a car I have not personally inspected myself first. If necessary, I also will bring a professional restorer, judge or mechanic. When I bought my '66 Corvette Convertible original owner car, we brought a NCRS 300 level master Judge, when we bought the Z28, we brought my good friend who owns a restoration shop to ensure the metal was rust free and as described. It is hard to trust people these days when all these muscle cars do is increase in value, seemingly over night…

So you learned LESSON NUMBER ONE really well. Never buy a car without going to see it. Its like buying a new car. Would you spend $42k on a new BMW without driving it or going to the dealer? Absolutely not. The same should be said about classic car purchases as well. We even flew into Chicago to inspect my plane jane '70 Camaro that was viewed and inspected by a big time source from this website. You can NEVER be too careful. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...ns/scholar.gif

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CAN I HAVE IT!

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GRUSUM, this is a long running joke, when ever someone gets a new car we all try to be the first to ask "Can I have it" (for free).

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Yeah, I just felt that the undercoating shouldn't have fallen off the first trip to the car wash. Some aspects of the car are surely a very hasty "spiff up to flip" job. I just expected more for my money. Things like the exhaust manifolds, they just got a quick blast of grey for the pictures, there's even overspray on the orange of the head, other areas where filler was roughly sanded and recently painted (didn't remove door edge guards), etc.

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You got me Ray......for a while there I had my hopes up that you were serious. I must add that I did have some independant support to making me think the car was up to snuff. Out of the blue I phoned a guy in Fishkill, N. Y., to see if he knew anything about the car. I had talked to him about a car that he had up for sale quite a while ago and he was very honest and forthcoming with me, he even told me the he had for sale was a re-stamp without me asking. He said the seller was a friend and if he said it was legit than it was so. This was before I found you guys by the way. Also the seller told me that during the time period that my car sat at his place waiting for the shipper a guy came by and pestered them almost daily for them to contact me to sell to him for a profit. This was all positive reinforcement that I had bought the right car. Hope I get a call from him soon!

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OH yeah, I forgot to tell you, a credit card sized piece of bondo flew off the hood the minute I washed it too, right up front in the middle(not a very good first impression) .

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Dash extremely floppy, Instrumet/guage bezel broken. I might have to go out to the garage and look at it again, I know there's more. Then again, maybe I should shut up, I wouldn't make a very good salesman would I.

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Seriuosly though what's up with this other Bain guy. You've got me relly curious. Is he a pedophile or worse. Let me guess, he does repop tags. LOL

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Hey, this venting bit is really theraputic! The more I talk about it,I'm actually getting a little pi$$ed off instead of just being depressed. I want to publicly thank you guys for your site and your personal comments, both are very insightful and informative. It's nice to correspond with people who know their stuff and who have probably been in my position at one time or another. For that I'll be sending a donation to help ensure this site will continue to educate and inform enthusiasts. Having a priceless resource at your finger tips is a reassuring feeling, knowing that you can bounce your opinions off the people "in the know", and you will get a dozen intelligent responses. Like the little guy with the sign says: YOU GUYS ROCK!! I would like to hear what anybody has to say about my options concerning my dilemma.

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Gordon,
I feel a litle responsible as i'm the one that started the original thread concerning this car.I have been looking for a nice second gen for a few years,and when I came across this one I posted the auction here to see what other members thought of it.To me yellow with houndstooth is one of the coolest combo's on any camaro bar none-but my only concern,(other that zero paperwork)was the trim tag-not that it wasn't the real deal,but that it looked to have been off at one point.I made a toungue in cheek joke about rebody and Well,I recieved more than one PM asking what my problem was,including the then owner who is registered here,when all I was trying to do was get a read from more people as to what the impression was of the originality of the car.Had I known the seller was an SYC member or the car been posted in the for sale section here,I never would have addressed the car publically.

A few years ago I was high bidder on a 70 M22 RSZ and about a day before the auction ended I receieved an e/m from a moderator on the second gen site concering the car.He posted a link to the thread where it was being discussed and it was categorically proven to be a clone.I contacted the seller(who was a peace officer)and sent him a link to the thread where his car was being discussed.After he calmed down,he realized that he had been duped by the person that sold it to him years ago.I retracted my bid,(which he was amenable to),and he sold it to the second highest bidder who didn't care if it was real or not(this was back when nice second gens were still in the mid teens).The point being is I was indebted to the member from that forum who took the time to hip my dumb azz that I was going to get soaked on a clone,(which your car is not)Sounds like it is mechanically sound,if you decide to keep the car and put another 10k into paint I dont think you will be upside down a the rate these are appreciating,especially with that color combo.JHMO https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/imag...lins/beers.gif

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I have just reviewed the auction again and I have to tell you the car looks pretty darn good in the pictures. I wouldn't be to concerned about fit and finish because he clearing stated it wasn't a show car and needed some work.

I would hope you did your homework before you bought the car and realized what was wrong or missing on the car. From what I see anything wrong or missing can be found and corrected. For example I mentioned way on that the radio was incorrect so it needs to be relaced anyways.

If you were looking for a correct vehicle and had any reservations, spending a few bucks to have someone check out the car would have saved you the aggrevation you are now experiencing.

In my opinion the car has great potential. Great color combo, with correct motor/tranny/rear, RS option, etc.. In the long run I don't see you losing on this. Start looking for the correct parts, correct them and have fun.

Rick H.