Re: 1967 Baldwin Motion Camaro at Auburn
 

Re NICB reports, I also have received several different "originl selling dealer" names on the same car, so, I don't find that unbelievable. I have had to request the info until you get someone who is willing to take the time & interest to do it right. Sad, but true in my experience. Maybe the owners that sold the car at Auburn came up with paperwork, like a bogus NICB report, phoney Motion work orders, etc., and used that to sway Joel. We all know that paperwork doesn't exist on all of his cars, so, sometimes it's got to be put together piece by piece. I am certain this will get ironed out. Hopefully the bad guys will pay an appropriate price. Two things for sure; in my opinion, Joel would never knowingly verify a bogus car, and, because of this, it will now be even harder to get him to verify the real ones. He is a man of integrity and $1500 will not cause him to go against that.

Re: 1967 Baldwin Motion Camaro at Auburn
 

This sounds like a very unfortunate situation. Have you talked to Joel about the new information you have? What does he say about the car now?

Re: 1967 Baldwin Motion Camaro at Auburn
 

I don't know this car and hope all works out well for 'SuperHigh'. First Car dealers did trade vehicles amungst themselves and did go across state lines to get them.

The NICB report may only show the dealer, to which the car was delivered originally, direct from the factory, although the NICB has been able to document some dealer trades.

The window from body tag to consumer sale date in itself does not exclude the car from being a Baldwin Motion or Motion Car.

Just trying to look at the positive side [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Re: 1967 Baldwin Motion Camaro at Auburn
 

Sorry to hear about the car but already had an inckling.Last year when the car was for sale the gentleman selling the car could not get Joel to verify the car.A few weeks ago I put a post about vendor buying.These guys know that the time frame on verifying a car is minimal and that fear of losing a great deal has people in a split decision bind. That's why the car showed up at auction.The guys selling the car knew there was a larger value that could be placed on that car outside the auction.I give you credit for taking a chance,I probably would have done the same in a similar situation.Good luck.

Re: 1967 Baldwin Motion Camaro at Auburn
 

Well closure is near. The folks at Kruse/eBay auctions which held the large auction in Auburn are a class act. They are taking the car back at their expence and going to sell it as a clone and give the proceeds that are left after they take their due commissions out and give the remaining amount to the seller. The reason and how the new letter from Joel came into being, I will not discuss. If any of you guys frequent the classic car auctions, then you know that the Kruse,the Leake, and the Branson auction that Jim and Kathy Cox has are the top of the line. They are at the top for integrity along with the fine people at Russo-Steele and the Barrett-Jackson auctions. In a crazy world where some people try to make a fast buck, it is nice to deal with people who still do business the old fashioned way, with pride and passion for their work.

Re: 1967 Baldwin Motion Camaro at Auburn
 

It's good to hear that people still have pride in their business. I'm glad that everything seems to be working out!

Re: 1967 Baldwin Motion Camaro at Auburn
 

Congrats Dean & the guys are a class act.Does that mean steaks for everybody at the reuion? [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Re: 1967 Baldwin Motion Camaro at Auburn
 

glad it all worked out and another collector wasn't left holding the bag. nice to hear the auction did there part. integrity always wins! it is however, a shame, that there are those who participate in this hobby could give it a black eye. i know maurice would rather have had a baldwin motion car.!

Re: 1967 Baldwin Motion Camaro at Auburn
 

Glad to hear that things worked out for you and Kruse and look forward to seeing the real deal '68 Phase III at the reunion. [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Re: 1967 Baldwin Motion Camaro at Auburn
 

Maurice, Really GLAD everything is going to work out for you. I know you would rather have the Baldwin Motion than go thru all this--BUT at least you will get your Money back. I am VERY THANKFUL to Copolocater who gave me the FIRST chance on my Motion Camaro. Everything was checked out and I have Peace of Mind about the car.. I thought that the price I heard you paid for it was too low so I was alittle worried about it for you. People will do anything and fake paperwork to make the quick big bucks.
See you at the reunion and you will have a great time and relax.
Take care, Mark [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]