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COPO PETE 09-10-2002 03:03 AM

Re: Special paint.....
 
I have a copy of a window sticker of a 69 COPO Chevelle that shows 01001HA "special paint" That shows suggested price as $33.75. and actual price as $26.71. My COPO Chevelle tag shows -- and it was a daytona yellow car.
Peter

JoeC 09-10-2002 04:33 AM

Re: Special paint.....
 
What I am thinking on the COPO Chevelles is that since they were not SS Chevelles they needed some additional COPO paper work to get the SS only colors Monaco Orange and Daytona Yellow.

Kurt S 09-10-2002 06:18 AM

Re: Special paint.....
 
Just a post on terminology.
We talked about this several months ago and Jim has confirmed it above. The ordering of the special colors was not a COPO process. A more accurate statement is that special paint needed Central Office approval (specifically the F&SO dept).

And I was thinking the same thing about the special paint Chevelles. But couldn't see much logic to it. An orange SS or an orange plainjane is still orange with the same paint code. But something at the plant made it need to be differentiated......

copo9566aa 09-10-2002 06:30 AM

Re: Special paint.....
 
Just a sample
I found a 69 Chevelle with - - PNT and the body is all sandblasted,
no trace of painting.
I contact GM Canada with the VIN.I have chance this is a Chevelle
sold in Canada. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
GM Canada confirm this is a Chevelle COPO with ZP3 special paint
But the paint is not recorded. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif[/img]
Another chance I have the buildsheet,the buildsheet show 1001HA
special order paint price, "cool but Yellow or Orange" [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif[/img]
How I lets to know if it were Daytona Yellow or Monaco Orange Chevelle
COPO or another special paint. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif[/img]

This is just a sample. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

hvychev 09-10-2002 06:36 AM

Re: Special paint.....
 
This is a GREAT post! I second Mr70's suggestion to Jim M that if he wrote a book that I would buy it as well. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

JoeC 09-10-2002 12:13 PM

Re: Special paint.....
 
COPO9566, I would think that there should be some sign of original paint color even if the body was chemical dipped. My Chevelle still has original rugs and under them the original paint is in good condition. Look at all interior parts that were removed such as seat brackets, screws, hinges, etc. for a trace of the original paint color or chips of original paint.
I ran this post through English-French conversion software. Not sure if it will read correctly.

Je penserait cela l·-bas doit ’tre quelques signe d'original peinture m’me si le corps ªtait chimique trempª. Mon Chevelle a toujours des tapis originaux et sous eux la peinture originale est dans la bonne condition. Regarde du tout intªrieur qui ont Etª enlevª tel que si¿ge , vis, gonds, etc. pour une trace de l'original peinture ou fragments d'original peinture. J'ai couru cette poste par le logiciel de conversion anglais-fran°ais. Pas sr s'il lira correctement.

Jim Mattison 09-10-2002 12:28 PM

Re: Special paint.....
 
Wow!!! It appears that there is a lot of interest in the special paint process. I'll do my best to answer most all of everyones questions.

First, back in the late 60s and early 70s anyone could order their new Chevy with a special color. Literally any color under the rainbow was available, except for the Cadillac Firemist colors.

The pricing for a solid color "Special Paint" would vary between no charge and $125.00. Volume would dictate the pricing.

If the customer was a fleet account, or if the dealer would order multiple vehicles in the same color, the pricing would be n/c. However, if the dealer would order a single unit, the pricing could go as high as $125, with various prices in between, based on many other factors.

Some of the other conditions that would require a car order to come through my group were: "Delete Stripes" on a Z-28, Chevelle SS, or other model with painted stripes. A color that was current production , but on a different model, would also require our approval. We did lots of cars in "Hugger Orange" that normally didn't come in that color as n/c. Also, you wouldn't believe the number of Chevrolets that were painted the popular 1968-69 Pontiac color, "Verdoro Green"! I even remember a fair number of cars being ordered in the 1970 Chrysler color "Plum Crazy"!

It's too bad that I can't get to the Supercar Reunion this year and answer many of your questions in person. It would be so much easier to explain in more detail. However, with the production on the F-body coming to a close, GM has me scheduled to go to the Corvette Museum and represent both Chevy and Pontiac on the same weekend at the Camaro-Firebird Gathering, in Bowling Green, Kentucky.

Jim Mattison


Mr70 09-10-2002 01:13 PM

Re: Special paint.....
 
Jim M.
Why were the Cadillac Firemist colors excluded from these cars.Was it cost?

What is it that Chevrolet has you working on that you spoke about earlier in another topic a while ago? Long lost VIN# records perhaps?

Seriously,Have you been in touch with a publisher to write a book about all your GM experiences?
You are a living treasured asset to all of us!
Rick

Jeff H 09-10-2002 02:54 PM

Re: Special paint.....
 
Wow, great information Jim. And you thought we were just interested in high performance stuff! LOL! Now it makes us wish there was some source of original documentation( like PHS) for our Chevy's even more. Jim, I was wondering if your group had anything to do with the JL8 4 wheel disc brake cars. I assume no, since it was an RPO, but it did seem to be an oddball process based on Wayne Guinn's information. I have the broadcast sheet with my JL8 but the window sticker would have been great to have too.

Rare_LS6 09-10-2002 04:07 PM

Re: Rare LS6 - restoration to begin - question...?
 
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Definitive proof....Well, I just got off the phone with Dupont Corporate (again)
and finally got the information I've been looking for regarding my ZP3 optioned
LS6 Chevelle. This information might interest others here at the board as well
(see attached chart). Dupont was very helpful in answering my questions that
date back to 1969-70! Others needing specific questions answered by Dupont can
reach Dupont Color information at 1-800-338-7668 (digital operator, press
#3 then #1). This will put you in touch with "Janice" the Dupont Color person
who was very helpful! I just recieved a detailed fax from "Janice", this page
is taken from a Dupont Paint Code book...love to get a copy of this book!

Please see the attached file for a cross reference chart of Dupont paint codes,
Lucite stock numbers, Production codes, and Master Fisher Codes used on Chevrolet
passenger cars (1969).

For my car "926-99568" on the chart clearly states "Daytona Yellow".....




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