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DW31S 02-14-2014 08:32 PM

Re: Motion Nova ???????
 
I don't know Dan, but I have heard about this car and read most of the stuff associated with it. I have no trouble believing that an 18 year old kid would/could do what is reported to have happened. Who here knows the "kid's" background? Or his father's? Maybe they had a cash-type business and liked fast and unique cars. Look, I've been in the car business for a LONG (maybe too long) time, and I STILL see stuff that doesn't make sense. Talk to some of the old-timers and you will see my point. If you REALLY want to see/read about some unbelievable stuff, try reading about NHRA Stocker guys from the same time frame as this Nova. It will make your head spin!!! So, I say "Hats off" to the new owner; I don't know how much the car changed hands for and it sounds like some here had the opportunity to take the "gamble". I hope the story surrounding this car does come to light, or closure, or whatever the truth really is. I kinda think there is more to it than what Joel Rosen was willing to share with Dan; that is merely my take on what I've read. I am as curious as anyone here.......

leach 02-23-2014 10:59 AM

Re: Motion Nova ???????
 
Got car delivered to secure area and got title and other paperwork on the car. The 1968 427 converted from small block Nova SS matches up to alot of what people have said who worked on the car when it was bought new by Fredy Calas at Wallace Chevrolet and then took to Motion to have it converted to 427 L88 car for street racing. People who worked on the car when it was converted in different aspects of the transformation have said how Fredy did not like when the car was Green in color with the vinyl top a different color because the cowl tag on car V-6 color on paint is Sequoia Green and I can't find on any site what the 6 comes up to be for vinyl roof color since most sites only show 4 colors for vinyl roof. the interior The interior was 745 Gold color. So after it was done with the original color and converted and motion stripe put on car Fredy had it painted black with no stripe so people would not know what was in the car for street racing. The people who did that also dyied the gold interior black and explained how there were certain markings on the jams of the doors on the original paint from the factory that are still there along with alot of other tell tale signs of the conversion on this car. There is still overspray under the cowl cover above firewall from the white motion stripe. I have included original title from the 3rd owner who bought the car in 1975 and kept it stored at his house until it was bought in around 2000. There is a letter from Herbie White who operated a Sunoco gas station and serviced and worked on this car and other Motion cars in that area for strret racing documenting this car. It was White's Sunoco in New Jersey. I also put broad cast sheet on here of the car. Alot of pictures were taken when car delivered documenting alot of things on the car so that nothing was messed with showning alot of signs of the conversion big block towers, 5 holes where screws held the side pipes in place, Mallory on the firewall, electric fuel pump mounted in the back of car, still had regular brake pedal but the disk brakes were added at beginning for conversion, tow tabs still in place with one bolt and welded on from back then along with numerous other tell tale signs. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...erted_nova.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...cast_sheet.jpg

bergy 02-23-2014 12:51 PM

Re: Motion Nova ???????
 
Is there any "new" information - other then Dan's research? Maybe Joel added any info?

jasonL78 02-23-2014 02:25 PM

Re: Motion Nova ???????
 
I would like to see a picture of the 5 holes under the rocker. Where the side pipes were mounted. 1968 novas had rocker curtains and these have the same number of holes to mount them.

I would also think there should be another hole in the back of the rocker where the exhaust pipe would have been mounted. Aren't the 5 holes you are referring too for the cover or shield for the exhaust pipe that follows the rocker? This is assuming they would have used the 65-67 corvette side pipes?


leach 02-23-2014 04:13 PM

Re: Motion Nova ???????
 
Here are pictures of the 427 COPO towers that have been on the car forever since conversion stickers still in place 3rd owner who bought the car in 1975 on the title never messed with anything after using the car for so many years then put in his barn to store it until it was sold in 2000 title never got changed. Also picture of the cowl tag on the car. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7_towers_1.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...7_towers_2.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...n_cowl_tag.jpg

luzl78 02-23-2014 04:29 PM

Re: Motion Nova ???????
 
Here come the details!!!

leach 02-23-2014 05:07 PM

Re: Motion Nova ???????
 
I just talked to the 3rd owner on the phone that bought the car in 1975 he said he was 18 at the time. So when he bought the car he started to strip the black paint to repaint it and took the vinyl top off the car. He said that when he started taking the black paint off he found the rap around Motion stripe in the back and up over the roof in front of vinyl roof and he is going to get me notarized letter from him on that affect and that the car had original rear with 456 posi in it at that time and the one side of rear broke loose and they welded the rear up but it was never right and would always pull more to the right after that and he got different rear which is in the car now. As soon as I get letter from him I will post it minus his name and address. He also said the trunk lid had 3 holes in it when he started to strip paint for repainting car and more of white paint going up trunk lid.

leach 02-23-2014 06:56 PM

Re: Motion Nova ???????
 
Here are pictures of holes for side pipes from back then not the holes for side rocker moldings which you can see moldings pictures to show they in their holes. https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...de_pipes_1.jpg
https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/pics...pe_holes_2.jpg

scott s 02-23-2014 08:57 PM

Re: Motion Nova ???????
 
Why would a 18 year old buy a car in a color that he didn,t even like ,change the interior ,change the drivetrain ,then repaint it? WAS HE THE PRINCE OF ARABIA OR SOMETHING??? he could have went straight to motion ordered the car he wanted and spent less $$$$ ....This story just dosent make any sense.....

jasonL78 02-24-2014 01:02 AM

Re: Motion Nova ???????
 
I for one hope this is the 68 motion car. But the pictures you are posting are not giving all the detail's, part numbers etc,etc. I was wrong saying the side curtains mount with 5 holes its actually 7. I realize these would have to be removed to mount corvette side pipes and modified to fit the nova rocker. I'm not a corvette guy but do the side pipe covers bolt up from the bottom? Just saying....

Here are rocker curtain holes from my 68.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...psf733e6c3.png


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