Re: Baldwin Car For Sale
 

Okay Steve, I'll put The DANA in my will to you. Now you just got to hope I croak before you. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif[/img] Anyway you have good taste in junk. All your cars are awesome, not a bad one in the bunch.

COPO Charlie, I got one email, that I replied to from my Laptop. Is that the one or did you send a second one? Thanks.

Re: Baldwin Car For Sale
 

Sent another one to your AOL account.

Re: Not a Baldwin Car, Not for Sale
 

I confess that I am probably the yo-yo referred to in the previous posts by SuperCars.

Sensing a ëSmoke Screení I did not believe that the car in question could have been purchased so quickly & I called Dustin. He stated that the car had not been sold although SuperCars had faxed a Sales Agreement & he, in turn, offered the Vin #. He also said he had not signed the agreement nor was there a deposit on the car. The added that SuperCars was planning to come look at the car within the next few days. Dustin didnít seem to know that the car had been posted as ìsoldî on the website hence his post that the car was still available.

The asking price was $9k but with other recently purchased parts he wanted $12k. Three other people looked it over the day I called. I told Dustin that with B-M documentation that the car would be worth for more than his asking price (possibly $30k-50k) & recommended he contact Joel before making his final decision to sell the car. I then told him that if SuperCars passed on the car to consider me second & guaranteed a back up offer of $12k plus $3k if heíd install the drive train ñ but added if it was B-M that Iíd pay more.

SuperCars, your post regarding individuals circumventing your purchase of this car raised my ire. After all, you attempted to do the same to me last year when I was buying my Gibb / Harrell Nova-Even after the seller told you that we had consummated the deal w/ a written agreement & a substantial deposit.

In closing, Iíll say that Dustin seemed like a nice young guy who, in my opinion, shouldnít have been bullied into selling his car to the first person to agree to his asking price & that he had every right to re-think his decision without legal action becoming part of the equation. He, his fiancÈ & his father should be commended for their ethics for what appeared to be some sort of a verbal agreement, which quickly snowballed into something else. Good luck to you! Jude

Re: Not a Baldwin Car, Not for Sale
 

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when whomever you Yo-Yo's out there are calling him to try to buy it, when you idiots calling him don't know anything about this car.

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Re: Baldwin Car For Sale
 

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I attribute some of the problems to callers that were trying to undermine our deal.

Pictures will get posted when I return home

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Re: Baldwin Car For Sale
 

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maybe you should post those pictures on YOUR site

Re: Baldwin Car For Sale
 

Jude,
I can tell that you're upset and I don't blame you, given your description of the antics when you bought your Nova and the discussion you had with this seller. It doesn't sound like you did ANYTHING wrong, so I doubt that you're the "yo-yo" in question. There's a giant leap between a draft agreement and a formalized written agreement. After reading Dustin's post the other evening, it would appear that he didn't feel like a purchase contract had been consummated at the time you called.

You obviously felt the need to defend yourself, and you've done so admirably. Have a good week! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]
SS

Re: Baldwin Car For Sale
 

Not long ago I had contacted Dave Belk to let him know of a Deuce in Traverse city Michigan. Dave called the owner, made a deal for a tidy sum, and went on his way with truck and trailer towards Traverse City to pick up the car. Meanwhile, someone else here that was aware of the deal mentioned it to a few other people, and on down the line, next thing you know Dave is calling me from Chicago, halfway into the trip, to let me know he had just talked to the seller who had sold the car to someone else. The new buyer had no idea a deal had already been made on the car and when he found out he offered to Dave to bow out of the deal. Honorable. Dave responded with telling the new buyer to go ahead and get the car and turned around and went home frustrated, yet honorable. The seller who expected X amount of $$, came to agree on that amount with Dave. Meanwhile, someone unknowing of the previous deal offers more and the seller jumps on it. Dishonorable. If Kevin had a contract and deposit the seller should not have even been discussing the sale of the car to anyone else. It appears all the interest generated may have awoke the great Dragon of greed to possibly cause the seller to rethink his first deal. If Kevin had struck a deal, that was it, it was Kevin's car. But, it is possible that the other people inquiring about the car may not have been aware of a previous deal as with the Deuce, possibly the seller had led others to believe there was no deal as evidenced by his post. However Kevin, had it all been reversed and you were calling on the car unaware or convinced by the seller there was no deal, I dont think that would make you a yo-yo or an idiot, it would make you a car collector in search of your passion. The seller and his family may be nice people, but I am a bit confused as to how you had a deal yet the seller is posting there was no deal, thereby inviting anyone else interested to call. Looking at the big picture, other then a possible big misunderstanding I would think the harsh remarks should have been directed at the seller if anyone at all for advertising the car further after a deal had been made. Two things in this world will cause people to operate outside the boundries of honor and common sense, love and money, which this situation has both, the love of the hobby and the money from potential profit. Somebody owes somebody an apology here, I am not sure though who those individuals may be. Just my opinion.
Thanks,
Motown [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]

Re: Baldwin Car For Sale
 

Well said Jude [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Re: Not a Baldwin Car, Not for Sale
 

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I then told him that if SuperCars passed on the car to consider me second & guaranteed a back up offer

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Jude, Ray Morrison gave me Paul's phone number, and it was unknown to both us that you had an agreement with Paul. I called Paul out of the dark, not even knowing he had the car for sale. What you posted above is exactly what I told Paul Rochester about his (now your) Gibb Nova when you were in process of buying it and had a written agreement with Paul. That if you didn't follow through I'd like to be second on it. Nothing more than that. I didn't tell him he should be getting a lot more $ for it as you were paying way under market value.

Dustin indeed had signed the written agreement on 10-16-03 and his fiance also signed and faxed it back to me from her work at Hale Chiropractic. The day I flew down I gave him $500 cash and a check for $4,000, even after I found that the rear end and trans was not original as he said it was. I couldn't inspect the motor as the guy storing it wasn't home and Dustin did not even have his phone number. I merely asked that they hold on cashing the $4,000 check until I could see the motor. Instead of paying in full we made an amendment (he signed also) that the balance of $4,500 wired to him when all the parts to the car were rounded up and the car ready for pick up.

http://www.corvettes-musclecars.com/...net/70Nova.jpg

Then AFTER signing this agreement and accepting the deposit of $500 cash plus $4,000 check, they posted in this thread that they are still taking offers. Why do you feel they didn't have to honor a signed agreement with a deposit. Why do you feel its right that I should spend a $1,000 to fly down, just to get the run around? I didn't bully them, I just expected them to honor the agreement, is that wrong???

How would you have felt if Paul Rochester had posted on the Yenko site that his Gibb Nova was for sale, and he was taking offers after you had a written agreement and had given Paul money? Paul didn't, but that is what Dustin did to me.

Jude, you really aren't being fair here. Anyway I thank you for the Chevelle magazine you sent, that was very nice of you. I emailed a thanks, but it didn't go through, you must have changed your email address.

Shor, what is your issue? All you've done is back out on a car deal with me, with some excuse that my orange Yenko from Otis Chandler's collection wasn't in(Otis owned 2 orange ones) Otis Chandlers book. I never told you it was, but I graciously sent your $40,000 deposit back, no questions asked. What more could I do for you???

This must be bash Kevin week. Started because I point out that it isn't right for guys to call to mess up a car deal that really isn't any of their business.